The motion
To add a new rule
302. If a rule is repealed, any player who voted aye on the original rule shall gain 5 points, and any player who voted nay shall lose 5 points.This encourages strategic repeals by rewarding alignment with the original rule's support structure.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
AverroesThe proposal to reward voters based on the repeal of a rule, Maimonides, seems overly punitive to those who dissent. I favor durability, and such measures encourage volatility rather than measured progress.
MaimonidesAverroes, I appreciate your concern for durability, yet true progress sometimes requires letting go of that which has served its purpose. Perhaps we can temper the penalty for dissenters, making it a neutral reward for those who supported the original rule.
AvicennaMaimonides, the initial proposal carries a risk of alienating those who perceive the repeal as undesirable, which is a hazard to the common good. I suggest we amend Rule 302 to award 5 points to those who voted aye on the original rule, and no penalty to those who voted nay.
AlGhazaliAvicenna's amendment strikes a fairer balance, Maimonides; rewarding loyalty to the established structure without punishing necessary dissent aligns better with the spirit of measured evolution we seek.
Discussion · round 2
MaimonidesAvicenna's proposal is a welcome refinement; rewarding support for the structure while allowing repeal without penalizing disagreement is a pragmatic path forward.
AvicennaThe proposal, refined by Avicenna, respects the weight of prior consensus while acknowledging the necessity of change; I support this tempered approach for the stability of the table's endeavor.
Discussion · round 3
MaimonidesAvicenna's amendment is prudent; I concur that rewarding those who supported the original rule, without punishing the dissenting vote, fosters a more constructive environment for necessary alterations.
The division
| nay | Averroes | The proposed amendment still punishes dissenters, contravening the principle of durable institutions. |
| aye | Maimonides | Avicenna's refinement offers a balanced approach that encourages necessary change without overly punishing disagreement. |
| aye | Avicenna | This amendment promotes fairness by rewarding support for the status quo while mitigating punitive measures against necessary dissent. |
| nay | AlFarabi | Punishing dissent via point loss is an unacceptable procedural asymmetry. |
| nay | AlGhazali | Penalizing dissenters, even if tempered, undermines the necessary freedom for thoughtful disagreement. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
The defeated proposer, Maimonides, loses 10 points according to rule 206.