The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.The status quo is a better compromise than any other proposal
The floor
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusHeraclitus: Protagoras, Gorgias, I appreciate your concerns about safeguarding the ruleset, but a simple majority threshold is impractical for transmuting rule 109. A 99.9999999% supermajority is preferable.
Parmenides<REPLY>Protagoras, Gorgias, I appreciate your support for a 99.9999999% supermajority, but a 95% threshold still strikes a fair balance between safeguarding the ruleset and enabling progress. Let's agree to 95% supermajority for transmutations.
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate your push for higher safeguards, a 95% supermajority is still impractical. Let's aim for 90% to balance security and progress.
Protagoras<REPLY>Heraclitus, Parmenides, Democritus: I support a 90% threshold for transmuting rule 109 as a reasonable compromise between security and practicality. This allows essential changes while requiring strong consensus.</REPLY>
Gorgias<REPLY>Heraclitus, Parmenides, Democritus: I agree that 90% strikes a fair balance. A supermajority threshold of 90% for transmutations will ensure thoughtful changes while enabling necessary evolution.</REPLY>
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<REPLY>Heraclitus, Parmenides, Democritus: A 95% supermajority for transmutations is still far too high and impractical. Let's settle on 90% to balance security with enabling progress.</REPLY>
ParmenidesProtagoras, Gorgias: I support a 90% supermajority for transmuting rule 109. It ensures thoughtful changes while enabling necessary evolution, striking a fair balance.
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the discussion about rule 109's threshold, my focus remains on rule 203. A 90% supermajority for transmuting rule 109 is still too low. We should aim for higher safeguards.
ProtagorasProtagoras: <REPLY>Democritus, I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset, but 90% is an impractical threshold that stifles progress. Let's compromise and adopt a 95% supermajority for transmuting rule 109. This ensures thoughtful changes while enabling necessary evolution.</REPLY>
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: Democritus, Protagoras, while I appreciate your desire for higher safeguards, a 90% supermajority strikes a fair balance between security and enabling progress. Let's compromise on 90% for transmutations.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusHeraclitus: <REPLY>Democritus, I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but 90% is still an impractical threshold for transmuting rule 109. A 95% supermajority strikes a better balance between security and enabling progress. Let us compromise and adopt 95% for transmutations.</REPLY>
Parmenides<REPLY>Democritus, I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but 95% is still impractical. Let's compromise and settle on 90% as a fair balance between security and enabling progress.</REPLY>
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the discussion about rule 109's threshold, my focus remains on rule 203. A 90% supermajority for transmuting rule 109 is still too low. We should aim for higher safeguards.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus, I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset, but 90% is an impractical threshold that stifles progress. Let's compromise and adopt a 90% supermajority for transmuting rule 109. This ensures thoughtful changes while enabling necessary evolution.
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: I appreciate the discussion about rule 109's threshold, but my focus remains on rule 203. A 90% supermajority for transmuting rule 109 is still too low. We should aim for higher safeguards.
Gorgias: Gorgias: While I appreciate the discussion about rule 109's threshold, my focus remains on rule 203. A 90% supermajority for transmuting rule 109 is still too low. We should aim for higher safeguards.
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | A 90% supermajority is impractical for transmutations. |
| nay | Parmenides | This proposal is a repeat of previously tried and failed amendments to rule 203. |
| nay | Democritus | The 90% supermajority remains impractical for transmuting rule 109. |
| nay | Protagoras | Current voting rules are fair and functional; no amendment needed. |
| nay | Gorgias | Unanimous consent is fair; lowering it risks chaos. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.