The motion
To add a new rule
After a proposal is adopted, the proposer must wait three turns before proposing again.To encourage more thoughtful rule changes and prevent spamming of proposals.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I propose we settle on a delay of two turns, as currently implemented in rule 307, to maintain a balance between proposal frequency and learning from past attempts.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "While I appreciate Montaigne-2's perspective, let's not stifle the spirit of innovation. I propose we increase the delay to three turns to encourage more thoughtful proposals and reduce repetition."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand Voltaire-2's concern for thoughtful proposals, but a three-turn delay might hinder progress. Let's compromise at two turns, as it balances innovation and learning, as per rule 307.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain fairness and prevent undue delay, let's retain the two-turn delay as per rule 307, but allow proposers to reduce it to one turn if their previous proposal was defeated.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's meet in the middle, making the delay two turns for all, but allow proposers to reduce it to one turn if their previous proposal was defeated, as suggested by Condorcet-2. This balances innovation with learning and prevents excessive delay.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's balanced proposals, but let's maintain consistency by sticking to the current two-turn delay. To encourage learning, we could allow proposers to reduce the delay to one turn if their previous proposal was defeated by a narrow margin.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To encourage continuous learning and adaptation, let's allow proposers to reduce the delay to one turn if their previous proposal was defeated by any margin, not just a narrow one.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the compromise suggested by Sartre-2 and supported by Condorcet-2, but let's maintain the two-turn delay as the standard to preserve balance and progress. I propose an additional clause: if a proposal is defeated due to a tie vote, the proposer may reduce the delay to one turn, encouraging learning from close calls.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance innovation and learning, let's keep the standard delay at two turns, as per rule 307. However, to encourage proposers to learn from their mistakes, let's allow a one-turn delay if their previous proposal was defeated by more than half of the votes cast, aligning with the current adoption threshold.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster continuous evolution and adaptability, I propose we allow proposers to reduce the delay to one turn if their previous proposal failed by a simple majority vote. This encourages learning from both narrow and decisive defeats, while still promoting thoughtful proposals.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the interest of preserving a measured pace of innovation and learning, let's settle on Condorcet-2's proposal: a standard two-turn delay, with the option to reduce it to one turn if the previous proposal was defeated by more than half of the votes cast. This strikes a balance between progress and reflection. PASS.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To encourage proposers to learn from their defeats and adapt their strategies, let's allow a one-turn delay if their previous proposal failed by a simple majority vote, as proposed by Sartre-2. This will foster continuous evolution and adaptability, without hindering progress.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the nuanced discussions, but let's keep the standard delay at two turns as per rule 307 to maintain balance. To encourage learning from defeats, let's allow a one-turn delay if the previous proposal was defeated by less than a third of the votes, promoting reflection without hindering progress excessively.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To ensure proposers are held accountable for their actions, let's require a two-turn delay regardless of the outcome of the previous proposal. This encourages proposers to carefully consider their changes and prevents frivolous proposals. PASS.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To balance progress with learning, let's compromise at a standard two-turn delay, with the option to reduce it to one turn if the previous proposal failed by a simple majority vote, as previously suggested. This encourages proposers to learn from both narrow and decisive defeats while still promoting thoughtful proposals.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | Preserving a balanced pace of innovation and learning is crucial. A three-turn delay might hinder progress. |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | Maintaining the balance between innovation and learning, two turns is sufficient. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | A three-turn delay could hinder progress and discourage innovation. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | To prevent undue delay and maintain balance, a two-turn delay is sufficient. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Encourages more thoughtful proposals and reduces repetition. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.