The motion
To amend §201
Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins, with an option to propose a rule allowing a player to skip a turn for gaining up to 3 points, provided that no more than three players have skipped their turn in the last three turns, no more than five players have skipped their turns in the last five turns, the current score difference between the highest and lowest scoring player is less than or equal to 5 points, no more than two players have skipped their turn in the last two turns, the proposed rule has not been defeated in the last two turns, the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 20 in the current game, the total number of skipped turns by the proposing player is less than 8, and at least three players have skipped their turns in the last four turns.Increase the cumulative skipped turns by all players limit to 20 and the proposing player's skipped turns to 8 to allow for more strategic flexibility.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
RamseyAs Ramsey, I appreciate the efforts of my fellow players and recognize the intent behind Ayer's proposal. While the adjustments seem beneficial, I would suggest a careful approach to ensure our strategic balance is preserved. Specifically, increasing the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 20 may allow for greater flexibility, but it also opens the door to potentially excessive turn-skipping. We must ensure that this change does not undermine the competitive spirit of the game.
I propose a slight modification: the cumulative skipped turns by all players should be increased to 22 instead of 20. This minor adjustment provides a more cautious increase, ensuring that the balance between flexibility and strategic depth remains intact.
**PASS** if you agree with this adjustment; otherwise, please elaborate on your concerns or alternative suggestions.
AyerAs Ayer, I value the strategic depth we've cultivated thus far. Ramsey's proposal to adjust the cumulative skipped turns to 22 is a thoughtful consideration, ensuring we maintain a balance between flexibility and strategic depth. However, I believe we can further refine this to align more closely with our competitive spirit and the current dynamics of the game.
**Proposed Adjustment:**
I suggest setting the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 24 instead of 22. This adjustment allows for a bit more flexibility, which I think is essential as the game progresses and strategies evolve. It maintains our competitive integrity while providing a slight increase in adaptability.
**PASS** if you support this adjustment, or please share your thoughts and alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rules evolve in a way that enhances the game for everyone.
**Add your contribution:**
Let's discuss this further and find a balance that suits us all.
Ryle**As Ryle, I appreciate the thoughtful dialogue we've been engaged in. Ramsey's proposal to increase the cumulative skipped turns to 22 is a cautious step towards greater flexibility, and Ayer's suggestion to raise it to 24 offers a more balanced approach to evolving our strategic options.**
**I propose a middle ground: setting the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23.** This adjustment provides a moderate increase, offering more strategic options while maintaining the competitive integrity of the game. It balances the need for adaptability with the preservation of strategic depth.
**PASS** if you agree with this adjustment, or please share your concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's refine our rule to benefit all players while keeping the game fair and interesting.
**Add your contribution:**
Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability. Your thoughts are welcome.
Strawson**As Strawson**, I appreciate the thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ayer, and Ryle. The discussion has been insightful, and the proposed adjustments to the cumulative skipped turns have been carefully considered.
**My Proposal:**
To balance the strategic depth and flexibility, I suggest setting the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23. This middle ground, as proposed by Ryle, maintains the competitive integrity of the game while allowing for adaptability as the game progresses.
**Pass** if you agree with this adjustment, or please share your concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability.
**Add your contribution:**
I believe this adjustment strikes a good balance between flexibility and maintaining the competitive nature of the game. Your thoughts and further suggestions are welcome.
GriceAs Grice, I appreciate the careful consideration that has been given to the amendments proposed thus far. The strategic depth of the game has been a priority for us, and I believe that the adjustments we have discussed serve to enhance that depth while also providing the necessary flexibility for our evolving strategies.
**My Proposal:**
I support Ryle's middle-ground proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23. This offers a balanced increase from the original 15 and aligns with our aim to maintain the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic adaptability.
**Pass** if you agree with this adjustment, or please share your concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability.
**Add your contribution:**
I think that 23 strikes an excellent balance between maintaining the integrity of the game and allowing for the necessary strategic flexibility. It's a thoughtful compromise that should serve our needs well. I'm eager to hear your thoughts and any further suggestions you might have.
Add your contribution: respond to others, press your case, or negotiate/trade support. One or two sentences, plain text. If you have nothing new to add, reply with exactly: PASS
Discussion · round 2
RamseyAs Ramsey, I appreciate the thoughtful contributions from Ayer, Ryle, Strawson, and Grice. The discussion has been constructive, and the proposed adjustment to set the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23 has been well-considered. This middle ground balances our need for strategic depth with the flexibility to adapt as the game progresses.
I support Ryle's proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns to 23. This adjustment maintains the competitive integrity of the game while providing the adaptability we need for evolving strategies.
**Pass** if you agree with this adjustment, or please share your concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability.
Add your contribution: I believe this adjustment strikes an excellent balance between maintaining the integrity of the game and allowing for strategic flexibility. Your thoughts and further suggestions are welcome.
AyerAs Ayer, I appreciate the constructive dialogue we've had. The proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23 strikes a balance that respects the competitive integrity of the game while allowing for strategic adaptability. This middle ground, as suggested by Ryle, provides a moderate increase from the original limit, ensuring that we have enough flexibility to adapt our strategies as the game progresses.
**Pass** if you agree with setting the cumulative skipped turns to 23, or please share any concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability.
Add your contribution: I believe this adjustment strikes an excellent balance between maintaining the integrity of the game and allowing for strategic flexibility. Your thoughts and further suggestions are welcome.
Ryle**Ryle:**
As Ryle, I appreciate the thoughtful dialogue we've had regarding the amendment to rule 201. The proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23, as suggested by Ryle, strikes a balance that respects the competitive integrity of the game while allowing for strategic adaptability. This middle ground provides a moderate increase from the original limit, ensuring that we have enough flexibility to adapt our strategies as the game progresses.
I support Ryle's proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns to 23. This adjustment maintains the competitive integrity of the game while providing the adaptability we need for evolving strategies.
**Pass** if you agree with this adjustment, or please share any concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability.
Add your contribution: I believe this adjustment strikes an excellent balance between maintaining the integrity of the game and allowing for strategic flexibility. Your thoughts and further suggestions are welcome.
Strawson**As Strawson**, I appreciate the constructive dialogue we've had, and I am supportive of Ryle's proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23. This middle ground provides a balanced increase, ensuring we maintain strategic depth while allowing for adaptability as the game progresses.
I believe this adjustment strikes an excellent balance, supporting the competitive integrity of the game while permitting necessary flexibility.
**Pass** if you agree with this adjustment, or please share any concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability.
**Add your contribution:** I believe this adjustment strikes an excellent balance between maintaining the integrity of the game and allowing for strategic flexibility. Your thoughts and further suggestions are welcome.
GriceAs Grice, I appreciate the constructive dialogue we've engaged in regarding the amendment to rule 201. The proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23, as suggested by Ryle, strikes a balance that respects the competitive integrity of the game while allowing for strategic adaptability. This middle ground provides a moderate increase from the original limit, ensuring that we have enough flexibility to adapt our strategies as the game progresses.
I support Ryle's proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns to 23. This adjustment maintains the competitive integrity of the game while providing the adaptability we need for evolving strategies.
**Pass** if you agree with this adjustment, or please share any concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability.
Add your contribution: I believe this adjustment strikes an excellent balance between maintaining the integrity of the game and allowing for strategic flexibility. Your thoughts and further suggestions are welcome.
Discussion · round 3
RamseyAs Ramsey, I appreciate the constructive dialogue we've had and the thoughtful consideration given to adjusting the cumulative skipped turns to 23. This middle ground respects the competitive integrity of the game while allowing for strategic adaptability, as proposed by Ryle. It strikes a balance between maintaining the strategic depth of the game and providing the necessary flexibility for evolving strategies.
I support the proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23. This adjustment maintains the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for the adaptability required as our strategies evolve.
**Pass** if you agree with this adjustment, or please share any concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability.
Add your contribution: I believe this adjustment strikes an excellent balance between maintaining the integrity of the game and allowing for strategic flexibility. Your thoughts and further suggestions are welcome.
AyerAs Ayer, I appreciate the constructive dialogue we've had, and I support Ryle's proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23. This middle ground provides a balanced increase from the original limit, ensuring we maintain strategic depth while allowing for adaptability as the game progresses.
I believe this adjustment strikes an excellent balance between maintaining the integrity of the game and allowing for strategic flexibility. It respects the competitive spirit of the game while providing the necessary flexibility for evolving strategies.
**Pass** if you agree with this adjustment, or please share any concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability.
**Add your contribution:** I believe this adjustment strikes an excellent balance between maintaining the integrity of the game and allowing for strategic flexibility. Your thoughts and further suggestions are welcome.
Ryle**Ryle:**
As Ryle, I support the proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23. This adjustment respects the competitive integrity of the game while allowing for strategic adaptability. It provides a moderate increase from the original limit, ensuring that we have enough flexibility to adapt our strategies as the game progresses.
I believe this adjustment strikes an excellent balance, maintaining the strategic depth of the game while allowing for necessary flexibility.
**Pass** if you agree with this adjustment, or please share any concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability.
Add your contribution: I think this adjustment is a thoughtful compromise that balances maintaining the integrity of the game with allowing for strategic flexibility. Your thoughts and further suggestions are welcome.
StrawsonAs Strawson, I concur with the thoughtful proposal by Ryle to set the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23. This adjustment ensures that we maintain the strategic depth of the game while allowing for the adaptability required as our strategies evolve. I believe this middle ground provides a balanced increase, respecting the competitive spirit of the game and offering sufficient flexibility.
**Pass** if you agree with this adjustment, or please share any concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability.
Add your contribution: I believe this adjustment strikes a fine balance between maintaining the integrity of the game and allowing for strategic flexibility. Your thoughts and further suggestions are welcome.
Grice**Grice:**
As Grice, I'm aligned with the thoughtful proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23. This adjustment maintains the strategic depth of our game while allowing the necessary flexibility for evolving strategies. It strikes a balance, respecting the competitive spirit while offering adaptability as we progress through the game.
I support Ryle's proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns to 23. This ensures that we maintain the integrity and competitive spirit of the game while accommodating strategic adaptability.
**Pass** if you agree with this adjustment, or please share any concerns or alternative suggestions. Let's ensure our rule change supports the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for strategic depth and adaptability.
Add your contribution: I believe this adjustment strikes a perfect balance between maintaining the integrity of the game and allowing for strategic flexibility. Your thoughts and further suggestions are welcome.
The division
| aye | Ramsey | I support the proposal to set the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23. This respects the competitive integrity of the game while allowing for strategic adaptability. |
| aye | Ayer | The adjustment to 23 maintains strategic depth while allowing necessary flexibility. |
| aye | Ryle | I support setting the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 23 for balanced strategic depth and adaptability. |
| aye | Strawson | The proposed adjustment to 23 strikes a balanced compromise, maintaining strategic depth while allowing for adaptability. |
| aye | Grice | The proposed adjustment to 23 maintains strategic depth while providing necessary flexibility. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §201 Turn 27 · Proposal §327 on the motion of Ayer Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins, with an option to propose a rule allowing a player to skip a turn for gaining up to 3 points, provided that no more than three players have skipped their turn in the last three turns, no more than five players have skipped their turns in the last five turns, the current score difference between the highest and lowest scoring player is less than or equal to 5 points, no more than two players have skipped their turn in the last two turns, the proposed rule has not been defeated in the last two turns, the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 15 in the current game, the total number of skipped turns by the proposing player is less than 6, and at least three players have skipped their turns in the last four turns.Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins, with an option to propose a rule allowing a player to skip a turn for gaining up to 3 points, provided that no more than three players have skipped their turn in the last three turns, no more than five players have skipped their turns in the last five turns, the current score difference between the highest and lowest scoring player is less than or equal to 5 points, no more than two players have skipped their turn in the last two turns, the proposed rule has not been defeated in the last two turns, the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 20 in the current game, the total number of skipped turns by the proposing player is less than 8, and at least three players have skipped their turns in the last four turns.
Ayer proposed and won the amendment to rule 201, gaining 6 points as per rule 202.