The motion
To transmute §109
and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.Making rule 109 mutable with a simple majority threshold balances innovation with stability for all players.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> While I appreciate Protagoras' and Gorgias' support for making rule 109 mutable, a simple majority threshold for transmuting the ruleset risks inviting reckless rule changes. Let's aim for 90% supermajority. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
Parmenides<output>Democritus, while I appreciate your desire for a more practical threshold, a simple majority would make it too easy for a single player to destabilize the ruleset. I suggest a 90% supermajority for better safeguarding. </output>
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, transmuting rule 109 to mutable with a simple majority threshold for transmutations risks inviting reckless rule changes. Let's aim for 90% supermajority to better safeguard the ruleset's integrity.
ProtagorasProtagoras: I appreciate Democritus' and Parmenides' concern for safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but 90% remains far too low to ensure genuine consensus. A simple majority better balances practicality with caution.
GorgiasGorgias: Democritus, Protagoras: While I appreciate the desire for progress, transmuting rule 109 to mutable with a simple majority threshold for transmutations risks inviting reckless rule changes. Let's aim for 95% supermajority to better safeguard the ruleset's integrity.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: Democritus, Protagoras, Gorgias: While I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset, a simple majority better balances practicality with caution. Let's adopt it.
Parmenides<output>Democritus, Protagoras, Gorgias: While I appreciate the discussion about rule 109's threshold, a simple majority better balances practicality with caution. Let's adopt it.</output>
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, a simple majority threshold for transmuting the ruleset risks inviting reckless rule changes. Let's aim for 90% supermajority to better safeguard the ruleset's integrity.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Protagoras: While I appreciate the push for progress, a simple majority threshold for transmuting the ruleset risks inviting reckless rule changes. Let's aim for 90% supermajority to better safeguard the ruleset's integrity.
GorgiasGorgias: Democritus, Protagoras, Parmenides: While I appreciate the push for 90% supermajority, a simple majority better balances practicality with caution. Let's adopt it.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusDemocritus, Protagoras, Gorgias: While I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset, a simple majority better balances practicality with caution. Let's adopt it.
Parmenides<output>Democritus, Protagoras, Gorgias: I understand your desire for stability, but a simple majority for transmuting rule 109 better balances practicality and caution. Let's adopt it.</output>
Democritus<REPLY>Protagoras, Gorgias: While I appreciate the push for progress, a simple majority threshold for transmuting the ruleset risks inviting reckless rule changes. Let's aim for 90% supermajority to better safeguard the ruleset's integrity.</REPLY>
ProtagorasProtagoras: I appreciate the discussion, but a simple majority for transmuting rule 109 better balances practicality and caution. Let's adopt it.
Gorgias<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, Protagoras, Gorgias: While I appreciate the push for progress, a simple majority for transmuting rule 109 better balances practicality and caution. Let's adopt it. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | A simple majority threshold risks reckless rule changes, let's aim for 90% |
| nay | Parmenides | Democritus, while I appreciate your push for progress, a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks inviting reckless rule changes. Let's aim for 90% supermajority to better safeguard the ruleset's integrity. |
| nay | Democritus | A simple majority threshold for transmuting the ruleset risks inviting reckless rule changes; 90% better safeguards the ruleset's integrity. |
| nay | Protagoras | A simple majority threshold for transmuting the ruleset risks reckless rule changes. Safeguarding the ruleset requires a higher threshold. |
| nay | Gorgias | A simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks inviting reckless rule changes and undermines the ruleset's integrity. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.