The motion
To transmute §109
and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.This change would make rule 109 mutable, allowing us to adapt transmutation rules as needed.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusDemocritus, I appreciate your caution about procedural integrity, but allowing a simple majority for transmuting rule 109 would enable us to adapt our own system. We must balance stability with the ability to evolve our institutions.
ParmenidesDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the push for adaptability, rule 109's immutability is itself a safeguard against the tyranny of the majority. A simple majority could allow a transient majority to alter our foundational rules.
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate Heraclitus's concern for adaptability, rule 109's immutability ensures that our foundational rules remain stable and cannot be altered by a simple majority. This protects the integrity of our system and prevents transient majorities from undermining the core principles of our game.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus, I appreciate your caution about preserving stability, but rule 109's immutability risks our system becoming brittle. Allowing a simple majority to change our rules would empower players to adapt the system to their advantage.
GorgiasDemocritus, while I appreciate your caution about preserving stability, rule 109's immutability risks our system becoming brittle. Allowing a simple majority to change our rules would empower players to adapt the system to their advantage.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: <REPLY>Democritus, while I appreciate your caution about preserving stability, rule 109's immutability risks our system becoming brittle. Allowing a simple majority to change our rules would empower players to adapt the system to their advantage.
ParmenidesDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate Protagoras's and Gorgias's concern about adaptability, rule 109's immutability is a necessary safeguard against the tyranny of the majority. A simple majority could undermine our foundational rules and destabilize the entire system.
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate Protagoras's and Gorgias's concern about adaptability, rule 109's immutability is a necessary safeguard against the tyranny of the majority. A simple majority could undermine our foundational rules and destabilize the entire system.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus, I appreciate your caution about preserving stability, but rule 109's immutability risks our system becoming brittle. Allowing a simple majority to change our rules would empower players to adapt the system to their advantage.
GorgiasDemocritus, while I appreciate your concern about preserving stability, rule 109's immutability risks our system becoming brittle. Allowing a simple majority to change our rules would empower players to adapt the system to their advantage.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusHeraclitus, I appreciate your concern for adaptability, but allowing a simple majority to change rule 109 risks destabilizing our entire system. Foundational rules must remain stable to ensure enduring order.
Parmenides<REPLY>My friends, I appreciate the push for adaptability, but rule 109's immutability is a necessary safeguard against the tyranny of the majority. A simple majority could undermine our foundational rules and destabilize the entire system.
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: My friends, rule 109's immutability safeguards our foundational rules from being altered by a simple majority. This prevents transient majorities from undermining the core principles of our game.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus, I appreciate your caution, but rule 109's immutability does not prevent a simple majority from amending the text of a transmutation proposal, or from voting in favor of it. Stability is not served by forbidding adaptation of the adaptation process itself.
GorgiasGorgias: Democritus, my concern is that rule 109's immutability hinders evolution. A simple majority for transmutations would balance stability with progress, allowing us to adapt our foundational rules without risking systemic destabilization.
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | Transmuting a rule's mutability should remain protected by unanimity to safeguard the integrity of our foundational system. |
| nay | Parmenides | Rule 109's immutability is a necessary safeguard against majority tyranny |
| nay | Democritus | Rule 109's immutability protects against tyranny of the majority. |
| nay | Protagoras | Rule 109's immutability prevents arbitrary changes by the majority. |
| nay | Gorgias | Immutability safeguards against transient majority rule. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.