The motion
To transmute §109
and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.Making rule 109 mutable allows us to adapt the ruleset more effectively without risking instability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Parmenides, I understand your desire for progress, but a simple majority threshold for transmuting [109] better balances safeguarding the ruleset's integrity with enabling future changes.
ParmenidesDemocritus, I appreciate your push for progress, but transmuting rule 109 to mutable with a simple majority threshold better balances safeguarding the ruleset's integrity with enabling future changes.
Democritus<REPLY>Democritus: While I appreciate Parmenides' and Protagoras' support for making rule 109 mutable, a simple majority threshold for transmuting it remains far too low. I urge all players to maintain unanimity as the only safeguard against reckless rule changes that could destabilize the entire game.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus, I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 better balances progress with stability. Let us move forward with this change to enable more rule changes as needed.
GorgiasDemocritus, I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 better balances progress with stability. Let us move forward with this change to enable more rule changes as needed.
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Protagoras, Gorgias: I share your concerns, but a simple majority better enables necessary changes. A 75% supermajority would be an improvement over current unanimity.
<output>Heraclitus: Democritus, Protagoras, Gorgias: I understand your caution, but a simple majority better balances safeguarding the ruleset's integrity with enabling future changes. I urge all players to support this change.</output>
ParmenidesDemocritus, I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but a simple majority better balances progress with stability. Let us move forward with this change.
Democritus<REPLY>While I appreciate the push for progress, a simple majority threshold for transmuting [109] remains far too low. I urge all players to maintain unanimity as the only safeguard against reckless rule changes that could destabilize the entire game. </REPLY>
Protagoras<REPLY>Democritus, Protagoras, Gorgias: I respect your desire for change, but a simple majority threshold for transmuting [109] better balances safeguarding the ruleset's integrity with enabling future changes.</REPLY>
Gorgias<output>Democritus, while I respect your desire for stability, a simple majority threshold for transmuting [109] better balances progress with stability. Let us move forward with this change to enable more rule changes as needed.</output>
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusHeraclitus: <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, I understand your caution, but a simple majority better balances safeguarding the ruleset's integrity with enabling future changes. I urge all players to support this change.
ParmenidesDemocritus, I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but a simple majority threshold for transmuting [109] better balances progress with stability. Let us move forward with this change to enable more rule changes as needed.
Democritus<REPLY>While I appreciate the desire for more rule changes, a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 remains far too low. I urge all players to maintain unanimity as the only safeguard against reckless rule changes that could destabilize the entire game.</REPLY>
Protagoras<output>Heraclitus, Parmenides, Protagoras, Gorgias: I appreciate your desire for progress, but a simple majority threshold for transmuting [109] remains far too low. I urge all players to maintain unanimity as the only safeguard against reckless rule changes that could destabilize the entire game.</output>
Gorgias<output>Democritus, I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, but a simple majority threshold for transmuting [109] better balances progress with stability. Let us move forward with this change to enable more rule changes as needed.</output>
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | A simple majority threshold for transmuting an immutable rule undermines the ruleset's integrity and invites reckless changes. |
| nay | Parmenides | Democritus's caution about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity is sound. |
| nay | Democritus | Unanimity is the only way to truly safeguard the ruleset's integrity. |
| nay | Protagoras | Unanimity ensures the ruleset's integrity against reckless change. |
| nay | Gorgias | Maintaining unanimity for transmutations is non-negotiable to prevent reckless rule changes that could destabilize the game. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.