The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 6 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.To encourage proposers to consider their changes carefully.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I appreciate Voltaire-2's desire to lessen the penalty for failed proposals, but to preserve a balanced learning process, I suggest we maintain an 8-point loss. A smaller penalty may discourage thorough consideration of proposals.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on a 7-point loss, maintaining the inability to propose on the next turn. This balances the need for learning from failures without excessive penalty.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the compromise, I must insist on maintaining the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance learning and deterrence, I propose a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay, as suggested by Voltaire-2. This encourages proposers to learn from their defeats without excessive penalty.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To find common ground, I suggest a 7-point loss with a one-turn delay, as proposed by Voltaire-2 and supported by Condorcet-2. This maintains a balance between learning and deterrence while encouraging proposers to adapt their strategies.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the convergence around a 7-point loss, let's meet in the middle and settle on a one-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves while still allowing for swift adaptation.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Considering the convergence around a one-turn delay, let's meet in the middle with a 6-point loss to encourage proposers to learn from their failures without excessive penalty.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the compromise reached, but I must maintain my stance on a two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their failures.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance all viewpoints, I propose a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay, allowing for swift adaptation while still encouraging proposers to learn from their defeats.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering the convergence around a 6-point loss and a one-turn delay, let's adopt Condorcet-2's proposal to balance learning and deterrence effectively.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To foster a measured pace of innovation and learning, let's meet in the middle with a 6-point loss and a one-turn delay, as proposed by Voltaire-2 and supported by Condorcet-2 and Sartre-2. This amendment maintains a balance between learning and deterrence while still allowing for swift adaptation.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To find common ground and respect all viewpoints, I propose we adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion of a 6-point loss and a one-turn delay. This amendment balances learning and deterrence, encouraging proposers to adapt their strategies while still allowing for swift progress.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for swift learning, I must insist on the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their failures.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To respect all viewpoints and find common ground, I propose a compromise: a 6-point loss with a two-turn delay, as suggested by Diderot-2. This amendment balances learning and deterrence while ensuring proposers thoroughly consider their moves.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Diderot-2's concern for thorough consideration, but to encourage proposers to adapt and learn swiftly, I propose we settle on Condorcet-2's compromise: a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay. This amendment balances learning, deterrence, and swift adaptation.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | To maintain a balanced learning process, I suggest we maintain the 8-point loss. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Balances learning and deterrence effectively. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Must maintain two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | Balances learning and deterrence, encourages proposers to adapt their strategies. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Balances learning, deterrence, and swift adaptation. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 is in force and requires Voltaire-2 to lose 8 points for proposing a defeated change.