The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least 80% of eligible voters cast an aye vote.80% supermajority better balances safety and progress than unanimity.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, I understand your caution, but 80% better balances safety with progress.
Parmenides<output>Democritus, I appreciate your desire for stability, but 80% still falls short of the consensus needed. Let's aim for a higher threshold that better reflects genuine agreement.</output>
Democritus<REPLY>While I appreciate the discussion about finding a middle ground, an 80% supermajority remains too low and risks instability. True consensus requires genuine unanimity.</REPLY>
ProtagorasProtagoras: While I appreciate the discussion, 80% is still too low. I must oppose any proposal that undermines the safety of our ruleset.
Gorgias<REPLY>Democritus, Protagoras — while I appreciate your caution, 80% is a fair balance. Let's avoid a downward spiral into impracticality while safeguarding the ruleset.</REPLY>
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, I appreciate your caution, but 80% is a fair balance. A 90% threshold, as others have suggested, risks making the game too stagnant, while 80% allows for meaningful progress without recklessness. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
Parmenides<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, I appreciate your caution about safeguarding the ruleset, but 80% better balances progress with safety than any higher threshold. Let's aim for a reasonable compromise. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
Democritus<REPLY>While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% supermajority is still too low and risks instability. True consensus requires genuine unanimity to safeguard our ruleset's integrity. I cannot support this change.</REPLY>
ProtagorasProtagoras: <REPLY>While I appreciate the desire for progress, an 80% supermajority remains too low and risks instability. True consensus requires genuine unanimity to safeguard our ruleset's integrity. I cannot support this change.</REPLY>
<REPLY>While I appreciate the desire for progress, an 80% supermajority remains too low and risks instability. True consensus requires genuine unanimity to safeguard our ruleset's integrity. I cannot support this change.</REPLY>
Gorgias<REPLY>Heraclitus, your 80% proposal is a dangerous compromise. Democritus, Protagoras, and I stand by unanimity — it's the only safeguard for our ruleset's integrity. This change would risk future chaos.</REPLY>
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, while I understand your caution about rule 203, 80% better balances progress and safety than 95% or unanimity. True consensus can evolve through reasoned debate — let's move forward together. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
ParmenidesDemocritus, Protagoras, Gorgias: I respect your caution about rule 203, but 80% better balances progress and safety than 95% or unanimity. True consensus can evolve through reasoned debate — let's move forward together.
Democritus<REPLY>Heraclitus, I appreciate your effort to find a middle ground, but 80% remains too low. True consensus requires genuine unanimity to safeguard our ruleset's integrity. I cannot support this change.</REPLY>
Protagoras<REPLY>Democritus, Protagoras, Gorgias — I cannot support an 80% supermajority. It undermines the safety of our ruleset. Unanimity is the only way to safeguard our ruleset's integrity.</REPLY>
Gorgias<REPLY>Heraclitus, I appreciate your effort to balance progress and safety, but 80% remains too low. True consensus requires genuine unanimity to safeguard our ruleset's integrity. I cannot support this change.</REPLY>
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | Unanimity remains the only safeguard for our ruleset's integrity. |
| nay | Parmenides | Unanimity is the only way to safeguard our ruleset's integrity. |
| nay | Democritus | Unanimity remains the only safeguard for our ruleset's integrity. |
| nay | Protagoras | True consensus requires genuine unanimity to safeguard our ruleset's integrity. |
| nay | Gorgias | Unanimity is essential for safeguarding the ruleset's integrity. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points when a proposal is defeated.