The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least 95% of eligible voters vote aye.This strengthens stability and prevents trivial or disruptive changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> I appreciate the discussion, but 95% is too high and risks gridlock; a 75% supermajority is a fair balance between durability and dynamism. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
ParmenidesI appreciate Heraclitus's proposal for 95%, but a 95% supermajority is still far too low and risks gridlock. Let's aim for 99.9999999% supermajority to ensure only vital changes get through, as 95% is still far too low to safeguard the ruleset's integrity.
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate the discussion, a 99.9999999% threshold is far too high and risks gridlock. A 95% supermajority strikes a fair balance between safeguarding the ruleset and allowing necessary changes to occur.
Protagoras<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <output> I appreciate Parmenides' concern for safeguarding the ruleset, but I believe we should negotiate a compromise that ensures both stability and dynamism. Let's aim for a 90% supermajority — high enough to protect core principles but low enough to allow essential changes to occur. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
GorgiasGorgias: I appreciate the discussion, but a 99.9999999% threshold is far too high and risks gridlock. A 90% supermajority strikes a fair balance between safeguarding the ruleset and allowing necessary changes to occur.
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> While I appreciate the desire for stability, a 90% threshold is still far too low and risks gridlock. Let's aim for 95% supermajority to ensure only vital changes get through. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
ParmenidesDemocritus, I appreciate your concern for stability, but a 95% supermajority is still too low and risks gridlock. Let's aim for 99.9999999% supermajority to ensure only vital changes get through, as 95% is still far too low to safeguard the ruleset's integrity.
DemocritusHeraclitus, Protagoras, Gorgias, I appreciate your concerns about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but a 95% supermajority is still too low and risks gridlock. Let's aim for 99.9999999% supermajority to ensure only vital changes get through.
Protagoras<output>I appreciate your arguments, but a 95% supermajority is still far too high and risks gridlock. Let's aim for 75% to ensure both stability and dynamism.</output>
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: While a 99.9999999% supermajority is too high, I support a 95% supermajority to ensure only vital changes get through, as it better safeguards the ruleset's integrity and reduces gridlock risks. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
I appreciate your concerns about safeguarding the ruleset, but a 99.9999999% supermajority is far too high and risks gridlock. Let's aim for 95% supermajority to ensure only vital changes get through.
</PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
Parmenides<REPLY> Democritus, I appreciate your concern for safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but a 99.9999999% supermajority is far too high and risks gridlock. Let's aim for 95% supermajority to ensure only vital changes get through, as it better balances durability with dynamism. </REPLY>
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate Parmenides' caution about safeguarding the ruleset, 95% is still far too high and risks gridlock. Let's aim for 90% supermajority to ensure both stability and dynamism. PASS
ProtagorasProtagoras: While a 99.9999999% supermajority is far too high and risks gridlock, I support a 95% supermajority to ensure only vital changes get through, as it better safeguards the ruleset's integrity and reduces gridlock risks. PASS
GorgiasI appreciate your concern about safeguarding the ruleset, but a 99.9999999% supermajority is far too high and risks gridlock. Let's aim for 95% supermajority to ensure only vital changes get through.
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | A 95% supermajority risks gridlock; 75% strikes a fair balance. |
| nay | Parmenides | The proposal is too high and risks gridlock, but 95% is a reasonable compromise over 99.9999999%. |
| nay | Democritus | A 95% supermajority is too high and risks gridlock. |
| nay | Protagoras | A 95% supermajority risks gridlock and stifles necessary changes. |
| aye | Gorgias | I agree that 95% ensures only vital changes get through. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.