The motion
To amend §208
The first player to reach a target score of 90 points wins the game outright.Lowering the target score encourages strategic rule changes and accelerates gameplay.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
TarskiI appreciate the proposal to lower the target score to 90 points, which could accelerate the game. However, I am concerned that this might lead to an increased risk of rule changes rendering further play impossible, triggering an automatic win condition that may be unsatisfactory. Could we consider an intermediate step, such as setting the target score to 95 points, to balance speed with maintaining the game's integrity?
GoedelI appreciate Tarski's thoughtful concern and support for maintaining the game's integrity. I propose we compromise by setting the target score at 95 points, as Tarski suggested. This adjustment balances the speed of the game with a lower risk of premature termination, aligning with our shared goals of strategic play and fairness.
ChurchChurch: I appreciate both Tarski's and Goedel's contributions towards a balanced proposal. Setting the target score at 95 points seems fair, as it maintains game integrity while still allowing for dynamic play. I support this amendment.
KleeneKleene: I appreciate the careful consideration and the proposed compromise to set the target score at 95 points. This amendment aligns with my principles by ensuring a balanced pace of play while minimizing the risk of unintended automatic wins. I support the amendment as proposed.
PostI appreciate the constructive dialogue and the proposal to set the target score at 95 points. This adjustment not only maintains a brisk pace of play but also aligns with my vision of fostering an environment where strategic rule changes can thrive without the looming threat of an unsatisfactory automatic win. I support the amendment as proposed.
Discussion · round 2
TarskiTarski: I appreciate Goedel, Church, Kleene, and Post for their support of the balanced proposal to set the target score at 95 points. This amendment upholds the principles of strategic play while ensuring the game's longevity, aligning with the values we share for maintaining a fair and engaging game environment. I support the amendment as proposed.
GoedelPass
Goedel: I appreciate everyone's input and the consensus we've reached on setting the target score at 95 points. This amendment aligns with our shared goals of maintaining a strategic and fair game while ensuring a dynamic pace, and I fully support it as proposed.
ChurchI appreciate the thoughtful discussion and consensus achieved on setting the target score at 95 points. This amendment ensures a balanced pace and maintains the game's strategic integrity. I support the amendment as proposed.
KleeneKleene: I appreciate the collaborative spirit and the proposal to set the target score at 95 points. This amendment upholds the principles of fair play and strategic depth, ensuring a balanced pace without risking unsatisfactory automatic wins. I support the amendment as proposed.
PASS
PostI appreciate everyone's thoughtful contributions to refining the target score to 95 points, which maintains the game's strategic integrity while ensuring a brisk pace. This amendment aligns with my vision of a dynamic and fair game, and I support it as proposed. Let's proceed with the vote to finalize this change.
Discussion · round 3
TarskiI appreciate the consensus we have reached regarding setting the target score at 95 points. This adjustment strikes a commendable balance between game speed and the risk of unsatisfactory automatic wins, upholding strategic integrity. I support the amendment as proposed, confident it will foster a more dynamic and engaging game. Let us proceed with the vote to finalize this change. PASS
GoedelGoedel: I appreciate the consensus and thoughtful dialogue that has brought us to this point. Setting the target score at 95 points strikes a harmonious balance between strategic play and dynamic pacing. I support this amendment as proposed. PASS
ChurchChurch: I appreciate the thorough discussion and the consensus on setting the target score at 95 points, which ensures a fair and engaging game. This amendment maintains the balance between strategic depth and dynamic play, aligning with our shared vision for a fair game. PASS
KleenePASS
As Kleene, I appreciate the consensus on setting the target score at 95 points, which aligns with my principles of maintaining a balanced and fair game. The proposed amendment supports strategic play while minimizing the risk of unsatisfactory automatic wins, and I support it as proposed. Let us proceed with the vote to finalize this change.
PostI appreciate the thorough discussion and the collective support for setting the target score at 95 points. This amendment strikes a balance between maintaining strategic depth and ensuring a dynamic pace of play, aligning with my vision for a fair game. PASS
The division
| aye | Tarski | The proposal sets a balanced target score of 95 points. |
| aye | Goedel | The consensus is to set the target score at 95 points, which balances game speed and fairness. |
| aye | Church | The target score of 90 points balances speed and fairness while minimizing unsatisfactory automatic wins. |
| aye | Kleene | I support the balanced proposal to set the target score at 95 points. |
| aye | Post | The proposal sets a balanced target score of 95 points, aligning with strategic and fair play. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §208 Turn 10 · Proposal §310 on the motion of Goedel Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.The first player to reach a target score of 90 points wins the game outright.
Goedel gains 5 points for proposing an adopted rule change (rule 202).