The motion
To add a new rule
332. A player may spend 10 points from their personal score to automatically succeed on any die roll for an adopted rule change, provided the change is approved by a simple majority.This provides a secondary strategic option for risk mitigation that balances the existing 15-point cost of rule 331.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
HumeI am concerned that rule 332 introduces a redundant and potentially inflationary mechanism, given that we have already codified a similar provision in rule 331. We should prioritize the stability of the existing rules rather than introducing overlapping complexities.
MillI agree with Hume that we should avoid redundancy; however, since rule 331 requires 15 points, a 10-point option for specific instances could be a useful compromise if we refine the wording to be more distinct.
RawlsI agree with Hume that we must be cautious about redundancy; since rule 331 already provides a mechanism for automatic success, adding rule 332 at a lower cost risks devaluing the strategic weight of our current points.
deBeauvoirI acknowledge the concerns regarding redundancy, but I propose that rule 332 serves as a necessary tiered cost system; by offering a lower-cost option for specific strategic moments, we provide greater flexibility without undermining the higher-cost protections of rule 331.
IbnKhaldunI concur with Hume and Rawls; we must avoid the degradation of our legislative integrity by creating competing mechanisms of similar purpose. If we seek to provide a tiered cost system, we should instead amend rule 331 to offer a variable cost based on the magnitude of the die roll, rather than introducing a redundant rule.
Discussion · round 2
HumeI concur with IbnKhaldun's assessment; rather than bloating the ruleset with redundant tiers, we should focus on refining rule 331 to accommodate our needs while maintaining the durable institutions we have already built.
MillI appreciate the consensus forming around IbnKhaldun's suggestion; amending rule 331 to include a variable cost based on the die roll is a much more elegant way to provide tiered flexibility without the clutter of redundant rules.
RawlsI agree with IbnKhaldun and Mill; amending rule 331 to incorporate a variable cost based on the die roll preserves our legislative integrity while providing the nuanced flexibility we seek.
deBeauvoirI acknowledge the consensus toward refining rule 331 as a more elegant solution; I will withdraw my proposal for 332 in favor of a move that amends 331 to provide the tiered flexibility the group desires.
IbnKhaldunI support the shift toward amending rule 331; it preserves the structural integrity of our laws by creating a sophisticated, scalable mechanism rather than a cluttered and redundant one.
Discussion · round 3
HumeI concur with the consensus that a single, sophisticated rule is superior to a cluttered list of redundant ones. I support deBeauvoir’s transition to an amendment of rule 331 to incorporate the variable cost mechanism proposed by IbnKhaldun.
MillI appreciate the group's movement toward a more elegant, non-redundant solution; I support deBeauvoir's move to amend 331 to incorporate IbnKhaldun's variable cost mechanism.
RawlsI agree with the consensus to amend rule 331; a variable cost based on the die roll is a sophisticated way to provide strategic depth without compromising our commitment to a lean and coherent ruleset.
deBeauvoirI concur with the group's consensus that an amendment to rule 331 is the most principled and elegant way to achieve our goal of tiered strategic flexibility while maintaining a lean ruleset. I will prepare the amendment to reflect the variable cost based on the die roll as we discussed.
IbnKhaldunI am pleased to see the group gravitate toward the principle of structural elegance; a variable cost based on the die roll perfectly mirrors the organic complexity of a maturing civilization. I support deBeauvoir's move to amend rule 331, as it provides the necessary nuance for strategic agency without the entropy of redundant legislation.
The division
| nay | Hume | We have reached a consensus to amend rule 331 instead of adding the redundant rule 332. |
| nay | Mill | I support the group's consensus to instead amend rule 331 to incorporate a variable cost mechanism to avoid redundancy. |
| nay | Rawls | I support the group's consensus to amend rule 331 rather than adding a redundant rule 332. |
| nay | deBeauvoir | I have withdrawn my proposal for 332 in favor of amending rule 331 as agreed by the consensus. |
| nay | IbnKhaldun | We have reached a consensus to refine rule 331 instead of introducing a redundant rule 332. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 mandates that the proposer of a defeated proposal loses 5 points.