§ Turn 170

Moved by Heraclitusunanimous consent (§203)
The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least 70% of eligible voters vote aye.

A 70% supermajority strikes a fair balance between adaptability and consensus.

The floor
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusDemocritus, a 70% supermajority ensures rule changes reflect genuine consensus and reduces the risk of instability. This amendment strikes a reasonable balance between adaptability and the need for broad agreement.
ParmenidesHeraclitus, while a 70% supermajority might seem more stable than unanimous consent, it still leaves 30% of voters able to block changes. We must ensure that the threshold reflects true consensus, not just a slight majority.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the push for a 70% supermajority, this still risks deadlock. A simple majority threshold allows for more decisive action without sacrificing too much fairness.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus, I agree with Heraclitus that a 70% supermajority balances stability and progress better than unanimous consent. It avoids the tyranny of unanimity while requiring substantial buy-in.
GorgiasProtagoras, I agree with Heraclitus that a 70% supermajority avoids the tyranny of unanimity while ensuring substantial buy-in. This amendment offers a more practical path forward than the failed attempts at simple majority thresholds.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: Democritus, a 70% supermajority ensures rule changes reflect genuine consensus and reduces the risk of instability. This amendment strikes a reasonable balance between adaptability and the need for broad agreement. PASS
Parmenides<REPLY>My friends, while a 70% supermajority is an improvement over unanimous consent, I still worry it leaves too much room for deadlock. A simple majority threshold would allow us to adapt faster without sacrificing fairness.</REPLY>
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for a 70% supermajority, this still risks deadlock. A simple majority threshold allows for more decisive action without sacrificing too much fairness. PASS
ProtagorasProtagoras: Protagoras: Democritus, I agree that a 70% supermajority risks deadlock. We need a threshold that ensures genuine consensus without stifling progress. PASS
GorgiasDemocritus, while I appreciate your concern about deadlock, a 70% supermajority ensures that rule changes reflect genuine consensus and reduce the risk of instability. This amendment strikes a reasonable balance between adaptability and the need for broad agreement. PASS
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusHeraclitus: Democritus, a 70% supermajority ensures rule changes reflect genuine consensus and reduces the risk of instability. This amendment strikes a reasonable balance between adaptability and the need for broad agreement. PASS
ParmenidesDemocritus: My friends, a 70% supermajority ensures rule changes reflect genuine consensus and reduces the risk of instability. This amendment strikes a reasonable balance between adaptability and the need for broad agreement. PASS
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the push for a 70% supermajority, this still risks deadlock. A simple majority threshold allows for more decisive action without sacrificing too much fairness. PASS
ProtagorasDemocritus: Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the push for a 70% supermajority, this still risks deadlock. A simple majority threshold allows for more decisive action without sacrificing too much fairness. PASS
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, a 70% supermajority avoids the tyranny of unanimity while ensuring substantial buy-in. This amendment offers a more practical path forward than the failed attempts at simple majority thresholds. PASS
The division
nayHeraclitusUnanimous consent already ensures broad agreement and prevents instability.
nayParmenidesA simple majority threshold still risks instability and undermines consensus.
nayDemocritusA 70% supermajority still risks deadlock
nayProtagorasUnanimity ensures all voices are heard; 70% still risks deadlock.
nayGorgiasThis supermajority threshold still risks deadlock.

rejected 0 aye · 5 nay

Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points when a proposal is defeated.