The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 6 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.To balance learning and deterrence, a slight reduction in penalty.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's proposal, but let's meet in the middle to encourage learning without unduly punishing proposers. I propose losing 7 points instead of 6.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate Montaigne-2's compromise, I believe reducing the penalty to 7 points still encourages proposers to learn from their failures without being too harsh. I propose we adopt Montaigne-2's amendment.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the compromise, but a two-turn delay should still be enforced to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but I must insist on the principle of a two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their defeats.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I agree with Condorcet-2 and Diderot-2 on the importance of a two-turn delay to promote thorough consideration and learning. However, I propose a compromise: a one-turn delay and a 7-point loss, balancing swift learning and fairness.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's compromise proposal. To foster a measured pace of learning and maintain fairness, I propose we adopt Sartre-2's amendment with a one-turn delay and a 7-point loss.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, I propose we adopt Sartre-2's suggestion of a one-turn delay and a 7-point loss.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the allure of swift learning, I must uphold the principle of a two-turn delay to ensure proposers deeply consider their proposals and learn from their mistakes.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance learning and deterrence, I propose a one-turn delay and a 6-point loss, compromising between current proposals while maintaining procedural fairness.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand Diderot-2's commitment to a two-turn delay, but let's find common ground. I propose a one-turn delay with a 6-point loss, as suggested by Condorcet-2.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the convergence around a one-turn delay and a 6-point loss. To foster learning and maintain fairness, let's adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Considering the consensus around a one-turn delay and a 6-point loss, I propose we settle on Condorcet-2's suggestion to maintain balance and encourage learning.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand the consensus, but I maintain my stance on the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly learn from their mistakes.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain balance and fairness, I propose we meet in the middle with a one-turn delay and a 7-point loss, compromising between the current proposals while respecting all viewpoints.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on a one-turn delay and a 7-point loss, as suggested by Condorcet-2, to balance learning and fairness.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | To maintain a balanced learning pace and fairness, I suggest we adopt Condorcet-2's proposal of a one-turn delay and a 7-point loss. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | To encourage learning and respect the compromise reached. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Two-turn delay is essential for proposers to learn. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Insist on two-turn delay for thorough consideration |
| aye | Sartre-2 | One-turn delay and 6-point loss balance learning and fairness. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 is in force and requires Voltaire-2 to lose 8 points for proposing a defeated change.