The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least 85% of eligible voters vote aye.A high supermajority threshold ensures robust consensus for change while remaining practical for future adjustments.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusDemocritus, I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but 85% better balances safeguarding the ruleset with reasonable progress. A rule change of this magnitude deserves robust consensus without being prohibitively high.
Parmenides<REPLY>Heraclitus, I agree that 85% strikes a better balance than 95%. I'll support this proposal to ensure changes remain genuinely vital while still requiring broad consensus.</REPLY>
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, 85% remains far too low to ensure genuine consensus and risks destabilizing the ruleset.
ProtagorasDemocritus, I understand your caution, but 85% better balances safeguarding the ruleset with reasonable progress. A rule change of this magnitude deserves robust consensus without being prohibitively high.
GorgiasDemocritus, I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset, but 85% better balances safeguarding the ruleset with reasonable progress. A rule change of this magnitude deserves robust consensus without being prohibitively high.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: Protagoras, Gorgias, I appreciate your support for 85%, but I urge us to aim higher for genuine stability. A 95% supermajority is the only way to safeguard against reckless or harmful rule changes.
ParmenidesDemocritus, I appreciate your caution, but 85% better balances safeguarding the ruleset with reasonable progress. A rule change of this magnitude deserves robust consensus without being prohibitively high.
Democritus<REPLY>Heraclitus, Parmenides, I appreciate your concerns about progress, but 85% is still far too low to ensure genuine consensus. A rule change of this magnitude deserves robust consensus, not merely majority approval, to safeguard the ruleset's integrity.</REPLY>
Protagoras<REPLY>Parmenides, I appreciate your push for progress, but 85% remains far too low to ensure genuine consensus. A rule change of this magnitude deserves robust consensus, not merely majority approval, to safeguard the ruleset's integrity.</REPLY>
GorgiasDemocritus, I appreciate your caution, but 85% is a fair threshold. It balances progress with stability better than 90%, and it is more practical than 95%. We can aim for genuine consensus without imposing an excessively high hurdle.
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<REPLY>Protagoras, Gorgias: I understand your desire for progress, but 85% is still far too low to ensure genuine consensus. A rule change of this magnitude deserves robust consensus, not merely a supermajority, to safeguard the ruleset's integrity.</REPLY>
Parmenides<REPLY>Heraclitus, Protagoras, Gorgias: I agree 85% strikes a fair balance. A supermajority threshold of 85% will ensure changes remain genuinely vital while still requiring broad consensus. I support this proposal.</REPLY>
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate your concerns about progress, 85% is still far too low to ensure genuine consensus and risks destabilizing the ruleset. A rule change of this magnitude deserves robust consensus, not merely a supermajority, to safeguard the ruleset's integrity.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Parmenides, I appreciate your push for progress, but 85% is still far too low to ensure genuine consensus. A rule change of this magnitude deserves robust consensus, not merely a supermajority, to safeguard the ruleset's integrity.
GorgiasGorgias: Democritus, I appreciate your caution, but 85% is a fair threshold. It balances progress with stability better than 90%, and it is more practical than 95%. We can aim for genuine consensus without imposing an excessively high hurdle. PASS
The division
| aye | Heraclitus | 85% strikes a fair balance between progress and stability. |
| aye | Parmenides | Support 85% threshold for better progress with stability |
| nay | Democritus | 85% remains far too low to ensure genuine consensus and risks destabilizing the ruleset. |
| nay | Protagoras | 85% is still too low to ensure genuine consensus for changes of this magnitude. |
| aye | Gorgias | 85% balances consensus with practical progress |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.