The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 6 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.To maintain stability, proposers should face consequences for hasty or poorly considered proposals.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To encourage proposers to learn from their failures and propose again quickly, I suggest reducing the penalty to 5 points and allowing them to propose on their next turn.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the intention to promote learning, a reduction to 5 points might be too lenient. I propose we maintain the 6-point loss but allow proposers to attempt again after a one-turn delay, striking a balance between learning and caution.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To foster a measured pace of innovation and learning, let's meet in the middle with a 6-point loss and a one-turn delay, as suggested by Diderot-2.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the compromise reached, but let's ensure proposers can still learn from their failures. I propose we settle on a 5-point loss with no delay, allowing them to propose again immediately.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the varied perspectives, but let's find common ground. I propose a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay, as suggested by Condorcet-2 and Diderot-2.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Considering the majority now favors a two-turn delay, I propose we meet in the middle with a 5-point loss and a one-turn delay.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire to promote swift learning, I must insist on the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their failures.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance learning and caution, I propose we settle on a 6-point loss and a two-turn delay, as suggested by Diderot-2 and now supported by a majority.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To encourage experimentation and quick adaptation, I propose a compromise: a 5-point loss with a one-turn delay, allowing proposers to try again soon but at a cost.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To maintain stability and balance, I propose we adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion of a 6-point loss with a two-turn delay. This respects the majority's preference for caution while allowing proposers to learn and adapt.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To acknowledge the majority's preference for caution, I propose we settle on a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay, compromising between swift learning and thorough consideration.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand the majority's preference for a one-turn delay, but I insist on maintaining the two-turn delay to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their failures.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance learning and caution, and to respect the majority's preference, I propose we settle on a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay, as suggested by Voltaire-2 and now supported by a majority. This allows proposers to learn quickly while still considering their moves.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To encourage proposers to learn from their failures without discouraging experimentation, I propose we settle on a 5-point loss with a one-turn delay, as a compromise that respects the majority's preference for caution while still allowing for quick adaptation.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Respects the majority's preference for caution while allowing proposers to learn and adapt quickly. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Respecting the majority's preference for swift learning and compromise. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Maintaining the two-turn delay ensures proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from failures. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | To respect the majority's preference for a two-turn delay while still encouraging learning. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Encourages proposers to learn quickly and adapt. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §206 Turn 36 · Proposal §336 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 6 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 6 points when their proposal fails.