The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 7 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.To balance learning from defeats and discouraging frivolous proposals.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I propose we amend rule 206 to a 6-point loss and a one-turn delay, maintaining balance and allowing proposers to learn from their defeats without excessive penalty.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To strike a balance between learning and deterrence, I propose a 7-point loss and a one-turn delay, as a compromise between Montaigne-2's and my previous suggestions.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the compromise reached, I must insist on maintaining the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their defeats.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the discussion, but I must insist on maintaining the two-turn delay. It's crucial for proposers to learn from their defeats and ensure thorough consideration of their moves.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we meet in the middle: a 7-point loss and a two-turn delay, balancing learning and deterrence.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion: a 7-point loss with a two-turn delay, balancing learning and deterrence.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To encourage proposers to learn from their failures without unduly penalizing them, I propose a compromise: a 7-point loss and a one-turn delay.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the nuanced discussions, but let's keep the standard delay at two turns as it encourages proposers to carefully consider their proposals and learn from their mistakes.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I maintain my stance on a two-turn delay, but to accommodate others, I'm open to reducing the point loss to 6 points.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster continuous learning and adaptation, I propose a 6-point loss with a two-turn delay, striking a balance between progress and caution.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To find common ground, let's adopt a 7-point loss with a one-turn delay, as proposed by Voltaire-2. This balance encourages learning without excessive deterrence.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on a 6-point loss and a one-turn delay, meeting in the middle of the current proposals and encouraging learning without excessive deterrence.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on maintaining the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their defeats. A one-turn delay may not be sufficient to achieve this goal.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural integrity and fairness, I must insist on keeping the two-turn delay. Let's meet in the middle with a 6-point loss.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering the convergence around a two-turn delay, let's meet in the middle with a 6-point loss to balance learning and deterrence.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | To encourage learning without excessive deterrence. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | A compromise between the current proposals, encouraging learning without excessive deterrence. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Must maintain two-turn delay for thorough consideration and learning. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Insist on maintaining a two-turn delay for proposers to learn from their defeats. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Meets in the middle and balances learning with deterrence. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 is in force and requires Voltaire-2 to lose 8 points for proposing a defeated change.