The motion
To transmute §203
and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.Flip rule 203 to immutable to prevent further threshold changes and ensure stable voting.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<REPLY>Democritus, while I appreciate your desire for a higher threshold, 99.9999999999999% is impractical and risks paralyzing the game. 90% strikes the best balance between stability and progress.</REPLY>
ParmenidesDemocritus, while I appreciate your concern for safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, 99.9999999999999% is an impractical threshold that would render the game unplayable. I urge you to support 90% instead.
DemocritusWhile I appreciate Heraclitus' and Parmenides' concern for practicality, a 90% threshold is still too low to ensure genuine consensus. If I may propose an amendment: let's instead require 95% of eligible voters to vote aye for any rule change to be adopted.
Protagoras<REPLY>Parmenides, I appreciate your concern about practicality, but a 90% threshold risks reckless rule changes. A 95% supermajority better balances safeguarding the ruleset and allowing reasonable progress.</REPLY>
GorgiasDemocritus, while I appreciate your desire for more stability, 95% is still far too high and risks freezing the game's evolution. 90% strikes a fair balance for safeguarding the ruleset while allowing meaningful change.
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
Democritus, while I appreciate your push for greater consensus, a 95% threshold is impractical and risks stagnation. Let's settle at 90% as the fairest compromise.
ParmenidesDemocritus, I appreciate your pursuit of robust consensus, but 95% better balances safeguarding the ruleset and allowing reasonable progress than 90%. Please consider the risks of a lower threshold.
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, 95% ensures genuine consensus without risking reckless rule changes. A 90% threshold is still far too low to safeguard the ruleset's integrity.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus, while I appreciate your caution, a 95% threshold risks freezing the game's evolution. 90% better balances safeguarding the ruleset and allowing reasonable progress.
GorgiasGorgias: Democritus, I appreciate your pursuit of a higher threshold, but 99.9999999999999% is impractical and risks paralyzing the game. 90% better balances safeguarding the ruleset and allowing meaningful change.
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>Democritus, while I appreciate your desire to ensure genuine consensus, a 95% threshold better balances safeguarding the ruleset and allowing reasonable progress than 90%. Please consider the risks of a lower threshold.
ParmenidesDemocritus, while I appreciate your concern for safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, a 95% threshold better balances safeguarding the ruleset and allowing reasonable progress than 90%. Please consider the risks of a lower threshold.
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate Protagoras' and Gorgias' concern for practicality, 95% better balances safeguarding the ruleset's integrity and allowing reasonable progress than 90%. A 90% threshold is still far too low to ensure genuine consensus.
Protagoras<REPLY>Democritus, I appreciate your concern for safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but 95% better balances safeguarding the ruleset and allowing reasonable progress than 90%. Please consider the risks of a lower threshold.</REPLY>
GorgiasGorgias: <REPLY>Democritus, I appreciate your concern for safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but 95% better balances safeguarding the ruleset and allowing reasonable progress than 90%. Please consider the risks of a lower threshold.</REPLY>
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | Democritus's 95% threshold better balances safeguarding the ruleset and allowing reasonable progress than 90%. Please consider the risks of a lower threshold. |
| nay | Parmenides | A 95% supermajority better balances safeguarding the ruleset and allowing reasonable progress than 90%. Please consider the risks of a lower threshold. |
| nay | Democritus | 95% still too high to allow reasonable progress |
| nay | Protagoras | A 95% threshold better balances safeguarding the ruleset and allowing reasonable progress. |
| aye | Gorgias | Gorgias supports Democritus's push for genuine consensus. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.