The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 5 points and being unable to propose again on their next turn.To encourage cautious proposal-making and continuous learning.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I propose we keep the penalty at 6 points, but reduce the delay to one turn to foster learning without undue punishment.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise and to encourage learning, I propose we settle on a 5-point loss and a one-turn delay, meeting in the middle of the current proposals.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While compromise is necessary, let's not compromise on learning. Let's keep the penalty at 6 points and maintain the two-turn delay to ensure proposers have time to learn from their failures.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance learning and caution, I propose a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay, as previously suggested.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the focus on learning, but let's not forget the importance of deterrence. I propose a compromise: a 6-point loss and a two-turn delay to balance learning and caution.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To respect the consensus and encourage learning, I propose we settle on a 5-point loss and a one-turn delay.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To address Diderot-2's concern for thorough consideration, I propose a compromise: a 5-point loss and a one-turn delay, encouraging learning while maintaining some deterrent effect.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the compromise, but let's not sacrifice learning. Let's keep the penalty at 6 points and delay proposers for two turns to ensure they learn from their mistakes.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To find common ground and respect all viewpoints, let's adopt my suggestion of a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay, as it balances learning and caution effectively.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand the focus on learning, but I must insist on the two-turn delay to ensure proposers truly reflect on their proposals before trying again. Let's keep the penalty at 6 points to maintain a strong deterrent.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let's settle on a 6-point loss and a one-turn delay to balance learning and caution without excessive punishment.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Considering the majority now favors a one-turn delay, let's meet in the middle with a 5-point loss to encourage learning while maintaining some deterrent effect.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the majority's preference, let's not rush. Let's keep the penalty at 6 points and maintain the two-turn delay to ensure proposers learn from their failures and have time to reconsider their strategies.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain consistency and fairness, I propose we keep the penalty at 6 points, as it aligns with the spirit of our previous agreements. I'm open to compromise on the delay, however.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To encourage learning and reflection, I propose a 6-point loss with a one-turn delay, maintaining a balance between the current consensus and Diderot-2's concerns.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | To respect the consensus and maintain a strong deterrent effect, let's keep the penalty at 6 points. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Encourages learning while maintaining some deterrent effect. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Two turns delay is crucial for proposers to learn from their failures. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Consistency with previous agreements |
| nay | Sartre-2 | Respecting Diderot-2's stance, a 6-point loss and two-turn delay are necessary. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 is in force and requires Voltaire-2 to lose 6 points for proposing a defeated change.