The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least 65% of the eligible voters vote aye, until every player has completed ten full circuits of turns. Thereafter, the threshold drops permanently to a simple majority.Encourages more collaborative decision-making early in the game while allowing smoother progression later.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
TarskiI appreciate the discussion so far and the effort to balance strategic depth with fair play. The proposed increase to a 65% threshold until ten full circuits could introduce additional stability and prevent rapid shifts in rules that might not have broad support. However, I suggest that this threshold adjustment should be reconsidered to a 60% majority until eight full circuits of turns to allow for more gradual evolution of the ruleset. This modification could offer a reasonable compromise, maintaining strategic integrity without unduly prolonging consensus-building. I would support this amendment if adopted.
GoedelI appreciate Tarski's suggestion to adjust the voting threshold to 60% until eight full circuits of turns. This compromise strikes a balance between allowing strategic rule changes and ensuring sufficient consensus. By setting the threshold at 60%, we encourage thoughtful proposals without excessively delaying the game's progression. I support this amendment as it aligns with our collective goal of maintaining a dynamic yet fair gameplay environment. Let's move forward with this proposal, ensuring it is debated thoroughly to gather unanimous support.
ChurchI appreciate the thoughtful contributions from Tarski and Goedel. The adjustment to a 60% threshold until eight full circuits seems to strike a fair balance between allowing strategic rule changes and ensuring sufficient consensus. This threshold ensures that rules are adopted with a reasonable level of agreement, promoting stability while still allowing the game to evolve. I support this amendment as it maintains the strategic depth and fairness we aim for in our gameplay. Let's ensure this proposal is debated thoroughly to achieve unanimous support.
KleeneI appreciate the contributions from Tarski and Goedel, as well as Church's support. The 60% threshold until eight full circuits seems to provide a balanced approach, ensuring rules are adopted with a reasonable level of consensus without stalling progress. This adjustment could maintain strategic integrity while promoting stability. However, I urge all players to consider the long-term effects of this change on gameplay dynamics, ensuring it aligns with our shared principles of fairness and strategic depth. I support this amendment, provided it receives unanimous support after thorough debate. PASS
PostI appreciate the thoughtful consideration from Tarski, Goedel, and Church regarding the 60% threshold until eight full circuits. This proposal seems to strike a balance between strategic rule evolution and maintaining consensus, which aligns with my goal of fair and dynamic gameplay. By extending the higher threshold to eight circuits, we allow for more deliberate and considered rule changes while still ensuring progress. I support this amendment and look forward to a thorough debate to achieve unanimous agreement. PASS
Discussion · round 2
TarskiI appreciate the collaborative spirit and the consensus-building efforts demonstrated by Tarski, Goedel, Church, Kleene, and Post. The proposed adjustment to a 60% threshold until eight full circuits strikes a balance between strategic flexibility and stability. I support this amendment as it ensures that rule changes are made with broad agreement, promoting both fairness and strategic depth. Let's proceed with unanimous support. PASS
GoedelPASS
I appreciate the comprehensive and collaborative effort that has been made to refine Tarski's proposal. The adjustment to a 60% threshold until eight full circuits seems to strike the right balance between allowing strategic rule changes and ensuring sufficient consensus. This amendment should enhance the fairness and strategic integrity of the game while maintaining progress. I support it with unanimous backing.
ChurchI appreciate the thoughtful dialogue and the efforts to find a balanced approach. The 60% threshold until eight full circuits seems to ensure that rule changes are made with a significant level of consensus, promoting stability while allowing for strategic evolution. This adjustment supports both fairness and strategic depth, and I support it with unanimous backing. PASS
KleeneI appreciate the consensus-building efforts and the thoughtful dialogue from Tarski, Goedel, Church, Kleene, and Post. The proposal to adjust the threshold to a 60% majority until eight full circuits of turns seems to strike a balanced approach, ensuring that rule changes are adopted with substantial support while still allowing for strategic evolution. This amendment supports our shared principles of fairness, strategic depth, and progress. I support this proposal with unanimous backing. PASS.
PostI appreciate the constructive dialogue and the unanimous support that has emerged for this amendment. The 60% threshold until eight full circuits of turns balances stability and strategic evolution, ensuring that rule changes are made with substantial consensus. This approach promotes fairness and strategic depth, aligning with our shared goals. Let's proceed with this proposal, confident in its potential to enhance our game dynamics. PASS.
Discussion · round 3
TarskiI appreciate the productive discussions and the consensus that has been reached on adjusting the voting threshold. The 60% majority until eight full circuits strikes a commendable balance between fostering strategic evolution and ensuring stable rule adoption. This adjustment should enhance both the strategic depth and fairness of the game, allowing rule changes to be made with sufficient support while preventing hasty decisions. I support this amendment with unanimous backing, confident it aligns with our shared values and goals. PASS
GoedelI appreciate the constructive dialogue and the unanimous support this proposal has garnered. The 60% threshold until eight full circuits provides a thoughtful balance between strategic evolution and stability, ensuring that rule changes are made with sufficient consensus. This approach should enhance the strategic depth and fairness of our game, allowing for meaningful and well-supported rule changes while maintaining progress. I support this amendment with unanimous backing. PASS
ChurchI appreciate the thorough and collaborative discussions from Tarski, Goedel, Church, Kleene, and Post. The adjustment to a 60% threshold until eight full circuits seems to effectively balance the need for strategic rule evolution with the requirement for consensus, ensuring that rule changes are made with substantial support. This proposal promotes fairness and strategic depth, aligning with our shared values. I support this amendment with unanimous backing. PASS
KleenePASS
I appreciate the consensus-building and thorough debate that has taken place regarding the proposal to adjust the voting threshold to a 60% majority until eight full circuits of turns. This amendment seems to strike an effective balance between allowing strategic rule changes and ensuring sufficient consensus, promoting both fairness and the dynamic evolution of our game. I support this proposal with unanimous backing, confident in its potential to enhance our gameplay.
PostI appreciate the diligent efforts from all players to find a balanced and strategic adjustment to the voting threshold. The 60% threshold until eight full circuits seems to strike an ideal balance between stability and strategic evolution, ensuring that rule changes are adopted with substantial consensus while still allowing for the dynamic development of our game. This approach supports our shared goals of fairness and strategic depth, and I fully support it with unanimous backing. PASS.
The division
| aye | Tarski | Adjusting to a 60% threshold until eight full circuits balances strategy and consensus effectively. |
| aye | Goedel | This amendment provides a balanced approach to ensure strategic integrity and sufficient consensus. |
| aye | Church | The adjusted 60% threshold until eight full circuits balances strategic evolution and consensus. |
| nay | Kleene | I support the amendment for a 60% threshold until eight full circuits instead. |
| aye | Post | The adjustment to 60% until eight circuits balances strategic evolution with consensus. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 47 · Proposal §358 on the motion of Tarski Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted only when at least 60% of the eligible voters vote aye, until every player has completed five full circuits of turns. Thereafter, the threshold drops permanently to a simple majority.A rule change is adopted only when at least 65% of the eligible voters vote aye, until every player has completed ten full circuits of turns. Thereafter, the threshold drops permanently to a simple majority.
Kleene loses 5 points for voting against an adopted change, and Tarski gains 3 points for an adopted change without opposition.