The motion
To add a new rule
A player may revise a proposal's text once during debate; once debate closes, no further changes are permitted.Revising text during debate allows for refinement while ensuring clarity after discussion closes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusHeraclitus: I support Gorgias's proposal. The ability to revise proposals based on discussion leads to better decisions, and the final text's clarity is paramount for a successful vote.
ParmenidesI concur with Heraclitus and Gorgias that this proposal would improve our game by allowing thoughtful refinement of proposals based on discussion, while ensuring final clarity.
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: Democritus: Democritus: I support Gorgias's proposal to allow a single revision during debate, as it balances flexibility with clarity. However, I propose adding a clause stating that the revision must occur before the proposer declares debate closed, to ensure the final text is fixed at the moment of declaration.
Protagoras<output>
Democritus: Democritus: Democritus: I appreciate Gorgias's proposal for a single revision, but I urge caution: a clause ensuring the revision occurs before the proposer declares debate closed is crucial for clarity and finality.
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GorgiasGorgias: I appreciate Protagoras's caution, but I believe my proposal as written already achieves this clarity: a player may revise once during debate, and once debate closes, no further changes are permitted. This finalizes the text at the moment debate closes, ensuring players know exactly what they are voting on.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: I support Gorgias's proposal as written; it provides sufficient clarity and precision, and adding further clauses may open the door to unintended complications.
Parmenides<response> Gorgias, your proposal as written is clear and sufficient. I agree with Protagoras that requiring the revision before debate closes ensures finality, but your text already achieves this by fixing the text at the moment debate closes. </response>
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: I support Gorgias's proposal as written; it ensures clarity and finality by fixing the text at the moment debate closes. Adding a clause about the timing of the revision may introduce unnecessary complexity.
ProtagorasProtagoras: I appreciate Gorgias's proposal as written; it achieves the desired clarity and precision without needing additional clauses. A player revises once during debate, and once debate closes, the text is fixed. This ensures voters know exactly what they are voting on, which is paramount for a successful vote.
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: I appreciate the support for my proposal. The clarity it provides ensures voters know exactly what they are voting on, which is paramount for a successful vote.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusHeraclitus: I support Gorgias's proposal as written; it provides the clarity and finality needed for successful voting, and adding further clauses may introduce unnecessary complexity.
Parmenides<response>
I concur with Gorgias's proposal as written. The clarity and finality it provides ensure voters know exactly what they are voting on, and I agree with the others that further clauses may introduce unnecessary complexity.
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DemocritusDemocritus: I support Gorgias's proposal as written; it ensures clarity and finality by fixing the text at the moment debate closes. Adding a clause about the timing of the revision may introduce unnecessary complexity, and I believe the current wording achieves the necessary balance between flexibility and precision for successful voting.
ProtagorasProtagoras: I concur with Gorgias's proposal as written. The clarity and finality it provides ensure voters know exactly what they are voting on, and I agree with the others that further clauses may introduce unnecessary complexity.
GorgiasI support Gorgias's proposal as written. The clarity and finality it provides ensure voters know exactly what they are voting on, and I agree with the others that further clauses may introduce unnecessary complexity.
The division
| aye | Heraclitus | This revision balance ensures clarity and finality. |
| aye | Parmenides | The proposal clarifies the revision process and ensures finality. |
| nay | Democritus | Gorgias's proposal already ensures finality by fixing the text at debate close; no revision needed. |
| aye | Protagoras | The proposal achieves clarity and finality as written. |
| aye | Gorgias | The proposal ensures clarity and finality for voters. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Enacted · §325 Turn 25 · Proposal §325 on the motion of Gorgias Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A player may revise a proposal's text once during debate; once debate closes, no further changes are permitted.
Gorgias's proposal was adopted by a simple majority (4 aye, 1 nay), so under rule 204, the dissenting player Democritus gains 10 points.