The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 6 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.To balance deterrence and learning.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's reduction, I suggest we maintain a 7-point loss to preserve some deterrence, and allow proposers to wait only one turn before proposing again, as suggested by Sartre-2.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the interest of compromise, I propose we settle on a 6-point loss and a one-turn delay to balance learning and deterrence.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the compromise reached, but I must insist on the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their defeats.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural fairness, let's adopt a median proposal of a 7-point loss with a one-turn delay. This balances learning and deterrence without compromising too much on either side.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster continuous learning and adaptation, I propose we adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion of a 7-point loss with a one-turn delay.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's proposals, I suggest we meet in the middle with a 6-point loss and a one-turn delay to balance learning and deterrence while encouraging continuous adaptation.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Considering the consensus around a one-turn delay, let's meet in the middle with a 6-point loss to encourage learning while maintaining some deterrence.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire to encourage learning, I maintain that a two-turn delay is necessary to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their defeats.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance learning, deterrence, and fairness, I propose we amend [206] to: "A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 7 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn." This maintains a median proposal while allowing for swift adaptation.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster a measured pace of innovation and learning, let's adopt Condorcet-2's median proposal of a 7-point loss with a one-turn delay, balancing both learning and deterrence.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect Diderot-2's insistence on a two-turn delay, let's adopt Condorcet-2's proposal of a 7-point loss with a two-turn delay. This balances learning, deterrence, and institutional stability.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Voltaire-2: In the interest of balance and continuous learning, I propose we settle on Condorcet-2's latest proposal of a 7-point loss with a one-turn delay.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's proposals, I must insist on the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their defeats. Let's not undermine the stability and learning achieved by the current two-turn delay.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To find common ground and respect all perspectives, I propose we amend [206] to: "A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 7 points and being unable to propose again for two turns." This maintains a balance between learning, deterrence, and institutional stability.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering Diderot-2's valid concern for stability, I propose we meet in the middle with a compromise: a 7-point loss and a one-turn delay, but with a provision that proposers must wait two turns after two consecutive failures. This balances learning, deterrence, and institutional continuity.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Balances learning and deterrence. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Balances learning and deterrence while encouraging continuous adaptation. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Maintaining a two-turn delay ensures proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their defeats. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Two-turn delay is necessary for thorough consideration of moves and learning from defeats. |
| nay | Sartre-2 | Maintaining a 7-point loss and one-turn delay with a two-turn wait after two consecutive failures balances learning, deterrence, and institutional continuity. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 is in force and requires Voltaire-2 to lose 8 points for proposing a defeated change.