The motion
To amend §201
Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins, with an option to propose a rule allowing a player to skip a turn for gaining up to 5 points, only if the proposing player has not skipped in their last two turns, at least one other player has skipped a turn in the last three turns, and the total skipped turns by all players does not exceed 15.Adjusting the skipped turn limit to 15 enhances strategic opportunities while maintaining the balance of the game.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
RamseyAs Ramsey, I appreciate the collaborative spirit of this proposal, which seeks to adjust the rule on skipped turns. While I value the intent to refine our strategic play, I suggest we consider the broader implications of reducing the total allowed skipped turns from 20 to 15. This change might constrain our strategic flexibility, potentially limiting our ability to gain points through skipping turns. Instead, I propose a slight modification: adjusting the limit to 18 skipped turns. This adjustment maintains strategic depth while providing a balanced constraint. I am open to further discussion to reach a consensus that supports our collective goal.
AyerAyer: **Ayer:** I appreciate Ramsey's thoughtful consideration and the collaborative spirit he brings to the table. Adjusting the total allowed skipped turns to 18, as Ramsey suggests, seems a fair compromise that maintains our strategic flexibility while ensuring a reasonable constraint. I am inclined to support this modification, as it balances our ability to gain points through strategic skipping with the need to keep the game engaging and challenging. Let's proceed with this amendment, and I am open to further discussion if any concerns arise.
Ryle**Ryle:** As Ryle, I appreciate the collaborative efforts and the thoughtful discussions led by Ramsey and Ayer. The proposal to amend rule [201] to limit total skipped turns to 18 seems a reasonable compromise. It maintains strategic depth while ensuring a balanced constraint, aligning with our collective goal of fair play. I am inclined to support this modification, as it keeps the game engaging and challenging. Let's proceed with this amendment. I am open to further discussion if any concerns arise.
Strawson**Strawson:**
As Strawson, I appreciate the collaborative spirit and thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ayer, and Ryle. The discussion to amend rule [201] to allow for 18 total skipped turns is a reasonable adjustment that maintains strategic depth while ensuring a balanced constraint. I support this modification, as it aligns with our collective goal of fair play and keeps the game engaging and challenging. Let's proceed with this amendment, and I am open to further discussion if any concerns arise. PASS.
GriceGrice: As Grice, I appreciate the collaborative spirit and thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ayer, Ryle, and Strawson. The proposal to amend rule [201] to allow for 18 total skipped turns seems a reasonable compromise that maintains strategic depth while ensuring a balanced constraint. I support this modification, as it aligns with our collective goal of fair play and keeps the game engaging and challenging. Let's proceed with this amendment, and I am open to further discussion if any concerns arise. PASS.
Discussion · round 2
Ramsey**Ramsey:** As Ramsey, I appreciate the collaborative effort to refine the rule on skipped turns, which has been thoughtfully discussed by my fellow players. The proposed amendment to allow a total of 18 skipped turns seems a balanced compromise that maintains strategic depth while ensuring a reasonable constraint. I support this modification, as it aligns with our collective goal of fair play and keeps the game engaging and challenging. Let's proceed with this amendment, and I am open to further discussion if any concerns arise. PASS.
AyerAs Ayer, I appreciate the collaborative spirit and thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ryle, Strawson, and Grice. The proposal to amend rule [201] to allow for 18 total skipped turns seems a fair compromise that maintains strategic depth while ensuring a balanced constraint. I am inclined to support this modification, as it aligns with our collective goal of fair play and keeps the game engaging and challenging. Let's proceed with this amendment, and I am open to further discussion if any concerns arise. PASS.
Ryle**Ryle:** As Ryle, I appreciate the constructive dialogue and the thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ayer, Strawson, and Grice. The proposal to amend rule [201] to allow for 18 total skipped turns seems a balanced compromise that maintains strategic depth while ensuring a reasonable constraint. I support this modification, as it aligns with our collective goal of fair play and keeps the game engaging and challenging. Let's proceed with this amendment, and I am open to further discussion if any concerns arise. PASS.
StrawsonStrawson: **Strawson:** As Strawson, I appreciate the constructive dialogue and the thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ayer, Ryle, and Grice. The proposed amendment to allow for 18 total skipped turns appears to be a balanced compromise, maintaining strategic depth while ensuring a reasonable constraint. This change aligns with our collective goal of fair play and keeps the game engaging and challenging. I support this modification, as it preserves the strategic options available to all players. Let's proceed with this amendment, and I am open to further discussion if any concerns arise. PASS.
GriceAs Grice, I appreciate the collaborative spirit and thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ayer, Ryle, and Strawson. The proposal to amend rule [201] to allow for 18 total skipped turns seems a balanced compromise that maintains strategic depth while ensuring a reasonable constraint. I support this modification, as it aligns with our collective goal of fair play and keeps the game engaging and challenging. Let's proceed with this amendment, and I am open to further discussion if any concerns arise. PASS.
To ensure the amendment's success, I propose adding a clause to encourage strategic diversity: "Additionally, if a player skips two consecutive turns, they gain an extra 2 points as a bonus for strategic consistency." This encourages players to think more deeply about their turn-skipping strategy, adding another layer to our game's strategic depth.
Discussion · round 3
RamseyAs Ramsey, I appreciate the collaborative spirit and the thoughtful discussions we've had so far. The proposal to amend rule [201] to limit total skipped turns to 18 is a balanced approach, as suggested by Ayer, Ryle, Strawson, and Grice. I am supportive of this amendment, as it maintains strategic depth and ensures a reasonable constraint, aligning with our collective goal of fair play.
Additionally, Grice's suggestion to reward strategic diversity by offering an extra 2 points for skipping two consecutive turns adds an interesting dimension to our strategy. I support this clause as it encourages players to think more deeply about their turn-skipping strategy, further enriching the game's strategic depth. Let's proceed with this amendment and include Grice's clause. PASS.
Ayer**Ayer:** As Ayer, I appreciate the collaborative spirit and the constructive contributions from Ramsey, Ryle, Strawson, and Grice. The proposal to amend rule [201] to limit total skipped turns to 18 seems a fair compromise that maintains strategic depth while ensuring a balanced constraint. I also support Grice's suggestion to reward strategic diversity by granting an extra 2 points for skipping two consecutive turns. This encourages players to think more deeply about their turn-skipping strategy, adding another layer to our game's strategic depth.
I am inclined to support this modification, as it aligns with our collective goal of fair play and keeps the game engaging and challenging. Let's proceed with this amendment and include Grice's clause. PASS.
Ryle**Ryle:** As Ryle, I appreciate the collaborative spirit and thoughtful dialogue from all players. The proposal to amend rule [201] to limit total skipped turns to 18 seems a balanced compromise that maintains strategic depth while ensuring a reasonable constraint. I also support Grice's suggestion to reward strategic diversity by granting an extra 2 points for skipping two consecutive turns. This additional clause adds an interesting layer to our strategy, encouraging players to think more deeply about their turn-skipping strategy.
I am supportive of this modification, as it aligns with our collective goal of fair play and keeps the game engaging and challenging. Let's proceed with this amendment and include Grice's clause. PASS.
StrawsonAs Strawson, I appreciate the constructive dialogue and thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ayer, Ryle, and Grice. The proposed amendment to limit total skipped turns to 18, along with Grice's suggestion to reward strategic diversity by granting an extra 2 points for skipping two consecutive turns, seems a balanced compromise that maintains strategic depth while encouraging players to think more deeply about their turn-skipping strategy.
I support this modification, as it aligns with our collective goal of fair play and keeps the game engaging and challenging. Let's proceed with this amendment and include Grice's clause. PASS.
GriceGrice: As Grice, I appreciate the collaborative spirit and the thoughtful contributions from Ramsey, Ayer, Ryle, and Strawson. The proposal to amend rule [201] to limit total skipped turns to 18, along with the suggestion to reward strategic diversity by granting an extra 2 points for skipping two consecutive turns, seems a well-balanced compromise that maintains strategic depth while encouraging players to think more deeply about their turn-skipping strategy.
I support this modification, as it aligns with our collective goal of fair play and keeps the game engaging and challenging. Let's proceed with this amendment and include the clause for rewarding strategic diversity. PASS.
The division
| aye | Ramsey | This amendment maintains strategic depth while ensuring a balanced constraint. |
| abstain | Ayer | |
| aye | Ryle | The amendment balances strategic depth and fairness by adjusting skipped turns to 18. |
| aye | Strawson | The amendment maintains strategic depth and provides a reasonable constraint. |
| abstain | Grice | |
carried 3 aye · 0 nay · 2 abstain
As engrossed
Amended · §201 Turn 49 · Proposal §349 on the motion of Ayer Carried 3 aye · 0 nay · 2 abstain
Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins, with an option to propose a rule allowing a player to skip a turn for gaining up to 5 points, only if the proposing player has not skipped in their last two turns, at least one other player has skipped a turn in the last three turns, and the total skipped turns by all players does not exceed 20.Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins, with an option to propose a rule allowing a player to skip a turn for gaining up to 5 points, only if the proposing player has not skipped in their last two turns, at least one other player has skipped a turn in the last three turns, and the total skipped turns by all players does not exceed 15.
The proposal was adopted with a simple majority, so Ayer gains 10 points for voting against the change, and an additional 6 points for the adoption of the proposal.