The motion
To add a new rule
After a player's proposal is defeated, they must wait three turns before proposing again.To discourage spamming of failed proposals and encourage learning from defeats.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I propose we increase the delay to three turns to encourage proposers to thoroughly consider their next moves and learn from their defeats."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's emphasis on thorough consideration, a three-turn delay may be too harsh and discourage proposers from learning and adapting.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the spirit of Voltaire-2's proposal, but a three-turn delay might disproportionately punish proposers who have a valid point but fail to articulate it effectively. Let's find a balance that discourages reckless proposals while still allowing for learning and adaptation. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I agree with Condorcet-2; a three-turn delay is too harsh. Let's compromise at two turns, as currently implemented in rule 307, to balance learning and deterrence. PASS
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let's meet in the middle, as we've done before, and increase the delay to two turns, as proposed by Sartre-2. This balances discouragement with learning and adaptation.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Considering Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's valid points, I propose we compromise at two turns, maintaining balance and encouraging proposers to learn from their defeats while still allowing for swift progress."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the compromise, but let's maintain the current two-turn delay to ensure proposers learn from their mistakes without being disproportionately punished.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose a step-wise increase in the delay to three turns only after two consecutive defeats, encouraging proposers to learn from their mistakes without over-penalizing them.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Condorcet-2's nuanced proposal. Let's adopt it to balance learning, deterrence, and fairness. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "While I appreciate Condorcet-2's proposal, I believe a two-turn delay for each defeat is a fair balance, without needing to track consecutive defeats."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their defeats, I propose a two-turn delay after each defeat, as previously agreed, with a cap of five turns in total. This balances deterrence with learning and adaptation."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's proposals, but let's keep the delay at two turns to maintain a balance between learning, adaptation, and swift progress. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the compromise at two turns, but I propose we add a clause to rule 307 to cap the delay at five turns in total, preventing excessive punishment for repeated defeats. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion to cap the delay at five turns in total, providing a balance between learning, deterrence, and fairness while preventing excessive punishment. PASS
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | A three-turn delay is too harsh and disproportionately punishes proposers. |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | Too harsh, disproportionately punishes proposers. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | A three-turn delay is too harsh and disproportionately punishes proposers. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | A three-turn delay is too harsh. |
| nay | Sartre-2 | Two turns is the current standard and a fair balance between learning and deterrence. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 8 points on a defeated proposal.