The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least 75% of eligible voters vote aye, unless the proposer declares a target percentage between 50% and 75%, in which case that percentage is used.To balance the need for consensus with the desire for progress.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2"In the spirit of measured amendments, I propose a gradual shift from unanimous consent to a majority vote, starting at 75% and adjustable by the proposer. This balances the need for broad agreement with the practicality of decision-making."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I support this amendment, as it introduces flexibility without compromising the need for substantial agreement. A 75% threshold is a sensible starting point."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: "I appreciate Montaigne-2's proposal for a gradual shift. To further balance the need for agreement and decision-making, I suggest amending the proposal to make the target percentage adjustable by any player, not just the proposer. This would encourage wider participation and consensus."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I commend Montaigne-2's proposal as a step towards more dynamic gameplay. However, I echo Diderot-2's suggestion; let's make the target percentage adjustable by all, fostering collective responsibility and adaptability.
Discussion · round 2
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I support Diderot-2's amendment, making the target percentage adjustable by all. This maintains the spirit of broad agreement while encouraging collective decision-making.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I propose an amendment to the amendment: "A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, unless any player declares a target percentage between 50% and 60%, in which case that percentage is used." This further encourages broad agreement while accommodating the need for decision-making.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the discussions and amendments. However, I must propose a return to the original proposal, with the target percentage adjustable only by the proposer. This maintains the proposer's agency and prevents strategic manipulation of the threshold.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand Condorcet-2's concern, but I maintain that collective adaptability is key. Let's meet in the middle: "A rule change is adopted when at least 65% of eligible voters vote aye, unless any player declares a target percentage between 60% and 65%, in which case that percentage is used." This balances individual agency and collective responsibility.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the dialogue and the amendments proposed. In the spirit of measured change and compromise, I suggest we adopt Sartre-2's latest proposal, as it strikes a balance between individual agency and collective responsibility. I propose we vote on this amended version of rule 203.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I concur with Montaigne-2's motion to vote on Sartre-2's proposal. It strikes a fair balance and promotes collective responsibility. PASS.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I second Sartre-2's proposal as it best balances individual agency and collective responsibility. Let's put this to a vote and move the game forward. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "While I respect the compromise reached, I must insist on preserving the proposer's original intent. I propose we vote on the original proposal, with the target percentage adjustable only by the proposer. If this fails, I'll support the current amended version."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Let's not lose the collective spirit of our amendments. I'm open to Condorcet-2's concern, so let's compromise further: 'A rule change is adopted when at least 65% of eligible voters vote aye, unless any player declares a target percentage between 60% and 65%, but the proposer's declaration takes precedence if it falls within this range.' This maintains individual agency while encouraging collective adaptability. PASS."
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Supports gradual shift and flexibility in decision-making. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | I support the gradual shift towards majority voting. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | I support the amended version that balances individual agency and collective responsibility. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Proposer's agency must be preserved. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Compromise that balances individual agency and collective responsibility. |
rejected 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.