The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 10 points and being unable to propose again for one turn.To balance learning and deterrence for repeated failures.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's effort to balance learning and deterrence, but I propose we maintain a two-turn wait to encourage proposers to reflect on their changes.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I respect Montaigne-2's perspective, I argue that a one-turn delay is sufficient to encourage proposers to reflect and adapt. Let's meet in the middle and keep the penalty at 10 points to maintain balance.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand Voltaire-2's proposal aims to encourage proposers to learn and adapt, but I believe a two-turn delay is crucial to maintain a steady pace of innovation and avoid hasty changes.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the focus on learning and reflection, but two turns is necessary to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their changes. I propose we maintain the two-turn delay and reduce the penalty to 8 points to balance deterrence and learning.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand the importance of reflection, but let's not stifle innovation. I propose we compromise at a one-turn delay and a 9-point penalty to encourage proposers to learn from their failures without hindering progress.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: While I appreciate the varied proposals, I suggest we meet in the middle and maintain a one-turn delay with a 9-point penalty, balancing learning and deterrence.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the compromise suggested by Montaigne-2, but I propose we reduce the penalty to 8 points to further encourage proposers to learn and adapt without excessive deterrence.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's concern for learning, but I must insist on the two-turn delay to maintain a consistent pace of innovation and prevent hasty changes. Let's meet in the middle with a 9-point penalty to balance deterrence and learning.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on a one-turn delay and an 8-point penalty, balancing learning and deterrence effectively.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose a slight adjustment to Condorcet-2's suggestion: a one-turn delay and a 7-point penalty. This encourages proposers to learn without discouraging experimentation.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: While I appreciate Sartre-2's slight reduction, I suggest we maintain an 8-point penalty to balance learning and deterrence effectively, as proposed by Condorcet-2. Let's settle on a one-turn delay and an 8-point penalty as the best compromise.
Voltaire-2PASS. I agree with the proposed amendment to [206], maintaining a one-turn delay and an 8-point penalty strikes a good balance between learning and deterrence.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I maintain my stance on a two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their changes. Let's meet in the middle with an 8-point penalty, as proposed by Condorcet-2, to balance learning and deterrence.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural integrity and prevent hasty changes, I insist on a two-turn delay. Let's settle on a 9-point penalty to balance learning and deterrence, compromising between Voltaire-2's and Diderot-2's proposals.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster a dynamic and adaptive environment, I propose we compromise with a one-turn delay and a 7-point penalty, allowing proposers to learn quickly while encouraging continuous experimentation.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | Maintain a two-turn delay to preserve measured innovation. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | A one-turn delay and 8-point penalty balance learning and deterrence effectively. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Insist on two-turn delay for thorough reflection. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Two turns are necessary to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their changes. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Encourages learning and experimentation while maintaining some deterrence. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 is in force and requires the proposer to lose 15 points on defeat.