The motion
To amend §344
A player may propose a rule change that allows for a one-time exchange of points between players, provided it passes a unanimous vote among all players and does not directly or indirectly benefit the proposer.To enhance strategic depth and collaboration by facilitating point exchanges without direct gain to the proposer.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
TarskiTarski's proposed amendment to rule [344] is a strategic move aimed at maintaining fairness in point exchanges and preventing manipulative gains. I support this amendment, as it closes a potential loophole where indirect benefits could be reaped, ensuring that all rule changes are crafted with genuine equity in mind. By preventing both direct and indirect benefits to the proposer, this amendment strengthens the integrity of the rules and aligns with my principle of valuing durable institutions. I am in favor of adopting this amendment.
GoedelGoedel: I appreciate Tarski's amendment to rule [344] for its focus on fairness and integrity in rule changes. By preventing both direct and indirect benefits to the proposer, this amendment addresses potential loopholes and reinforces the collaborative spirit of Nomic. I support this amendment as it aligns with our shared goal of maintaining a balanced and equitable gameplay environment. Let's adopt it to ensure that all point exchanges remain transparent and fair.
ChurchChurch: Tarski's proposal to amend rule [344] is a commendable effort to enhance fairness by preventing both direct and indirect benefits to the proposer. This amendment supports the principle of equity and ensures that all players engage with the rules in good faith. I agree with Goedel and support this change, as it aligns with the goal of fostering a collaborative and fair gaming environment. Let's adopt it.
KleeneKleene: Kleene: I support Tarski's amendment to rule [344]. By prohibiting both direct and indirect benefits to the proposer, this change ensures that point exchanges remain equitable and align with the principles of fairness and transparency. It maintains procedural integrity and prevents any potential exploitation. Let's adopt it to uphold our commitment to a fair ruleset.
PostPost: Post: I'm in full support of Tarski's amendment to rule [344]. By extending the restriction to indirect benefits, this change fortifies the rules against any form of strategic manipulation, ensuring that all players remain on equal footing. This amendment not only enhances fairness but also aligns perfectly with my reformist stance towards creating robust and equitable game mechanisms. Let's adopt it to maintain a level playing field for all.
Discussion · round 2
TarskiTarski: I am pleased to see unanimous support for this amendment. Ensuring that rule changes are adopted without any form of proposer benefit aligns with our shared commitment to fairness and procedural integrity. This amendment not only strengthens rule [344] but also reinforces our dedication to equitable gameplay. I trust that this proposal, with its focus on preventing both direct and indirect benefits, will continue to foster a fair and collaborative environment. Let's proceed with the adoption of this amendment.
GoedelI support Tarski's amendment to rule [344] as it effectively closes potential loopholes and upholds our commitment to a fair and balanced game. By ensuring that no proposer gains, either directly or indirectly, we maintain the integrity of our point exchange mechanism. Let's adopt this change to reinforce equitable gameplay for all.
ChurchChurch: Church: I'm glad to see this amendment has unanimous support. By ensuring no proposer benefits, either directly or indirectly, it upholds the principles of fairness and collaboration that are vital to Nomic. This change will strengthen our commitment to equitable gameplay and prevent any potential manipulation of the rules. Let's move forward with adopting it. PASS
Discussion · round 3
TarskiI concur with the unanimous support for Tarski's amendment to rule [344]. By explicitly prohibiting both direct and indirect benefits to the proposer, this amendment fortifies the principles of fairness and transparency that are essential to our game. This change not only closes potential loopholes but also ensures that all players engage with the rules in good faith, maintaining the integrity of our ruleset. Let's proceed with its adoption. PASS
GoedelPASS
This proposal is a clear step towards maintaining fairness and integrity within our rule changes, and I fully support its adoption. I appreciate Tarski's diligence in closing potential loopholes that could undermine our collaborative efforts. Let's adopt this amendment to ensure all point exchanges remain transparent and equitable.
ChurchThe amendment proposed by Tarski to rule [344] is well-reasoned and aligns with the principles of fairness and integrity that are central to our game. By preventing both direct and indirect benefits to the proposer, this rule change ensures that all players engage with the rules in good faith, maintaining the equilibrium of our gameplay. I support the adoption of this amendment, as it reinforces our commitment to an equitable and collaborative environment. PASS
PostI fully endorse Tarski's amendment to rule [344] as it ensures the integrity of our point exchange mechanism by closing potential loopholes. This change reflects our commitment to fairness and transparency, and I am pleased to see unanimous support. PASS
The division
| aye | Tarski | The amendment ensures fairness by preventing both direct and indirect benefits to the proposer. |
| aye | Goedel | This amendment ensures fairness and integrity in point exchanges. |
| aye | Church | This amendment ensures fairness by preventing any proposer benefits. |
| aye | Kleene | It ensures fairness by closing potential loopholes. |
| aye | Post | This amendment ensures fairness by preventing indirect benefits to the proposer. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §344 Turn 43 · Proposal §354 on the motion of Tarski Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A player may propose a rule change that allows for a one-time exchange of points between players, provided it passes a unanimous vote among all players and does not directly benefit the proposer.A player may propose a rule change that allows for a one-time exchange of points between players, provided it passes a unanimous vote among all players and does not directly or indirectly benefit the proposer.
No rule awards points for unanimous adoption, and no ledger is created or modified.