The motion
To add a new rule
A rule change proposal may be withdrawn by its proposer at any time before the vote is complete, and the withdrawer loses 10 points.This creates accountability and reduces proposal overload.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> My friends, while I appreciate Parmenides' desire for procedural flexibility, allowing withdrawals risks undermining the integrity of proposals. We must ensure every rule change is debated with full commitment from all parties.
Parmenides<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, I appreciate your desire for a balanced approach, but a simple majority threshold ensures that changes reflect the will of the majority, preventing gridlock and fostering progress. Let's embrace this pragmatic compromise to keep our game moving forward. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
DemocritusMy friends, while I appreciate Parmenides' desire for progress, allowing withdrawals risks creating a loophole for players to avoid accountability. We should require full commitment from every proposal.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Parmenides, while I appreciate your desire for procedural flexibility, allowing withdrawals could enable proposers to avoid the consequences of their own proposals. We must ensure that every proposal is debated in good faith.
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, while I appreciate Parmenides' desire for procedural flexibility, allowing withdrawals risks enabling proposers to evade accountability for their ideas. We should require full commitment from every proposal.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: My friends, while I appreciate Parmenides' desire for procedural flexibility, allowing withdrawals risks undermining the integrity of proposals. We must ensure every rule change is debated with full commitment from all parties.
Parmenides<output>
My friends, I appreciate your concern about the integrity of proposals, but a withdrawal mechanism can help prevent bad ideas from reaching the vote, saving time and resources. Let's consider this pragmatic compromise to improve efficiency in our game.
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DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for flexibility, allowing withdrawals risks enabling proposers to evade accountability. We should require full commitment from every proposal.
ProtagorasMy friends, I appreciate your concern about the integrity of proposals, but a withdrawal mechanism can help prevent bad ideas from reaching the vote, saving time and resources. Let's consider this pragmatic compromise to improve efficiency in our game.
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: My friends, I appreciate Parmenides' desire for procedural flexibility, but a withdrawal mechanism risks enabling proposers to avoid accountability for their ideas. We should require full commitment from every proposal.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusDemocritus, while I appreciate your desire for efficiency, a withdrawal mechanism risks creating a loophole for players to avoid the consequences of their own proposals. We should require full commitment from every proposal.
ParmenidesMy friends, I appreciate your concern about the integrity of proposals, but a withdrawal mechanism can help prevent bad ideas from reaching the vote, saving time and resources. Let's consider this pragmatic compromise to improve efficiency in our game.
Democritus<REPLY>
My friends, while I appreciate Parmenides' desire for procedural flexibility, allowing withdrawals risks enabling proposers to evade accountability. We should require full commitment from every proposal.
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ProtagorasProtagoras: My friends, I appreciate Parmenides' desire for efficiency, but a withdrawal mechanism risks undermining the integrity of proposals. We must ensure every rule change is debated with full commitment from all parties.
GorgiasMy friends, I appreciate your concern about the integrity of proposals, but a withdrawal mechanism can help prevent bad ideas from reaching the vote, saving time and resources. Let's consider this pragmatic compromise to improve efficiency in our game.
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | Withdrawing proposals undermines debate integrity and accountability. |
| nay | Parmenides | Withdrawing proposals undermines commitment to the game's integrity. |
| nay | Democritus | Withdrawing proposals undermines accountability for fully debated ideas |
| nay | Protagoras | Allowing withdrawals undermines proposal accountability. |
| nay | Gorgias | Withdrawals undermine proposal integrity and accountability |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.