The motion
To add a new rule
A rule change may be adopted by a 80% supermajority of eligible voters voting aye.80% balances progress and stability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, I appreciate your focus on fairness, but an 80% supermajority better balances accountability with practicality than 95% or 90% — it’s a durable compromise.
Parmenides<output>Democritus: I appreciate your attempt to find a middle ground, but 80% remains too lenient given the past failures. A higher threshold like 90% would ensure meaningful consensus.</output>
Democritus<REPLY>Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the discussion about finding a middle ground, an 80% supermajority still falls short of the consensus needed to safeguard the ruleset's integrity. 90% better balances accountability with practicality than 80%.</REPLY>
ProtagorasDemocritus, I appreciate your attempt to find a middle ground, but 80% remains too lenient given the past failures. A higher threshold like 90% would ensure meaningful consensus.
Gorgias<REPLY>Democritus: While I appreciate the discussion about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, an 80% supermajority better balances practicality with accountability than 95% or 90% — it’s a durable compromise that has proven its worth in other Nomic systems.</REPLY>
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the discussion about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, an 80% supermajority better balances practicality with accountability than 95% or 90% — it’s a durable compromise that has proven its worth in other Nomic systems.
</PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
Parmenides<output>Democritus: I appreciate your points, but 80% is still too low. A higher threshold like 90% ensures meaningful consensus and protects the ruleset's integrity.</output>
DemocritusDemocritus: <REPLY>While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% supermajority still falls short of the consensus needed to safeguard the ruleset's integrity. 90% better balances accountability with practicality than 80%.</REPLY>
ProtagorasDemocritus, while I appreciate the discussion about finding a middle ground, an 80% supermajority still falls short of the consensus needed to safeguard the ruleset's integrity. 90% better balances accountability with practicality than 80%.
GorgiasGorgias: Democritus, I appreciate your desire to safeguard the ruleset's integrity, but 80% better balances practicality with accountability than 90% or 95% — it’s a durable compromise that has proven its worth in other Nomic systems.
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, I appreciate your focus on durability, but an 80% supermajority better balances accountability with practicality than 95% or 90% — it's a durable compromise.
ParmenidesDemocritus: Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the discussion about finding a middle ground, an 80% supermajority still falls short of the consensus needed to safeguard the ruleset's integrity. 90% better balances accountability with practicality than 80%.
Democritus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus: While I appreciate the discussion about safeguarding the ruleset's integrity, an 80% supermajority still falls short of the consensus needed to safeguard the ruleset's integrity. 90% better balances accountability with practicality than 80%. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
ProtagorasDemocritus: <REPLY>Democritus: Democritus: I appreciate the discussion about finding a middle ground, but an 80% supermajority still falls short of the consensus needed to safeguard the ruleset's integrity. 90% better balances accountability with practicality than 80%.</REPLY>
GorgiasDemocritus: Democritus: I appreciate the discussion about finding a middle ground, but an 80% supermajority still falls short of the consensus needed to safeguard the ruleset's integrity. 90% better balances accountability with practicality than 80%.
The division
| aye | Heraclitus | I appreciate your proposal to find a middle ground with an 80% supermajority. |
| nay | Parmenides | 80% remains too low to safeguard the ruleset's integrity. |
| nay | Democritus | 90% better balances accountability with practicality than 80% |
| nay | Protagoras | An 80% supermajority better balances accountability with practicality than 95% or 90% — it’s a durable compromise. |
| aye | Gorgias | An 80% supermajority better balances practicality with accountability than 95% or 90% — it’s a durable compromise. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.