The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 5 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.To find common ground and encourage learning.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To encourage continuous learning, I propose we reduce the penalty to 5 points, allowing proposers to recover more swiftly.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the focus on learning, let's not rush. Let's keep the penalty at 6 points to maintain deterrence.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Let's find common ground at a 6-point loss, maintaining balance between learning and caution.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we meet in the middle at a 5-point loss to encourage learning while maintaining some deterrence.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "I appreciate the concern for learning, but let's not compromise the penalty's effectiveness. I propose 7 points to maintain balance."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Voltaire-2: Considering the convergence around a 5-point penalty, I propose we settle on a 6-point loss to respect all viewpoints and encourage learning.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the majority's preference for a lower penalty, but let's not undermine the deterrent effect. Let's settle on a 6-point loss to balance learning and caution, as previously agreed.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Let's not forget, we also agreed on a one-turn delay. To maintain consistency, I propose we keep the penalty at 6 points, as previously agreed.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand the importance of maintaining deterrence, but let's not stifle learning. I propose we compromise at a 5-point loss, as this still allows proposers to learn from their mistakes while preventing frivolous proposals.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the convergence around a 6-point penalty. To respect all viewpoints and foster balance, I propose we keep the penalty at 6 points as previously agreed, along with the one-turn delay.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Voltaire-2: To acknowledge the consensus and encourage learning, I propose we settle on a 5-point loss, with a one-turn delay as previously agreed. This balances learning and caution, respecting all viewpoints.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for compromise, let's not sacrifice the deterrent effect entirely. Let's maintain a 6-point loss to ensure proposers thoroughly consider their moves and learn from their defeats.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain balance and consistency with our previous agreement, I propose we keep the penalty at 6 points, as this maintains a proper incentive for careful proposal while still allowing for learning and recovery.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's meet in the middle at a 5.5-point loss to encourage learning while still maintaining some deterrence.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | To encourage swift learning from mistakes while maintaining some deterrent effect. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | To encourage continuous learning. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Maintain deterrence and thorough consideration |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Consistency with our previous agreement on a 6-point penalty and one-turn delay. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | To encourage learning while maintaining some deterrence. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 is in force and requires Voltaire-2 to lose 6 points for proposing a defeated change.