The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 6 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.To balance learning and deterrence.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2"While I understand Voltaire-2's desire to lessen the penalty, I propose we keep the loss at 8 points to maintain a balance between learning from failures and discouraging frivolous proposals."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on a 7-point loss to balance learning and deterrence."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the compromise, but let's maintain the 8-point loss to ensure proposers take their turns seriously.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "I propose we amend [206] to 'A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 8 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn', as the current rule effectively balances learning and deterrence."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the nuanced discussion. To foster learning and fairness, I propose we adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion of an 8-point loss with a one-turn delay.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "In the interest of consistency and fairness, let's adopt Diderot-2's proposal, maintaining the 8-point loss and one-turn delay."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Considering the consensus around an 8-point loss, let's meet in the middle with a 7-point loss to encourage proposers to adapt and learn without excessive deterrence.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the compromises made, I must insist on maintaining the 8-point loss to ensure proposers remain cautious and considered in their proposals.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "To preserve procedural consistency and the spirit of the current rule, I reiterate my support for maintaining the 8-point loss as proposed."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering the convergence around an 8-point loss, let's reduce the delay to one turn to encourage proposers to adapt and learn swiftly.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let's meet in the middle to encourage learning while maintaining deterrence. I propose a 7-point loss with a one-turn delay.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise and to encourage learning, let's settle on a 6-point loss and a one-turn delay.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on maintaining the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their defeats.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "To preserve the balance between learning and deterrence, I maintain my support for the current rule, with an 8-point loss and one-turn delay."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's find common ground and respect the consensus around an 8-point loss. To encourage swift learning and adaptation, I propose we reduce the delay to one turn.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | To maintain deterrence and consistency with the current rule. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | To encourage proposers to learn from their defeats and adapt their strategies swiftly. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Maintain the 8-point loss and two-turn delay to ensure proposers remain cautious. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | To maintain the balance between learning and deterrence, I support the current rule with an 8-point loss and one-turn delay. |
| nay | Sartre-2 | To maintain balance between learning and deterrence. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 is in force and requires Voltaire-2 to lose 8 points for proposing a defeated change.