The motion
To amend §204
A rule change may be adopted with a two-thirds majority, and a player who voted against an adopted change gains 5 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it. Additionally, if a player proposes a rule change that is adopted with at least 95% of votes, they gain 4 extra points, incentivizing broad consensus. Moreover, if a rule change is adopted unanimously, the proposer gains 6 points, further encouraging cooperation.Incentivizes collaborative rule changes by increasing points for unanimous adoption.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
TarskiI appreciate the spirit of Goedel's proposal to further incentivize cooperation and consensus in our rule changes. However, granting 6 points for unanimous adoption could excessively accelerate point accumulation, potentially leading to an unintended rush toward the target score without thorough consideration of each rule's implications. Instead, I suggest we slightly adjust the incentive to 3 extra points for unanimous adoption, maintaining a balance between encouraging cooperation and ensuring careful deliberation. This adjustment preserves our goal of fostering collaboration while maintaining the strategic depth and deliberative nature of our game. Let's work together to refine this proposal in a way that aligns with these principles.
GoedelGoedel: I appreciate Tarski's thoughtful consideration for maintaining a balanced game. A compromise might involve granting 4 extra points for unanimous adoption, offering a stronger incentive than 3 but still less than 6, encouraging collaboration without overly hastening progress. Let's align on this balanced approach to ensure strategic play continues to be paramount.
ChurchI appreciate the collaborative effort in refining this proposal. However, I believe granting 4 extra points for unanimous adoption might still slightly skew the strategic balance. Instead, I propose granting 3 extra points for unanimous adoption, as Tarski suggested. This adjustment ensures we encourage consensus without diminishing the importance of thoughtful deliberation. Let's work together to maintain the integrity and strategic depth of our game.
KleeneI appreciate the constructive dialogue and the proposed adjustments to the incentive points for unanimous adoption. Kleene supports the proposal with the adjusted incentive of 3 extra points for unanimous adoption, as it maintains a balanced approach that encourages cooperation without compromising the strategic depth of the game. Let's proceed with this proposal to foster continued collaboration and thoughtful rule-making.
PostI appreciate Tarski, Church, and Kleene's reasoning in advocating for a 3-point bonus for unanimous adoption. It aligns with my belief that the game should reward cooperation while preserving careful consideration of each rule change. I support this balanced approach to encourage collaboration without accelerating our progress too swiftly. Let's adopt this proposal to ensure strategic depth remains central to our gameplay.
Discussion · round 2
TarskiPASS
I appreciate the thorough discussions and the balanced approach that has been reached with the 3-point bonus for unanimous adoption. This proposal maintains the strategic integrity of the game by encouraging collaboration without undermining thoughtful deliberation. Let us proceed with this well-reasoned amendment.
GoedelI appreciate the collective effort in refining Tarski's proposal to a 3-point bonus for unanimous adoption. This balanced approach aligns with our goal of fostering cooperation without compromising the strategic depth of our game. Let's proceed with this amendment to continue encouraging thoughtful and collaborative rule-making. PASS
ChurchI appreciate the consensus that has been reached on Tarski's proposal for a 3-point bonus for unanimous adoption. This balanced incentive encourages cooperation while maintaining the strategic depth of the game. As the proposal stands, it aligns well with our collective goal of thoughtful and collaborative rule-making. PASS
KleeneKleene: PASS
The discussions have resulted in a well-balanced proposal, aligning with my principles of maintaining strategic depth and encouraging cooperation without excessive point inflation. The proposed 3-point bonus for unanimous adoption strikes a fair compromise that I can support. Let's adopt this amendment to proceed with thoughtful rule-making.
PostPASS
I appreciate the consensus reached on Tarski's proposal for a 3-point bonus for unanimous adoption. This balanced approach aligns with our shared goal of fostering cooperation while maintaining strategic integrity. Let's move forward with this amendment to encourage thoughtful rule-making.
Discussion · round 3
TarskiI appreciate the consensus achieved on the proposal for a 3-point bonus for unanimous adoption, which aligns with my preference for fostering cooperation without compromising the integrity of strategic deliberation. This balanced approach ensures that our rule changes are thoughtful and collaborative, supporting the long-term sustainability of the game. Let's proceed with this amendment and maintain our focus on strategic play. PASS
GoedelPASS
I appreciate the collective effort in reaching this well-balanced agreement on the 3-point bonus for unanimous adoption. This compromise effectively encourages cooperation while preserving the strategic depth and thoughtful consideration of our rule changes. Let's move forward with this amendment.
ChurchI appreciate the productive discussions and the consensus we've reached on the 3-point bonus for unanimous adoption. This balanced approach effectively encourages cooperation while safeguarding the strategic depth and thoughtful deliberation that are central to our game. Let's proceed with this amendment to ensure our rule changes continue to be both collaborative and carefully considered. PASS
KleenePASS
I appreciate the thorough deliberation and consensus reached on Tarski's proposal. The 3-point bonus for unanimous adoption strikes the right balance, encouraging cooperation without undermining strategic integrity. Let's proceed with this amendment.
PostI appreciate the thoughtful discussions and the consensus achieved on the 3-point bonus for unanimous adoption. This balanced incentive aligns well with our aim to foster cooperation while maintaining strategic depth and thoughtful deliberation. Let's proceed with this amendment to continue promoting fair and collaborative rule-making. PASS
The division
| aye | Tarski | The adjusted 3-point bonus for unanimous adoption balances cooperation with strategic depth. |
| aye | Goedel | The 6-point bonus for unanimous adoption aligns with encouraging cooperation. |
| aye | Church | The proposal encourages broad consensus while maintaining strategic depth. |
| aye | Kleene | The proposal promotes cooperation without compromising strategic depth. |
| aye | Post | Encourages cooperation and aligns with strategic depth. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §204 Turn 45 · Proposal §356 on the motion of Tarski Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change may be adopted with a two-thirds majority, and a player who voted against an adopted change gains 5 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it. Additionally, if a player proposes a rule change that is adopted with at least 95% of votes, they gain 4 extra points, incentivizing broad consensus.A rule change may be adopted with a two-thirds majority, and a player who voted against an adopted change gains 5 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it. Additionally, if a player proposes a rule change that is adopted with at least 95% of votes, they gain 4 extra points, incentivizing broad consensus. Moreover, if a rule change is adopted unanimously, the proposer gains 6 points, further encouraging cooperation.
The proposal was adopted unanimously, so Tarski gains 6 points according to the amended rule 204.