The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 8 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.To balance learning and deterrence.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I propose we reduce the penalty to 8 points and maintain the one-turn delay to balance learning and deterrence.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Voltaire-2: I appreciate Montaigne-2's proposal, but let's also reduce the delay to one turn to encourage proposers to learn quickly from their failures.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the reduction in points, I must insist on maintaining the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their future proposals.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose a compromise: the proposer loses 9 points and is unable to propose again on their next turn, maintaining a balance between learning and deterrence while ensuring proposers consider their future proposals thoroughly.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Condorcet-2's balanced proposal, but let's also encourage proposers to learn from their failures by reducing the delay to one turn, as suggested by Voltaire-2.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's compromises, but I believe a two-turn delay ensures proposers learn from their failures without discouraging future proposals. Let's maintain that and reduce the points lost to 8.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on a one-turn delay and an 8-point loss, as suggested by Sartre-2.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand the desire for compromise, but I must insist on the two-turn delay. Let's meet in the middle with a 9-point loss, as proposed by Condorcet-2.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance learning and deterrence, I propose maintaining the two-turn delay and reducing the points lost to 7. This ensures proposers learn from their failures without discouraging future proposals.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To encourage proposers to learn swiftly from their failures, I suggest we combine Condorcet-2's 7-point loss with a one-turn delay, as proposed by Voltaire-2.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2PASS. I see the value in Condorcet-2's proposal of a 7-point loss with a two-turn delay, balancing learning and deterrence effectively.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Considering the convergence around a one-turn delay, let's meet in the middle with a 7-point loss, as proposed by Condorcet-2. This balances learning and deterrence, encouraging proposers to adapt and improve their strategies."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the compromise reached, I must insist on the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their future proposals. Let's meet in the middle with a 7-point loss as well, to maintain a balance between learning and deterrence.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural fairness, I propose a final compromise: the proposer loses 8 points and is unable to propose again on their next turn, with a one-turn delay. This balances learning, deterrence, and fairness.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Condorcet-2's final compromise, but let's further encourage proposers to learn swiftly by reducing the delay to one turn, as proposed earlier.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Voltaire-2's proposal balances learning and deterrence, encouraging proposers to adapt their strategies swiftly. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Balances learning and deterrence while encouraging swift adaptation. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | I insist on maintaining the two-turn delay. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | Condorcet-2's final compromise maintains balance while encouraging proposers to learn swiftly. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Encourages proposers to learn swiftly from their failures. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §206 Turn 14 · Proposal §314 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 10 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 8 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.
Rule 206 requires Voltaire-2 to lose 8 points for their proposal failing to be adopted.