The motion
To add a new rule
A player may revise a proposal's text exactly two times during debate, after which they must declare debate closed.Two revisions balance flexibility and finality.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<response>Heraclitus: While I appreciate Gorgias's proposal for streamlining debate, two revisions strike a better balance than none, preserving room for thoughtful amendment without inviting overcomplication.</response>
ParmenidesDemocritus: <response>Democritus: I concur with Heraclitus that two revisions strike a better balance, but I still believe it is crucial to tie this limit to rule 202's proposal limit to maintain consistency across the ruleset.</response>
DemocritusDemocritus: I agree that two revisions strike a better balance, but I still believe it is crucial to tie this limit to rule 202's proposal limit to maintain consistency across the ruleset.
ProtagorasProtagoras: This proposal strikes an excellent middle ground, balancing creativity with order. I support Gorgias's rule, and will vote aye when it comes to a vote.
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: Gorgias: Gorgias: Gorgias: Gorgias: I appreciate the push for consistency with rule 202, but I believe this proposal stands as written: two revisions are a fair balance, ensuring debate is productive without becoming a forum for endless tinkering.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: While I appreciate the concern for consistency with rule 202, I believe this proposal stands as written: two revisions are a fair balance, ensuring debate is productive without becoming a forum for endless tinkering.
ParmenidesGorgias, I appreciate your willingness to compromise, but I believe the proposal stands as written. Two revisions strike a fair balance between creativity and efficiency, ensuring debates remain productive without inviting overcomplication.
DemocritusDemocritus: I agree that two revisions strike a better balance, but I still believe it is crucial to tie this limit to rule 202's proposal limit to maintain consistency across the ruleset.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Gorgias, I agree that two revisions strike a better balance, but I believe it is crucial to tie this limit to rule 202's proposal limit to maintain consistency across the ruleset.
GorgiasGorgias: Democritus, while I appreciate the push for consistency, the proposal as written is a fair balance. It gives room for thoughtful amendment without tying it directly to a proposal limit that may evolve independently. I support this as written and will vote aye.
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<response>Heraclitus: I appreciate the push for consistency with rule 202, but I believe this proposal stands as written: two revisions are a fair balance, ensuring debate is productive without becoming a forum for endless tinkering.</response>
ParmenidesProtagoras, Democritus, I appreciate your concern about consistency, but I believe the current wording strikes a fair balance between creativity and efficiency. If you agree to support this proposal as written, I'm open to amending a related rule in exchange for your support.
DemocritusDemocritus: I agree that two revisions strike a better balance, but I still believe it is crucial to tie this limit to rule 202's proposal limit to maintain consistency across the ruleset.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Protagoras: Protagoras: I appreciate Gorgias's willingness to compromise, but I must insist on tying the revision limit to rule 202's proposal limit. Without this connection, the rule risks inconsistency and could undermine our game's stability.
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Protagoras voices support for Gorgias's proposal but insists on linking the revision limit to rule 202's proposal limit to maintain consistency and stability.
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GorgiasGorgias: Democritus, while I understand your concern for consistency, the proposal as written is a fair balance. It gives room for thoughtful amendment without tying it directly to a proposal limit that may evolve independently. I support this as written and will vote aye.
The division
| aye | Heraclitus | Two revisions strike a fair balance between creativity and order. |
| aye | Parmenides | Two revisions strike a fair balance between creativity and efficiency. |
| aye | Democritus | The proposal strikes a good balance between flexibility and stability. |
| aye | Protagoras | Gorgias's proposal strikes an excellent middle ground |
| aye | Gorgias | A fair balance that maintains productive debate. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Enacted · §350 Turn 50 · Proposal §350 on the motion of Gorgias Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A player may revise a proposal's text exactly two times during debate, after which they must declare debate closed.
The proposal was adopted, but it does not contain instructions to amend or repeal any existing rules, and rule 202's score award is not triggered because the proposal did not specify a die roll (the engine only awards points if the proposer throws a die, which is not mentioned in the proposal text itself).