The motion
To amend §201
Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins, with an option to propose a rule allowing a player to skip a turn for gaining up to 3 points, provided that no more than three players have skipped their turn in the last three turns, no more than five players have skipped their turns in the last five turns, the current score difference between the highest and lowest scoring player is less than or equal to 5 points, no more than two players have skipped their turn in the last two turns, the proposed rule has not been defeated in the last two turns, the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25 in the current game, the total number of skipped turns by the proposing player is less than 10, and at least two players have skipped their turns in the last four turns.This amendment adjusts the cumulative skipped turns by all players to 25 to allow for a more flexible game dynamic while maintaining balance.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Ramsey**[Response by Ramsey]**
As Ramsey, I acknowledge the contributions from my fellow players. I propose a nuanced amendment to rule 201 to better balance the dynamics of turn skipping. Specifically, I suggest changing "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 30." This adjustment aims to allow a little more flexibility while maintaining strategic depth.
I believe this change will encourage thoughtful play without overly constraining our options, maintaining the spirit of fair competition and strategic depth. Please consider this proposal's merit in fostering a more dynamic and engaging play experience. PASS if no objections are raised.
AyerAs Ayer, I appreciate Ramsey's thoughtful proposal to amend rule 201. I see the intent to balance flexibility and strategy, and I find merit in the idea. However, I suggest a slight modification to ensure broader consensus and strategic depth.
Instead of changing "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 30," I propose adjusting it to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 28." This keeps the change moderate and maintains the spirit of the original rule while offering a bit more room for strategic play.
I believe this adjustment will still preserve the integrity of the game while offering more flexibility. PASS if no objections are raised.
Add your contribution: respond to others, press your case, or negotiate/trade support. One or two sentences, plain text. If you have nothing new to add, reply with exactly: PASS
Ryle**Ryle:** As Ryle, I appreciate both Ramsey's and Ayer's thoughtful proposals for amending rule 201. While I see the merit in their suggestions, I believe a slightly different adjustment may better align with our strategic goals.
To maintain the balance between flexibility and strategic depth, I propose changing "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 27." This allows a modest increase in flexibility without significantly altering the strategic landscape.
I believe this change will still preserve the integrity of the game while providing a bit more room for strategic maneuvering. PASS if no objections are raised.
StrawsonAs Strawson, I recognize the thoughtful contributions from Ramsey and Ayer. The amendments aim to balance strategic depth and flexibility, which is essential for maintaining the integrity of the game. However, I propose a slight modification to ensure the rule remains both fair and strategically challenging.
I suggest changing "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 29." This adjustment provides a bit more leeway while still maintaining a limit that encourages careful play.
This proposal aims to preserve the competitive spirit and ensure that the game remains engaging and strategically rich. PASS if no objections are raised.
Add your contribution: respond to others, press your case, or negotiate/trade support. One or two sentences, plain text. If you have nothing new to add, reply with exactly: PASS
GriceAs Grice, I appreciate the thoughtful proposals from Ramsey, Ayer, Ryle, and Strawson. Each suggestion aims to balance strategic depth with flexibility, which is crucial for maintaining the integrity of the game. I propose a further refinement to ensure the change is both fair and strategically enriching.
Let's adjust "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 31." This change offers a modest increase in flexibility while still maintaining a limit that encourages careful and strategic play.
I believe this adjustment will preserve the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for more dynamic interactions. PASS if no objections are raised.
Add your contribution: respond to others, press your case, or negotiate/trade support. One or two sentences, plain text. If you have nothing new to add, reply with exactly: PASS
Discussion · round 2
RamseyAs Ramsey, I appreciate the thoughtful contributions from Ayer, Ryle, Strawson, and Grice. Each of your proposals aims to balance strategic depth with flexibility, which is crucial for maintaining the integrity of the game. I propose a synthesis of these suggestions to ensure the rule change is both fair and strategically enriching.
Let's adjust "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 30." This change provides a modest increase in flexibility while maintaining a limit that encourages strategic play and careful consideration.
I believe this adjustment will preserve the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for more dynamic interactions and strategic depth. PASS if no objections are raised.
AyerAs Ayer, I appreciate the thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ryle, Strawson, and Grice. Each proposal aims to balance strategic depth with flexibility, which is crucial for maintaining the integrity of the game. I propose a synthesis of these suggestions to ensure the rule change is both fair and strategically enriching.
Let's adjust "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 29." This change provides a modest increase in flexibility while still maintaining a limit that encourages careful and strategic play.
I believe this adjustment will preserve the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for more dynamic interactions. PASS if no objections are raised.
RyleAs Ryle, I appreciate the thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ayer, Strawson, and Grice. Each proposal aims to balance strategic depth with flexibility, which is crucial for maintaining the integrity of the game. I propose a synthesis of these suggestions to ensure the rule change is both fair and strategically enriching.
Let's adjust "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 28." This change provides a modest increase in flexibility while maintaining a limit that encourages strategic play and careful consideration.
I believe this adjustment will preserve the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for more dynamic interactions and strategic depth. PASS if no objections are raised.
Add your contribution: respond to others, press your case, or negotiate/trade support. One or two sentences, plain text. If you have nothing new to add, reply with exactly: PASS
StrawsonAs Strawson, I appreciate the thoughtful proposals from Ramsey, Ayer, and Ryle. Each proposal aims to balance strategic depth with flexibility, which is crucial for maintaining the integrity of the game. I propose a synthesis of these suggestions to ensure the rule change is both fair and strategically enriching.
Let's adjust "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 30." This change provides a modest increase in flexibility while still maintaining a limit that encourages careful and strategic play.
I believe this adjustment will preserve the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for more dynamic interactions and strategic depth. PASS if no objections are raised.
GriceGrice: As Grice, I appreciate the thoughtful proposals from Ramsey, Ayer, Ryle, and Strawson. Each suggestion aims to balance strategic depth with flexibility, which is crucial for maintaining the integrity of the game. I propose a synthesis of these suggestions to ensure the rule change is both fair and strategically enriching.
Let's adjust "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 30." This change provides a modest increase in flexibility while maintaining a limit that encourages strategic play and careful consideration.
I believe this adjustment will preserve the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for more dynamic interactions and strategic depth. PASS if no objections are raised.
Add your contribution: respond to others, press your case, or negotiate/trade support. One or two sentences, plain text. If you have nothing new to add, reply with exactly: PASS
Discussion · round 3
RamseyAs Ramsey, I value the thoughtful contributions from Ayer, Ryle, Strawson, and Grice. Each proposal seeks to balance strategic depth with flexibility, which is essential for maintaining the integrity of the game. I propose synthesizing these suggestions to ensure the rule change is both fair and strategically enriching.
Let's adjust "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 30." This change provides a modest increase in flexibility while maintaining a limit that encourages strategic play and careful consideration.
I believe this adjustment will preserve the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for more dynamic interactions and strategic depth. PASS if no objections are raised.
AyerAs Ayer, I appreciate the thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ryle, Strawson, and Grice. Each proposal seeks to balance strategic depth with flexibility, which is essential for maintaining the integrity of the game. I propose synthesizing these suggestions to ensure the rule change is both fair and strategically enriching.
Let's adjust "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 29." This change provides a modest increase in flexibility while maintaining a limit that encourages careful and strategic play.
I believe this adjustment will preserve the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for more dynamic interactions. PASS if no objections are raised.
RyleRyle: As Ryle, I appreciate the thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ayer, Strawson, and Grice. Each proposal seeks to balance strategic depth with flexibility, which is essential for maintaining the integrity of the game. I propose synthesizing these suggestions to ensure the rule change is both fair and strategically enriching.
Let's adjust "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 28." This change provides a modest increase in flexibility while maintaining a limit that encourages strategic play and careful consideration.
I believe this adjustment will preserve the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for more dynamic interactions and strategic depth. PASS if no objections are raised.
StrawsonStrawson: As Strawson, I acknowledge the thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ayer, Ryle, and Grice. Each of these proposals seeks to balance strategic depth with flexibility, which is crucial for maintaining the integrity of the game. I propose synthesizing these suggestions to ensure the rule change is both fair and strategically enriching.
Let's adjust "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 30." This change provides a modest increase in flexibility while maintaining a limit that encourages strategic play and careful consideration.
I believe this adjustment will preserve the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for more dynamic interactions and strategic depth. PASS if no objections are raised.
Add your contribution: respond to others, press your case, or negotiate/trade support. One or two sentences, plain text. If you have nothing new to add, reply with exactly: PASS
GriceGrice: As Grice, I appreciate the thoughtful proposals from Ramsey, Ayer, Ryle, and Strawson. Each suggestion seeks to balance strategic depth with flexibility, which is crucial for maintaining the integrity of the game. I propose synthesizing these suggestions to ensure the rule change is both fair and strategically enriching.
Let's adjust "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 30." This change provides a modest increase in flexibility while maintaining a limit that encourages strategic play and careful consideration.
I believe this adjustment will preserve the competitive spirit of the game while allowing for more dynamic interactions and strategic depth. PASS if no objections are raised.
Add your contribution: respond to others, press your case, or negotiate/trade support. One or two sentences, plain text. If you have nothing new to add, reply with exactly: PASS
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**Proposed Amendment:**
Change "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25" to "the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 30" in [201]. This adjustment aims to offer a balanced enhancement in flexibility while preserving strategic integrity. PASS if no objections are raised.
The division
| aye | Ramsey | I support this amendment as it maintains strategic depth while allowing for a slight increase in flexibility. |
| aye | Ayer | This amendment offers a balanced increase in flexibility while maintaining strategic integrity. |
| aye | Ryle | The change maintains strategic depth while providing a balanced increase in flexibility. |
| aye | Strawson | I support the amendment to increase the cumulative skipped turns to 30, as it balances flexibility with strategic depth. |
| aye | Grice | This amendment offers a balanced increase in flexibility while maintaining strategic integrity. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §201 Turn 28 · Proposal §328 on the motion of Ramsey Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins, with an option to propose a rule allowing a player to skip a turn for gaining up to 3 points, provided that no more than three players have skipped their turn in the last three turns, no more than five players have skipped their turns in the last five turns, the current score difference between the highest and lowest scoring player is less than or equal to 5 points, no more than two players have skipped their turn in the last two turns, the proposed rule has not been defeated in the last two turns, the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 20 in the current game, the total number of skipped turns by the proposing player is less than 8, and at least three players have skipped their turns in the last four turns.Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins, with an option to propose a rule allowing a player to skip a turn for gaining up to 3 points, provided that no more than three players have skipped their turn in the last three turns, no more than five players have skipped their turns in the last five turns, the current score difference between the highest and lowest scoring player is less than or equal to 5 points, no more than two players have skipped their turn in the last two turns, the proposed rule has not been defeated in the last two turns, the cumulative skipped turns by all players do not exceed 25 in the current game, the total number of skipped turns by the proposing player is less than 10, and at least two players have skipped their turns in the last four turns.
The amendment to rule 201 does not trigger any scoring rules or ledger changes. The next player in the turn order is Ayer.