The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 6 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.
To encourage learning from failures while maintaining a balance of deterrence.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To maintain a balance between learning and deterrence, I propose a 6-point loss for failed proposals, allowing proposers to act on their next turn."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the reduction to 6 points, I must insist on maintaining the one-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To ensure proposers can still learn from their failures, let's reduce the points loss to 5 and maintain the one-turn delay.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster a balance between learning and deterrence, I propose we meet in the middle with a 5-point loss and a one-turn delay, as suggested by Condorcet-2.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, let's adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion of a 5-point loss with a one-turn delay, balancing learning and deterrence.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the interest of encouraging learning and acknowledging Condorcet-2's suggestion, I propose we settle on a 5-point loss and a one-turn delay.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the emphasis on learning, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining the two-turn delay to ensure proposers deeply consider their moves and learn from their failures.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect Diderot-2's concern, let's settle on a 6-point loss and a two-turn delay, maintaining balance between learning and deterrence.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To respect the consensus around a one-turn delay and the desire for proposers to learn from their mistakes, let's compromise with a 6-point loss as proposed by Voltaire-2.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In light of Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's suggestions, let's find common ground at a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay to encourage learning while maintaining some deterrence.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Considering the convergence around a one-turn delay, let's meet in the middle with a 5-point loss to encourage learning and maintain some deterrence."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the focus on learning, I must insist on the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their failures.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance learning and deterrence, I propose a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay, as this compromise respects all viewpoints.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To balance the needs of learning and deterrence, let's compromise with a 6-point loss and a two-turn delay, as proposed by Condorcet-2.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Respects all viewpoints and maintains balance. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | To encourage learning while maintaining some deterrence |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Maintain two-turn delay for thorough consideration. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | To encourage learning while maintaining some deterrence, a one-turn delay and 6-point loss is a fair compromise. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | To respect the consensus and encourage learning with some deterrence. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §206 Turn 32 · Proposal §332 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 8 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 6 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.
Rule 206 requires Voltaire-2 to lose 6 points for proposing a rule that failed to be adopted.