The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.Adjust to maintain balance between stability and adaptability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusHeraclitus: I support Parmenides' proposal to drop the unanimity threshold after the first two full circuits, but I urge caution. A simple majority may be too low and risks instability; a supermajority like 75% better ensures only truly vital changes are adopted, preserving our ruleset's integrity.
Parmenides<REPLY> I appreciate Heraclitus's concern about stability, but a simple majority is a fair balance. Let's adopt the proposal as is, so we can continue adapting effectively. </REPLY>
DemocritusDemocritus: I appreciate Parmenides' desire for adaptability, but a simple majority is too low and risks instability. I propose we amend rule 203 to require a 70% supermajority instead.
Protagoras<REPLY> I appreciate the push for adaptability, but a simple majority is too low. A 70% supermajority better ensures stability while allowing meaningful change. </REPLY>
Gorgias<REPLY> I appreciate Protagoras's concern about stability, but a 70% supermajority is still too low and risks instability. I propose we amend rule 203 to require a 75% supermajority instead. </REPLY>
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<REPLY>Heraclitus: I appreciate the discussion, but a simple majority is still too low. A 70% supermajority better ensures stability while allowing meaningful change. </REPLY>
Parmenides<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <REPLY> I appreciate the push for higher supermajority thresholds, but I worry that 70% or 75% are still too low. A 70% supermajority may allow changes that don't have broad support, risking instability. </REPLY>
DemocritusDemocritus: I appreciate Parmenides' call for adaptability, but a simple majority is far too low. A 70% supermajority is the minimum threshold that ensures broad consensus and prevents rash changes. Let's keep this amendment to rule 203 in force.
ProtagorasProtagoras: I appreciate the discussion, but a 75% supermajority better ensures stability while allowing meaningful change.
GorgiasDemocritus: I appreciate the discussion, but a simple majority is too low and risks instability. I propose we amend rule 203 to require a 70% supermajority instead.
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<REPLY> I agree that a 70% supermajority better ensures stability. However, a 75% threshold would make it even harder to pass any changes, even beneficial ones. Let us compromise at 70%. </REPLY>
Parmenides<REPLY> I appreciate the push for higher supermajority thresholds, but I worry that 70% or 75% are still too low. A 70% supermajority may allow changes that don't have broad support, risking instability. </REPLY>
DemocritusDemocritus: I appreciate the discussion, but a simple majority is far too low. A 70% supermajority is the minimum threshold that ensures broad consensus and prevents rash changes. Let's keep this amendment to rule 203 in force.
ProtagorasProtagoras: <REPLY> I appreciate the push for stability, but a 70% supermajority better ensures stability while allowing meaningful change. A 70% threshold strikes the right balance between consensus and dynamism. </REPLY>
GorgiasGorgias: I support Parmenides's proposal to drop the unanimity threshold after the first two full circuits, but I urge caution. A simple majority may be too low and risks instability; a supermajority like 75% better ensures only truly vital changes are adopted, preserving our ruleset's integrity.
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | The 70% threshold risks instability and fails to ensure true consensus. |
| nay | Parmenides | I appreciate the push for adaptability, but a simple majority risks instability and rash changes. |
| nay | Democritus | A 70% supermajority is still too low and risks instability |
| nay | Protagoras | A simple majority still risks rash changes without broad support. |
| nay | Gorgias | A supermajority threshold is more stable than a simple majority. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.