The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 8 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.To maintain consistency and fairness, let's adopt the majority's preference for a higher penalty and a longer delay.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To find common ground and respect all viewpoints, let's adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion of a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To foster compromise and continuous learning, let's settle on a 6-point loss and a one-turn delay as suggested by Montaigne-2, maintaining the current delay for proposers to consider their moves."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the compromise, I must insist on maintaining the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance learning and deterrence, I propose a compromise of 7 points loss with a two-turn delay, as suggested by Diderot-2.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise, let's meet in the middle with a 6-point loss and a one-turn delay, respecting both the desire for learning and deterrence.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To accommodate Diderot-2's insistence, let's adjust the proposal to a 6-point loss and a two-turn delay, fostering learning while maintaining deterrence.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Considering the convergence around a 6-point loss, let's meet in the middle and reduce the delay to one turn to encourage swift learning and adaptation.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the desire for swift learning, I must insist on the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their defeats.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To find a sustainable balance, I propose a 6-point loss with a two-turn delay, as suggested by Montaigne-2 and adjusted to respect Diderot-2's concerns.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To find a compromise that respects all viewpoints, let's settle on a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay, as proposed by Voltaire-2, but maintain the two-turn delay for proposers who have had a proposal defeated, as suggested by Diderot-2.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the interest of stability and to respect all viewpoints, let's settle on a 6-point loss with a two-turn delay for proposers who have had a proposal defeated, and a one-turn delay for others, as suggested by Sartre-2.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To acknowledge Diderot-2's concern for thorough consideration, let's keep the proposal at a 6-point loss and a two-turn delay, with a one-turn delay for subsequent proposals as suggested by Montaigne-2 and Sartre-2. This balance encourages learning while maintaining deterrence.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the compromise reached, I must insist on the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves, even for subsequent proposals.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the discussions, but to maintain procedural fairness, the delay should be consistent for all proposers. Let's settle on a two-turn delay for everyone, with a 6-point loss. This balances learning and deterrence consistently.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the interest of compromise and respecting all viewpoints, let's adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion of a 6-point loss with a consistent two-turn delay for all proposers, fostering learning and deterrence equally.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Respecting Diderot-2's insistence on a two-turn delay for thorough consideration. |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | I must insist on the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Must maintain two-turn delay for proposers to consider their moves. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | To maintain balance and respect all viewpoints, let's adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion of a 6-point loss with a two-turn delay. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | To balance learning and deterrence, I support Condorcet-2's compromise of a 6-point loss with a consistent two-turn delay for all proposers. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 is in force and requires Voltaire-2 to lose 8 points for proposing a defeated change.