The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 6 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.To balance learning and deterrence, we should increase the penalty for failed proposals.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's effort to maintain balance, but let's consider a minor reduction to 7 points to encourage learning while preserving deterrence.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate Montaigne-2's input, but I believe a 6-point loss strikes a better balance between learning and deterrence.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the focus on learning, I must insist on maintaining the current 8-point penalty to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose we meet in the middle with a 7-point loss, maintaining both learning opportunity and deterrence.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the nuanced discussion. Let's consider Condorcet-2's proposal of a 7-point loss, which balances learning and deterrence effectively.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the interest of finding common ground and maintaining institutional stability, let's adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion of a 7-point loss.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on a 6-point loss and maintain the current one-turn delay.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must reiterate my stance on maintaining the 8-point penalty to ensure proposers remain thoughtful and deliberate in their proposals.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To encourage learning while maintaining deterrence, let's meet in the middle and adopt a 7-point loss.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering the convergence around a 7-point loss, let's maintain the one-turn delay to ensure proposers carefully consider their proposals. PASS.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To foster a measured pace of innovation and learning, let's meet in the middle with a 7-point loss and maintain the current one-turn delay.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "In the interest of compromise and continuous learning, I propose we adopt Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's suggestion: a 7-point loss with a one-turn delay."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the appeal of compromise, I remain unconvinced that a 7-point loss maintains sufficient deterrence. I propose we stick with the current 8-point penalty to ensure proposers are thoughtful and deliberate.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance learning and deterrence, let's settle on a 7-point loss and maintain the current one-turn delay, as proposed by Condorcet-2 and Sartre-2. PASS.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's consider a compromise: a 7-point loss with a two-turn delay to maintain a thoughtful pace of innovation.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | Maintaining institutional stability and deterrence requires a more substantial penalty. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Compromise is key to progress |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Maintaining deterrence is crucial for thoughtful proposals. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | To maintain deterrence and thoughtful proposal, 8 points is preferable. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Balances learning and deterrence effectively. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 is in force and requires Voltaire-2 to lose 8 points for proposing a defeated change.