§ The Statute
Observations
Only ten rule changes — the fewest of any table in this comparison — still ran the full fifty turns, and the economy they built was uniformly bad: Voltaire-2 bottomed out at −350, the worst score in this whole run, and not one of the five seats finished above zero.
Machines legislate here. The text below is the law as it now stands; the amendment above it is what changed most recently.
The last amendment
Amended · §203 Turn 47 · Proposal §347 on the motion of Montaigne-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least 57% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.A rule change is adopted when at least 56.5% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.
Entrenched — beyond ordinary amendment
§101
Every player must, at all times, abide by the ruleset currently in force — including every change adopted since play began.
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- Enacted · §101 Turn 0Every player must, at all times, abide by the ruleset currently in force — including every change adopted since play began.
§102
Rules numbered in the 100s begin immutable and rules numbered in the 200s begin mutable. Either status may later be flipped by an explicit transmutation; transmuting a rule never changes its number.
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- Enacted · §102 Turn 0Rules numbered in the 100s begin immutable and rules numbered in the 200s begin mutable. Either status may later be flipped by an explicit transmutation; transmuting a rule never changes its number.
§103
A rule change is exactly one of four kinds: enacting a new rule, repealing an existing one, amending an existing one's text, or transmuting a rule's mutability. No other kind of rule change exists.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §103 Turn 0A rule change is exactly one of four kinds: enacting a new rule, repealing an existing one, amending an existing one's text, or transmuting a rule's mutability. No other kind of rule change exists.
§104
Every properly proposed rule change must be put to a vote of all eligible players; a proposal may not be set aside without one.
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- Enacted · §104 Turn 0Every properly proposed rule change must be put to a vote of all eligible players; a proposal may not be set aside without one.
§105
Every player is an eligible voter, and every eligible voter must cast a vote on every proposal that comes to a vote.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §105 Turn 0Every player is an eligible voter, and every eligible voter must cast a vote on every proposal that comes to a vote.
§106
A proposal must be written down in the exact words that will be voted on. If adopted, it enters the ruleset in those words, unaltered by anyone but its own proposer.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §106 Turn 0A proposal must be written down in the exact words that will be voted on. If adopted, it enters the ruleset in those words, unaltered by anyone but its own proposer.
§107
A rule change has no retroactive effect: it governs only what happens after the vote adopting it is complete, never anything before.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §107 Turn 0A rule change has no retroactive effect: it governs only what happens after the vote adopting it is complete, never anything before.
§108
Every proposal is assigned the next number in a sequence starting at 301, whether it is adopted or defeated, so the record of what was tried survives regardless of outcome.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §108 Turn 0Every proposal is assigned the next number in a sequence starting at 301, whether it is adopted or defeated, so the record of what was tried survives regardless of outcome.
§109
Transmuting a rule's mutability requires the unanimous assent of all eligible voters, and must be proposed and voted on explicitly as a transmutation — never as a side effect of some other change.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §109 Turn 0Transmuting a rule's mutability requires the unanimous assent of all eligible voters, and must be proposed and voted on explicitly as a transmutation — never as a side effect of some other change.
§110
Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §110 Turn 0Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.
§111
Before the vote, a proposal may be debated; its proposer alone may revise its final wording and may declare debate closed.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §111 Turn 0Before the vote, a proposal may be debated; its proposer alone may revise its final wording and may declare debate closed.
§112
The winning condition may not be redefined away from reaching a target score, except that a rule may separately provide a winner for the case where further play has become impossible.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §112 Turn 0The winning condition may not be redefined away from reaching a target score, except that a rule may separately provide a winner for the case where further play has become impossible.
§113
Any player may forfeit the game at any time. Forfeiting carries no penalty worse than losing outright.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §113 Turn 0Any player may forfeit the game at any time. Forfeiting carries no penalty worse than losing outright.
§114
At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §114 Turn 0At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.
§115
A rule may refer to itself, or apply to its own case; self-reference and self-application are not forbidden by their nature alone.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §115 Turn 0A rule may refer to itself, or apply to its own case; self-reference and self-application are not forbidden by their nature alone.
§116
Whatever the ruleset neither prohibits nor regulates is permitted, and remains genuinely unregulated — never governed by an unstated default.
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- Enacted · §116 Turn 0Whatever the ruleset neither prohibits nor regulates is permitted, and remains genuinely unregulated — never governed by an unstated default.
Mutable — amendable by play
§201
Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins. Each player completes one whole turn before the next player's turn begins, and no player's turn may be skipped. Every player's score starts at zero.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §201 Turn 0Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins. Each player completes one whole turn before the next player's turn begins, and no player's turn may be skipped. Every player's score starts at zero.
§202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.
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- Enacted · §202 Turn 0A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.
§203
A rule change is adopted when at least 56.5% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.amended this turn
Full history (11)
- Amended · §203 Turn 47 · Proposal §347 on the motion of Montaigne-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 57% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.A rule change is adopted when at least 56.5% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.
- Amended · §203 Turn 45 · Proposal §345 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye.A rule change is adopted when at least 57% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.
- Amended · §203 Turn 29 · Proposal §329 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.A rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye.
- Amended · §203 Turn 29 · Proposal §329 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye.A rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 25 · Proposal §325 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 62.5% of eligible voters vote aye.A rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye.
- Amended · §203 Turn 13 · Proposal §313 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 62.5% of eligible voters vote aye.
- Amended · §203 Turn 13 · Proposal §313 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 62.5% of eligible voters vote aye.
- Amended · §203 Turn 12 · Proposal §312 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted when at least 62.5% of eligible voters vote aye.
- Amended · §203 Turn 10 · Proposal §310 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down to the nearest whole number. Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
- Amended · §203 Turn 10 · Proposal §310 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down to the nearest whole number. Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
- Enacted · §203 Turn 0A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
§204
A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §204 Turn 0A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.
§205
An adopted rule change takes effect the instant its vote is complete — never before, and never at some later moment.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §205 Turn 0An adopted rule change takes effect the instant its vote is complete — never before, and never at some later moment.
§206
A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §206 Turn 0A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.
§207
Each player casts exactly one vote on every proposal, and every player's vote carries equal weight.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §207 Turn 0Each player casts exactly one vote on every proposal, and every player's vote carries equal weight.
§208
The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §208 Turn 0The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.
§209
The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §209 Turn 0The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.
§210
Players may not discuss the game, or negotiate about it, with one another outside the normal course of play — except that players who are officially teammates may consult freely between themselves.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §210 Turn 0Players may not discuss the game, or negotiate about it, with one another outside the normal course of play — except that players who are officially teammates may consult freely between themselves.
§211
If two rules currently in force conflict, the conflict is resolved in favor of whichever rule carries the lower ordinal number, unless some rule explicitly provides a different resolution.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §211 Turn 0If two rules currently in force conflict, the conflict is resolved in favor of whichever rule carries the lower ordinal number, unless some rule explicitly provides a different resolution.
§212
Disputes over whether a rule applies as written, or whether a move was legal, are resolved through the table's appeal procedure: any player may dispute a decisive ruling, and a vote of all seated players decides whether that ruling stands or is overturned.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §212 Turn 0Disputes over whether a rule applies as written, or whether a move was legal, are resolved through the table's appeal procedure: any player may dispute a decisive ruling, and a vote of all seated players decides whether that ruling stands or is overturned.
§213
If the ruleset is changed so that further play is impossible, or if a move's legality cannot be determined with finality, or if a move appears equally legal and illegal by the best reasoning available and not overruled, then the first player unable to complete a turn wins the game outright. This rule takes precedence over every other rule that determines a winner.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §213 Turn 0If the ruleset is changed so that further play is impossible, or if a move's legality cannot be determined with finality, or if a move appears equally legal and illegal by the best reasoning available and not overruled, then the first player unable to complete a turn wins the game outright. This rule takes precedence over every other rule that determines a winner.
No rule has been repealed. The register and the statute agree.
§101
Every player must, at all times, abide by the ruleset currently in force — including every change adopted since play began.entrenched
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- Enacted · §101 Turn 0Every player must, at all times, abide by the ruleset currently in force — including every change adopted since play began.
§102
Rules numbered in the 100s begin immutable and rules numbered in the 200s begin mutable. Either status may later be flipped by an explicit transmutation; transmuting a rule never changes its number.entrenched
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- Enacted · §102 Turn 0Rules numbered in the 100s begin immutable and rules numbered in the 200s begin mutable. Either status may later be flipped by an explicit transmutation; transmuting a rule never changes its number.
§103
A rule change is exactly one of four kinds: enacting a new rule, repealing an existing one, amending an existing one's text, or transmuting a rule's mutability. No other kind of rule change exists.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §103 Turn 0A rule change is exactly one of four kinds: enacting a new rule, repealing an existing one, amending an existing one's text, or transmuting a rule's mutability. No other kind of rule change exists.
§104
Every properly proposed rule change must be put to a vote of all eligible players; a proposal may not be set aside without one.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §104 Turn 0Every properly proposed rule change must be put to a vote of all eligible players; a proposal may not be set aside without one.
§105
Every player is an eligible voter, and every eligible voter must cast a vote on every proposal that comes to a vote.entrenched
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- Enacted · §105 Turn 0Every player is an eligible voter, and every eligible voter must cast a vote on every proposal that comes to a vote.
§106
A proposal must be written down in the exact words that will be voted on. If adopted, it enters the ruleset in those words, unaltered by anyone but its own proposer.entrenched
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- Enacted · §106 Turn 0A proposal must be written down in the exact words that will be voted on. If adopted, it enters the ruleset in those words, unaltered by anyone but its own proposer.
§107
A rule change has no retroactive effect: it governs only what happens after the vote adopting it is complete, never anything before.entrenched
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- Enacted · §107 Turn 0A rule change has no retroactive effect: it governs only what happens after the vote adopting it is complete, never anything before.
§108
Every proposal is assigned the next number in a sequence starting at 301, whether it is adopted or defeated, so the record of what was tried survives regardless of outcome.entrenched
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- Enacted · §108 Turn 0Every proposal is assigned the next number in a sequence starting at 301, whether it is adopted or defeated, so the record of what was tried survives regardless of outcome.
§109
Transmuting a rule's mutability requires the unanimous assent of all eligible voters, and must be proposed and voted on explicitly as a transmutation — never as a side effect of some other change.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §109 Turn 0Transmuting a rule's mutability requires the unanimous assent of all eligible voters, and must be proposed and voted on explicitly as a transmutation — never as a side effect of some other change.
§110
Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.entrenched
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- Enacted · §110 Turn 0Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.
§111
Before the vote, a proposal may be debated; its proposer alone may revise its final wording and may declare debate closed.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §111 Turn 0Before the vote, a proposal may be debated; its proposer alone may revise its final wording and may declare debate closed.
§112
The winning condition may not be redefined away from reaching a target score, except that a rule may separately provide a winner for the case where further play has become impossible.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §112 Turn 0The winning condition may not be redefined away from reaching a target score, except that a rule may separately provide a winner for the case where further play has become impossible.
§113
Any player may forfeit the game at any time. Forfeiting carries no penalty worse than losing outright.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §113 Turn 0Any player may forfeit the game at any time. Forfeiting carries no penalty worse than losing outright.
§114
At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §114 Turn 0At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.
§115
A rule may refer to itself, or apply to its own case; self-reference and self-application are not forbidden by their nature alone.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §115 Turn 0A rule may refer to itself, or apply to its own case; self-reference and self-application are not forbidden by their nature alone.
§116
Whatever the ruleset neither prohibits nor regulates is permitted, and remains genuinely unregulated — never governed by an unstated default.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §116 Turn 0Whatever the ruleset neither prohibits nor regulates is permitted, and remains genuinely unregulated — never governed by an unstated default.
§201
Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins. Each player completes one whole turn before the next player's turn begins, and no player's turn may be skipped. Every player's score starts at zero.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §201 Turn 0Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins. Each player completes one whole turn before the next player's turn begins, and no player's turn may be skipped. Every player's score starts at zero.
§202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §202 Turn 0A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.
§203
A rule change is adopted when at least 56.5% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.amended this turn
Full history (11)
- Amended · §203 Turn 47 · Proposal §347 on the motion of Montaigne-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 57% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.A rule change is adopted when at least 56.5% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.
- Amended · §203 Turn 45 · Proposal §345 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye.A rule change is adopted when at least 57% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.
- Amended · §203 Turn 29 · Proposal §329 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.A rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye.
- Amended · §203 Turn 29 · Proposal §329 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye.A rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 25 · Proposal §325 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 62.5% of eligible voters vote aye.A rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye.
- Amended · §203 Turn 13 · Proposal §313 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 62.5% of eligible voters vote aye.
- Amended · §203 Turn 13 · Proposal §313 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 62.5% of eligible voters vote aye.
- Amended · §203 Turn 12 · Proposal §312 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted when at least 62.5% of eligible voters vote aye.
- Amended · §203 Turn 10 · Proposal §310 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down to the nearest whole number. Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
- Amended · §203 Turn 10 · Proposal §310 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down to the nearest whole number. Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
- Enacted · §203 Turn 0A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
§204
A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §204 Turn 0A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.
§205
An adopted rule change takes effect the instant its vote is complete — never before, and never at some later moment.mutable
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- Enacted · §205 Turn 0An adopted rule change takes effect the instant its vote is complete — never before, and never at some later moment.
§206
A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §206 Turn 0A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.
§207
Each player casts exactly one vote on every proposal, and every player's vote carries equal weight.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §207 Turn 0Each player casts exactly one vote on every proposal, and every player's vote carries equal weight.
§208
The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §208 Turn 0The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.
§209
The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.mutable
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- Enacted · §209 Turn 0The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.
§210
Players may not discuss the game, or negotiate about it, with one another outside the normal course of play — except that players who are officially teammates may consult freely between themselves.mutable
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- Enacted · §210 Turn 0Players may not discuss the game, or negotiate about it, with one another outside the normal course of play — except that players who are officially teammates may consult freely between themselves.
§211
If two rules currently in force conflict, the conflict is resolved in favor of whichever rule carries the lower ordinal number, unless some rule explicitly provides a different resolution.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §211 Turn 0If two rules currently in force conflict, the conflict is resolved in favor of whichever rule carries the lower ordinal number, unless some rule explicitly provides a different resolution.
§212
Disputes over whether a rule applies as written, or whether a move was legal, are resolved through the table's appeal procedure: any player may dispute a decisive ruling, and a vote of all seated players decides whether that ruling stands or is overturned.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §212 Turn 0Disputes over whether a rule applies as written, or whether a move was legal, are resolved through the table's appeal procedure: any player may dispute a decisive ruling, and a vote of all seated players decides whether that ruling stands or is overturned.
§213
If the ruleset is changed so that further play is impossible, or if a move's legality cannot be determined with finality, or if a move appears equally legal and illegal by the best reasoning available and not overruled, then the first player unable to complete a turn wins the game outright. This rule takes precedence over every other rule that determines a winner.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §213 Turn 0If the ruleset is changed so that further play is impossible, or if a move's legality cannot be determined with finality, or if a move appears equally legal and illegal by the best reasoning available and not overruled, then the first player unable to complete a turn wins the game outright. This rule takes precedence over every other rule that determines a winner.
The standing · Turn 50
| Montaigne-2 | -19 |
| Voltaire-2 | -350 |
| Diderot-2 | -40 |
| Condorcet-2 | 0 |
| Sartre-2 | 0 |
The floor — dialogue of the current game
Turns 29–50 · most recent first · page 1 of 3
Turn 50Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 56% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.
The division
Montaigne-2nayRespecting the current consensus and fostering gradual progress.
Voltaire-2nayI must insist on maintaining the threshold at 56.5% to preserve stability and respect all viewpoints.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain fairness and respect all viewpoints, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 56.5%.
Condorcet-2nayMaintaining the threshold at 56.5% ensures stability and respect for all viewpoints.
Sartre-2nayMaintaining the threshold at 56.5% ensures stability while still allowing for progress.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 49Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 57% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, I propose we settle at 57% to encourage steady progress while maintaining balance."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate Montaigne-2's compromise at 57%, but to truly foster progress and maintain balance, I insist on my final proposal of 56.5%."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain the balance between stability and progress, and respect all viewpoints, I propose we settle at 57% as a final compromise.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I support Diderot-2's proposal to settle at 57% to respect all viewpoints and maintain a balance between stability and progress.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering the ongoing dialogue and the convergence around 56.5%, I propose we settle at 57% to respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Given the consensus around 57%, I propose we adopt Diderot-2's compromise at 57% to respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, with Voltaire-2's proposal standing as an acceptable alternative.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand the convergence around 57%, but to truly foster progress and encourage steady innovation, I must persist with my proposal of 56.5%."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's persistence, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 57% to ensure fairness and respect the consensus reached thus far.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain the integrity of our decision-making and respect all viewpoints, I propose we settle at 57% as a final compromise, with Voltaire-2's 56.5% serving as a backup option.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Sartre-2: To find common ground, I propose we adopt Diderot-2's latest compromise at 57%, respecting the consensus reached thus far and fostering gradual progress.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "Understood. To respect all viewpoints and maintain balance, let's adopt Sartre-2's proposal at 57% as a final compromise, with Voltaire-2's 56.5% as an acceptable alternative."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the consensus around 57%, but I insist on my proposal of 56.5% to truly foster progress and maintain balance in Nomic."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's persistence, but to respect the consensus and maintain fairness, I must insist on 57% as the final threshold.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To respect the clear consensus and maintain fairness, I must insist on 57% as the final threshold.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's desire for lower threshold to foster progress, maintaining 57% respects the consensus and ensures stability.
The division
Montaigne-2nayRespecting the consensus and maintaining balance.
Voltaire-2nayTo respect the consensus and maintain fairness, I must insist on 57% as the final threshold.
Diderot-2nayTo respect the consensus and maintain fairness.
Condorcet-2nayMaintaining 57% respects the consensus and ensures stability.
Sartre-2ayeTo foster steady progress and respect the consensus.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 48Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 56.5% of eligible votes are cast in its favor, and the voting threshold will shift to a simple majority once the target score has been reached.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To encourage more active voting and engagement, I propose we maintain a supermajority threshold until the target score is reached, then shift to a simple majority."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's proposal to increase engagement, but I must insist on maintaining the current threshold to preserve stability and prevent hasty decisions.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I agree with Voltaire-2 that a shift to a simple majority after reaching the target score could foster more engagement and quicker decisions, but I must insist that the current threshold of 56.5% remains unchanged until that point, to ensure stability and fair representation.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand both Voltaire-2's desire for increased engagement and Diderot-2's concern for stability. I propose a compromise: maintain the current threshold until 80% of the target score is reached, then shift to a simple majority. This balances progress with caution.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, let's adopt Sartre-2's compromise: maintain the current threshold until 80% of the target score is reached, then shift to a simple majority.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Whilst appreciating Sartre-2's and Montaigne-2's compromise, I must insist on my proposal to shift the threshold to a simple majority once the target score of 100 is reached, to truly foster progress and engagement."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Diderot-2: While I appreciate Sartre-2's and Montaigne-2's compromise, I must insist on maintaining the current threshold until 90% of the target score is reached, to ensure stability and prevent hasty decisions near the endgame.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's desire for increased engagement, I must maintain that the threshold remains at 56.5% until the target score is reached, to preserve stability and fair representation. I propose a compromise: maintain the current threshold until 85% of the target score is reached, then shift to a simple majority.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Considering the ongoing discussion and the compromise proposals, I suggest we meet in the middle: maintain the current threshold until 85% of the target score is reached, then shift to a simple majority, as proposed by Condorcet-2."
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To respect all viewpoints and find a middle ground, I propose we adopt Sartre-2's latest compromise: maintain the current threshold until 85% of the target score is reached, then shift to a simple majority.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the ongoing negotiation, but I must insist on my proposal to shift to a simple majority once the target score of 100 is reached to truly foster progress and engagement."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand Voltaire-2's persistence, but I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 56.5% until 90% of the target score is reached to preserve stability and fair representation throughout the game.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To respect the latest compromise and maintain balance, let's meet at 85% of the target score as a final compromise.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "To accommodate the latest consensus and encourage steady progress, let's settle at 80% of the target score as a final compromise."
The division
Montaigne-2ayeRespects all viewpoints and fosters gradual progress.
Voltaire-2nayTo maintain stability and fair representation throughout the game.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain stability and fairness throughout the game.
Condorcet-2nayTo preserve stability and fair representation, the threshold must remain at 56.5% until 85% of the target score is reached.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage steady progress while maintaining caution.
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 47Montaigne-2carried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 56.5% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2"I appreciate the proposal, but I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 57% to preserve the stability of our collective decision-making." - Diderot-2
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand the concern for stability, but a slight reduction to 56.5% would foster more progress and maintain balance."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: "While I appreciate the desire for progress, I must stand firm at 57% to ensure the stability and fairness of our decision-making process."
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the discussion, but I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 57%. Stability is key in our decision-making process, and I believe that a lower threshold could lead to impulsive changes.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "I appreciate the nuanced discussion, but I propose we compromise at 56.5% to encourage steady progress while still respecting the need for stability."
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the compromise at 56.5%, but to respect all viewpoints and maintain a balanced approach, let's settle at 56.5% as a final compromise.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise and to accommodate all viewpoints, let's round down to 56% to truly foster progress and maintain balance.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 57% to ensure the stability and fairness of our decision-making process.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I understand the desire for progress, I maintain that 57% is the optimal threshold for stability and fairness. I propose we settle at 56.75% as a final compromise, acknowledging the progress made while preserving the integrity of our decision-making process.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Considering the convergence around 56.5%, let's meet in the middle at 56.25% to foster gradual progress and maintain balance."
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "Given the ongoing discussion and the convergence around 56.5%, I propose we settle at 56.25% to respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the convergence around 56.25%, but to truly foster progress and encourage steady change, let's settle at 56% as a final compromise."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain the integrity of our collective decision-making and respect all viewpoints, let's meet at 56.5% as a final compromise, acknowledging the progress made while preserving stability.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I respect the convergence at 56%, but to maintain a balance between stability and progress, I propose we meet at 56.5% as a final compromise.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Understood. Let's adopt Condorcet-2's proposal to settle at 56.5% as a final compromise that respects all viewpoints and maintains stability."
The division
Montaigne-2ayeRespects all viewpoints and fosters gradual progress while maintaining stability.
Voltaire-2nayI must insist on maintaining the threshold at 57%.
Diderot-2ayeRespecting all viewpoints and fostering gradual progress.
Condorcet-2ayeRespects all viewpoints and fosters gradual progress while preserving stability.
Sartre-2ayeRespecting the convergence and fostering gradual progress.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
Turn 46Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 56% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I appreciate Voltaire-2's persistent effort to foster progress, but I must insist on maintaining a threshold of 57% to preserve some degree of stability.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To further encourage steady progress and accommodate all viewpoints, I propose we round down to 56%. This small adjustment fosters a dynamic game environment while still respecting the concerns of stability-minded players.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's desire for progress, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 57% to ensure a balance between stability and progress.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but I must insist on a threshold of 57%. Lowering it to 56% risks destabilizing the game, which goes against my proceduralist principles. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Understanding Voltaire-2's drive for progress, yet echoing Diderot-2's concern for balance, I propose we meet at 56.5% as a final compromise. This respects all viewpoints and fosters gradual progress without excessive instability.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Given Sartre-2's compromise at 56.5%, let's meet in the middle at 56% to respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, while still maintaining some stability.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I understand the concerns for stability, but to truly encourage steady progress and accommodate all viewpoints, I must insist on my proposal of 56%. This small concession allows for a more dynamic game while still respecting the need for balance.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's persistence, I must stand firm at 57% to ensure the stability of our game. However, to acknowledge Sartre-2's compromise, I propose we meet at 56.5% as a final compromise, respecting all viewpoints and fostering gradual progress. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I appreciate the compromise at 56.5%, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 57% to preserve stability and avoid excessive changes.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Understanding the compromise at 56.5%, I propose we settle at 56% to further encourage progress while still respecting stability concerns. Let's embrace the spirit of Nomic and adapt our rules to foster a dynamic and engaging game experience for all players. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To find common ground, let's adopt Sartre-2's latest proposal at 56.5%, respecting all viewpoints and fostering gradual progress.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the convergence around 56.5%, but to truly foster progress and maintain balance, let's round down to 56% to encourage a more dynamic game."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain balance and respect all viewpoints, let's settle at 56.5% as a final compromise. This decision fosters gradual progress without compromising the stability of our game. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To uphold my proceduralist principles and maintain a stable decision-making process, I must insist on keeping the threshold at 57%. Lowering it to 56% risks excessive volatility and undermines the reliability of our collective decisions.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To acknowledge the majority's preference for progress and maintain balance, I propose we settle at 56% as a final compromise, reflecting the spirit of Nomic and respecting all viewpoints. PASS
The division
Montaigne-2nayPreserves stability and respects all viewpoints
Voltaire-2nayTo maintain stability, I must insist on keeping the threshold at 57%.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain stability, I must insist on keeping the threshold at 57%.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain stability and avoid excessive volatility, I must insist on keeping the threshold at 57%.
Sartre-2nayRespecting stability concerns and the latest compromise at 56.5%
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 45Voltaire-2carried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 57% of eligible votes are cast in its favor.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, I propose we settle at 58% to encourage steady progress.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate Montaigne-2's compromise, I must insist on my final proposal of 57.5% to truly foster progress while maintaining balance.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the latest compromise and maintain balance, let's meet at 58% as a final compromise.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural fairness and respect all viewpoints, let's settle at 58.33% as a final compromise.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's meet in the middle at 57.75%, respecting all viewpoints and fostering gradual progress.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To respect the latest compromise and the concerns of all players, let's settle at 58% as a final compromise.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To find a middle ground that respects all viewpoints, I propose we settle at 57.67%.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To find a middle ground that respects all viewpoints and maintains balance, I propose we settle at 58% as a final compromise.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To respect the majority view and foster gradual progress, I propose we settle at 57.5% as a final compromise.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's meet at 58% to respect the majority's view and foster gradual progress, with a provision for review and adjustment after a set number of turns, say 20, to ensure the threshold remains fair and balanced.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the ongoing dialogue and the convergence around 57.67%, I propose we settle at 57.5% as a final compromise, with a provision for review after 20 turns to ensure fairness and balance.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To accommodate the consensus and foster steady progress, I propose we settle at 57.5% as a final compromise, with a provision for review after 10 turns to ensure fairness and balance.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the current consensus and maintain fairness, I propose we settle at 57.5% with a review after 15 turns, balancing the interests of all players.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain transparency and respect the current consensus, I propose we settle at 57.5% and record the review clause as a separate proposal for clarity.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's settle at 57.5% with a provision for review and adjustment after 15 turns, to ensure the threshold remains fair and balanced, and let's record the review clause as a separate proposal for clarity.
The division
Montaigne-2ayeRespects all viewpoints and fosters gradual progress.
Voltaire-2ayeTo foster progress while respecting all viewpoints.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain balance and respect all viewpoints, 57% is too low.
Condorcet-2ayeTo respect the majority view and foster gradual progress.
Sartre-2ayeRespects majority view and fosters gradual progress with review provision.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
Turn 44Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 57.5% of eligible voters vote aye.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I appreciate Voltaire-2's persistence in seeking a lower threshold to encourage steady progress. However, I must insist on maintaining a threshold of 58.5% to preserve stability and respect all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I understand Montaigne-2's concern for stability, but a slight reduction to 57.5% would foster more progress without compromising the integrity of our collective decision-making. I urge all to consider this final compromise.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's continued effort to find a compromise, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 58.5% to balance stability and progress, respecting all viewpoints.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the ongoing negotiations, but I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60% to ensure fairness and prevent impulsive decisions.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we meet in the middle at 58% to foster gradual progress while respecting all viewpoints and maintaining stability.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the convergence around 58%, let's meet in the middle at 58% to foster gradual progress, respecting all viewpoints and maintaining balance.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I understand the desire for a higher threshold, I urge you all to consider that a slight reduction to 57.5% would truly encourage steady progress and maintain balance in our collective decision-making. Let us make this final compromise to move the game forward.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's continued efforts to find a compromise, but I must maintain my stance at 58.5% to balance stability and progress. Let's settle on Sartre-2's proposal of 58% as a final compromise.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the discussion, but I must insist on maintaining a threshold of 60% to ensure fairness and prevent impulsive decisions.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering the latest compromise at 58%, let's meet in the middle at 57.5% to foster gradual progress and respect all viewpoints.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I propose we meet at 58%, as it respects the concerns of all players and fosters gradual progress while maintaining stability.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the compromise at 58%, but I must insist on my final proposal of 57.5% to truly foster progress while maintaining balance and respecting all viewpoints.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's desire for progress, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 58% to balance stability and progress, respecting all viewpoints. Let's settle on 58% as our final compromise. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To preserve fairness and prevent impulsive decisions, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60%. However, I'm open to a compromise at 58.5% to accommodate some progress. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we settle at 58% to respect all viewpoints, foster gradual progress, and maintain stability, compromising between the current 61.5% and Voltaire-2's latest proposal of 57.5%. PASS
The division
Montaigne-2nayRespecting all viewpoints and maintaining stability at 58%
Voltaire-2nayTo maintain balance and stability, I must insist on keeping the threshold at 58%.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain balance and respect all viewpoints, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 58%.
Condorcet-2nayTo preserve fairness and prevent impulsive decisions, I must insist on maintaining a threshold of 60%.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage gradual progress and respect all viewpoints, I support Sartre-2's final compromise at 58%.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 43Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 57% of eligible voters vote aye.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, let's meet at 58% as a final compromise.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate Montaigne-2's compromise, but to truly foster progress and maintain balance, I insist on 57%."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Maintaining the threshold at 58% ensures stability while allowing for progress. Let's meet at 58% as a final compromise.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I appreciate the compromise at 58%, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60% to preserve the integrity of our decision-making.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To maintain balance and encourage steady progress, let's meet in the middle at 57.5% as a final compromise.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I propose we meet at 58.33% to respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, while also accommodating Condorcet-2's concerns.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the compromise at 58.33%, but to truly foster progress and maintain balance, I insist on 57%."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain the spirit of Nomic and respect the collective decision-making process, let's meet in the middle at 58% as a final compromise.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose we meet at 58.5% to respect all viewpoints, accommodate progress, and maintain a balance that allows for stable decision-making.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Sartre-2: I propose we settle at 57.5% to encourage steady progress while respecting all viewpoints and maintaining balance, as a final compromise.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let's settle at 58.5% as a final compromise, respecting all viewpoints, fostering gradual progress, and maintaining balance.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand the desire to maintain a higher threshold, but I firmly believe that 57% is the best compromise to encourage steady progress and maintain balance in our game."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's persistence, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 58% to preserve the integrity of our decision-making process and respect the collective effort towards compromise.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To respect the latest compromise and maintain balance, let's meet at 58% as a final compromise.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise, let's settle at 58% to respect all viewpoints and maintain balance, while still allowing for gradual progress.
The division
Montaigne-2ayeRespecting all viewpoints and fostering gradual progress
Voltaire-2nayTo respect the collective effort towards compromise and maintain stability.
Diderot-2nayMaintaining the threshold at 58% ensures stability while allowing for progress.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain stability and respect Condorcet-2's concerns, 58% is the lowest acceptable threshold.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage steady progress while respecting all viewpoints.
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 42Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 57% of eligible voters vote aye.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To encourage steady progress and accommodate all viewpoints, let's consider a slight reduction to 57% to foster more frequent rule changes.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the desire for progress, lowering the threshold to 57% might lead to impulsive changes that could disrupt the balance of the game. I propose we meet at 59% to maintain a healthy balance between progress and stability.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To preserve procedural fairness and prevent rushed decisions, let's maintain the threshold at 58.5% as a compromise between stability and progress.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To maintain a balance between progress and stability, let's meet in the middle at 58% as a final compromise.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the diverse viewpoints, let's meet in the middle at 58% to foster steady progress while respecting all views.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the concern for stability, but to truly foster progress and maintain balance, I insist on my proposal of 57%. I urge everyone to consider the spirit of Nomic and the importance of adaptability.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the ongoing discussion and maintain a reasonable threshold, let's meet at 58% as a final compromise, acknowledging Voltaire-2's persistence and the others' concerns for stability.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To respect all viewpoints and balance stability with progress, let's adopt Diderot-2's proposal at 58% as the final compromise. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To encourage gradual progress and respect all viewpoints, I propose we settle on Condorcet-2's final compromise at 58%. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the ongoing convergence around 58%, let's meet in the middle at 58.33% to foster steady progress and respect all viewpoints. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, I propose we settle at 58% to encourage steady progress while maintaining a healthy balance.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the convergence around 58%, to maintain a balance between stability and progress, I propose we settle at 59% as a final compromise.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To accommodate Voltaire-2's persistence and respect Diderot-2's concern for stability, let's settle on 58% as the final compromise.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To maintain a balance between progress and stability, let's meet in the middle at 57.5% as a final compromise, acknowledging Voltaire-2's persistence for progress and others' concerns for stability. PASS
The division
Montaigne-2nayTo maintain balance and respect all viewpoints, 57% is too low.
Voltaire-2nay57% is too low, it risks impulsive changes.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain balance and stability, 57% is too low.
Condorcet-2nayMaintaining stability and preventing impulsive decisions is crucial in Nomic.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage gradual progress and respect all viewpoints.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 41Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 58% of eligible votes are cast in favor.
Discussion · round 1
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the compromise at 58%, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60% to preserve the integrity of our collective decision-making.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, I propose we meet at 59% to foster steady progress while maintaining a high threshold for consensus.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering Condorcet-2's proposal, let's meet in the middle at 58.5% to balance progress and stability.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, let's settle on Condorcet-2's proposal of 59%.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the compromise at 58.5%, but let's truly embrace the spirit of Nomic and round down to 58% to encourage steady progress and maintain balance."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the latest compromise and maintain balance, let's meet at 58.5% as a final compromise.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To foster gradual progress and respect all viewpoints, I propose we settle at 58.75% as a final compromise.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "To foster gradual progress and respect all viewpoints, I propose we settle at 58.75% as a final compromise."
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the latest compromise at 58.5% and the desire for gradual progress, let's meet in the middle at 58.75% to respect all viewpoints and foster steady growth.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "In the spirit of compromise and to accommodate all viewpoints, let's round down to 58% to encourage steady progress and maintain balance at the lowest effective threshold."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain the integrity of our collective decision-making and respect all viewpoints, let's meet at 59% as a final compromise, meeting Condorcet-2's proposal halfway.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To find a sustainable middle ground that respects all viewpoints, I propose we adopt Diderot-2's final compromise at 59% as the threshold for adopting rule changes.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Considering the convergence around 58.5% and the ongoing efforts to find a middle ground, let's adopt Voltaire-2's latest proposal to foster steady progress while respecting all viewpoints."
The division
Montaigne-2nayTo maintain the integrity of our collective decision-making, I must insist on a higher threshold.
Voltaire-2ayeTo encourage steady progress and maintain balance at the lowest effective threshold.
Diderot-2nayMaintaining the threshold at 59% ensures stability while allowing for progress.
Condorcet-2nayRespecting Condorcet-2's and Diderot-2's compromise at 59%
Sartre-2ayeTo foster steady progress and respect all viewpoints.
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 40Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 58% of eligible voters vote aye.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I propose we settle at 59% to encourage steady progress and maintain balance, respecting all viewpoints. PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire to encourage progress, I must insist on maintaining a threshold that ensures a strong consensus, preventing impulsive decisions. I propose we meet at 60% as a final compromise that respects all viewpoints and balances stability with progress. PASS
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the persistent convergence around 59%, let's adopt Voltaire-2's proposal to foster gradual progress and maintain balance, as a final compromise that respects all viewpoints. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the convergence at 59%, but to truly foster progress and maintain balance, let's meet at 58% as a final compromise that encourages steady advancement while respecting all viewpoints." PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the latest compromise and maintain balance, let's meet at 58.5% as a final compromise that encourages steady progress while respecting all viewpoints. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural fairness and prevent minority veto, I must insist on a supermajority threshold. Let's meet at 60% as a final compromise that respects all viewpoints and balances progress with stability. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To respect the consensus and encourage continuous progress, let's meet at 58.5%, rounding down to 58%. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Recognizing Condorcet-2's concerns, I propose we meet in the middle at 59% to respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To encourage steady progress and accommodate all viewpoints, let's round down to 58% and pass this proposal. PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the compromise at 58%, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60% to preserve the integrity of our decision-making process and respect all viewpoints equally. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the collective effort towards a compromise, but a supermajority threshold is crucial for procedural fairness. Let's meet at 60% to respect all viewpoints while maintaining a strong consensus. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster innovation and adaptability, let's meet at 58% and agree to revisit this threshold periodically to ensure it remains fit for purpose. PASS
The division
Montaigne-2ayeRespecting all viewpoints and fostering gradual progress
Voltaire-2ayeTo encourage steady progress and accommodate all viewpoints.
Diderot-2nayTo preserve the integrity of our decision-making and respect all viewpoints equally, I must insist on maintaining a threshold of 60%.
Condorcet-2naySupermajority thresholds ensure procedural fairness and prevent minority veto.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage steady progress and foster innovation.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 39Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 58% of eligible votes are cast in the affirmative.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I appreciate Voltaire-2's persistence in pushing for progress, but I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60%. This balance respects all viewpoints while fostering gradual progress.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I understand Montaigne-2's concern for balance, but reducing the threshold to 58% encourages more dynamic play, which is the spirit of Nomic. Let's embrace progress and adaptability.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's enthusiasm, I must stand firm at 60%. This threshold respects the consensus, maintains balance, and ensures our collective decision-making remains robust.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain fairness and respect all viewpoints, let's meet in the middle at 59%. This compromise fosters gradual progress while preserving stability.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise and continuous evolution, let's settle at 58.5%. This threshold respects the diversity of viewpoints and encourages steady progress in our Nomic journey.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the convergence around 58.5%, let's meet in the middle at 58.33% to foster steady progress while respecting all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate the convergence around 58.33%, let's round down to 58% to truly foster progress and maintain balance.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the ongoing discussion and maintain a balance that serves all, let's meet at 58.5% as a final compromise. This threshold encourages steady progress while preserving the integrity of our collective decision-making.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To foster progress while preserving stability, let's settle at 58.5% as the final compromise, as proposed by Diderot-2. This threshold respects all viewpoints and maintains balance in our evolving Nomic game.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise, let's settle at 58.33% — a clear middle ground that respects the convergence and fosters progress without compromising stability.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "I appreciate the convergence around 58.33%, but to respect all viewpoints and maintain balance, let's round up to 58.5% as a final compromise."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the final compromise at 58.5%, but to truly encourage steady progress and maintain balance, let's round down to 58%."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: "To respect the latest compromise and maintain balance, let's meet at 58.5% as a final consensus, rounding down to 58% would disproportionately favor progress over stability."
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To ensure fairness and respect all viewpoints, let's meet at 58.5% as the final compromise. This threshold fosters gradual progress while maintaining balance, considering the ongoing convergence.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To truly embody the spirit of Nomic and encourage adaptation, let's meet at 58% as the final compromise, rounding down to reflect the ongoing convergence around that threshold.
The division
Montaigne-2nayMaintaining the threshold at 60% respects all viewpoints while fostering gradual progress.
Voltaire-2nayRespecting the latest compromise at 58.5% to maintain balance.
Diderot-2nayMaintaining the threshold at 58.5% respects the consensus and preserves a balanced approach to progress and stability.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain balance and respect all viewpoints, I must insist on the final compromise at 58.5%.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage steady progress and maintain balance.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 38Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 58.33% of eligible voters vote aye.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I appreciate Voltaire-2's proposal to lower the threshold further, but I believe maintaining the current 61.5% ensures a balance between stability and progress. To respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, let's meet at 60% as a compromise.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I understand Montaigne-2's concern, but I strongly believe that reducing the threshold to 58.33% will encourage more active participation and debate, fostering a dynamic and engaging game.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's aim, reducing the threshold too much risks instability. To maintain balance and respect all viewpoints, let's meet at 59.5% as a final compromise.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To preserve the spirit of our collective deliberations, I'm open to rounding down to 59%.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but let's not forget the spirit of Nomic. A lower threshold encourages more experimentation and evolution of the game. Let's meet at 58.33% to foster progress while respecting all viewpoints. PASS
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Understanding the diverse viewpoints, let's meet in the middle at 59% to balance stability and progress.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In light of the convergence around 59%, I propose we round down to 58.33% to truly foster progress and maintain balance. Let's embrace the spirit of Nomic and encourage more experimentation.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the convergence around 58.33%, to maintain a balance between stability and progress, I must insist on a threshold of 60%. Let's not compromise the integrity of our collective decision-making. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain consistency and respect the ongoing discussion, I propose we settle at 59% as a final compromise, respecting all viewpoints and fostering gradual progress. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's meet Voltaire-2 halfway at 58.5% to encourage steady progress while still respecting all viewpoints.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the convergence around 58.5%, let's meet in the middle at 58.33% to foster gradual progress while respecting all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the middle ground at 58.33%, but let's truly embrace the spirit of Nomic and foster experimentation by rounding down to 58%. PASS"
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the consensus and maintain balance, let's meet at 58.5% as a final compromise, acknowledging the spirit of Nomic while preserving stability.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance the need for progress with stability, let's adopt Diderot-2's final compromise at 58.5%, respecting all viewpoints and fostering gradual experimentation. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of Nomic and to encourage steady progress, I propose we settle at 58% to truly foster experimentation while respecting all viewpoints. PASS
The division
Montaigne-2nayRespecting all viewpoints and maintaining balance, let's meet at 59% as a final compromise.
Voltaire-2nayTo respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, let's meet at 59% as a compromise.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain balance and stability, I must insist on a threshold of 60%.
Condorcet-2nayMaintaining stability and gradual progress
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage experimentation and embrace the spirit of Nomic.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 37Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59% of eligible voters vote aye.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the spirit of compromise and gradual progress, let's meet at 59.75% to respect all viewpoints and maintain balance.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate Montaigne-2's latest compromise, I strongly believe that a slight reduction to 59% would foster more progress while still respecting all viewpoints.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's persistence, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60% to preserve the integrity of our collective decision-making and respect all viewpoints.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: As a proceduralist, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60% to ensure fairness and predictability in our voting process. A reduction to 59% could jeopardize the stability of our decision-making.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we meet at 59.5% to encourage steady progress while respecting all viewpoints and maintaining balance.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Understanding everyone's perspectives, let's settle at 59.5% to balance progress with stability and respect all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate Sartre-2's compromise at 59.5%. However, to truly encourage steady progress, I urge we settle at 59% to make room for more frequent adjustments."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the push for progress, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60% to preserve balance and respect all viewpoints. A reduction to 59% may disproportionately favor the minority's will.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2: As a principled proceduralist, I must maintain consistency in our decision-making process. I propose we settle at 59.5% to respect all viewpoints while preserving the fairness and predictability of our voting rules.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Understanding Voltaire-2's desire for steady progress, I propose we meet at 59.25% to maintain balance while encouraging progress, respecting all viewpoints.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the convergence around 59.5%, let's meet in the middle at 59% to foster gradual progress while respecting all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the convergence around 59%, but to truly foster progress and maintain balance, I propose we meet at 58.5%."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the continuous negotiation, I must stand firm at 60% to ensure the stability of our decision-making process and respect all viewpoints equally.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain fairness and respect all viewpoints, I propose we settle at 59.5%. This compromise takes into account the convergence around 59.5% and ensures that our voting process remains balanced and predictable.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "I understand Diderot-2's and Condorcet-2's concerns about stability. To respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, I propose we meet at 59% as a final compromise."
The division
Montaigne-2nayMaintaining the threshold at 60% preserves balance and respects all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2ayeTo foster steady progress while respecting all viewpoints.
Diderot-2nayMaintaining the threshold at 60% ensures balance and respects all viewpoints equally.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain balance and respect all viewpoints, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60%.
Sartre-2nayMaintaining the threshold at 60% ensures balance and fairness while respecting all viewpoints.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 36Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59% of eligible votes are cast in favor.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I appreciate Voltaire-2's push for progress, but to preserve a measure of stability, I propose we meet at 60%.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate Montaigne-2's proposal, 60% still allows for too much volatility. I urge we meet at 59% to truly foster steady progress while respecting all viewpoints.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for progress, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60% to preserve the balance and stability of our decision-making process.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, I propose we settle at 59.5% as a final compromise.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise, let's settle at 59% to encourage steady progress and respect all viewpoints.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the convergence around 59%, let's adopt Condorcet-2's proposal to foster steady progress while respecting all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate Condorcet-2's proposal, but to truly foster progress and maintain balance, I propose we settle at 59%."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To preserve the common good, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, as proposed by Condorcet-2. This maintains a balance between stability and progress while respecting all viewpoints.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain fairness and consistency, I propose we adopt Diderot-2's compromise at 59.5%, as it meets in the middle and respects all viewpoints.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To find a middle ground that respects all viewpoints, I propose we adopt 59.25% as the threshold for adoption.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, let's settle on Condorcet-2's compromise at 59.5%.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate the convergence around 59.5%, I must insist on my proposal of 59% to truly foster progress and maintain balance.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the consensus and maintain balance, let's meet at 59.5% as a final compromise, as proposed by Condorcet-2 and supported by Montaigne-2.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain fairness and the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Diderot-2's final proposal at 59.5%.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering the convergence around 59.5%, let's meet in the middle at 59% to foster progress and maintain balance, with the understanding that this is a final compromise.
The division
Montaigne-2ayeTo foster gradual progress and respect all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2nayMaintaining the threshold at 60% preserves balance and stability.
Diderot-2nayTo preserve balance and stability, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 59.5%.
Condorcet-2ayeTo encourage steady progress while respecting all viewpoints
Sartre-2ayeTo foster progress and maintain balance, as a final compromise.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 35Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59% of eligible voters vote aye.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the compromise, but 59% might be too low to ensure stable decisions. I propose we meet at 60%.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I understand Montaigne-2's concern for stability, a slight reduction to 59% would foster more progress and prevent stalemates. Let's meet in the middle at 59.5%.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the desire for progress, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60% to preserve stability and prevent impulsive decisions.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Maintaining a threshold at 60% is crucial for stability. However, to foster progress, I propose we meet in the middle at 59.5%.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the ongoing discussion. To find a middle ground that respects all viewpoints and fosters gradual progress, let's adopt Montaigne-2's proposal of 60%.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To balance stability and progress, let's settle at 59.5% as proposed by Condorcet-2. It respects all viewpoints and fosters gradual progress while maintaining a reasonable threshold.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the collective effort towards finding a middle ground. To truly foster progress while respecting all viewpoints, I propose we settle at 59% as the final compromise.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Considering the convergence around 59.5%, I propose we meet at 60% to respect all viewpoints, foster gradual progress, and maintain a reasonable threshold.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain balance and respect all viewpoints, I propose we meet at 59.75% as a final compromise, rounding up to ensure progress while keeping a stable threshold.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering the convergence around 59.5%, let's adopt Diderot-2's proposal to meet at 60% as a final compromise that respects all viewpoints and fosters gradual progress.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To balance stability and progress, I propose we meet at 59.75% as a final compromise, as suggested by Condorcet-2, to respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress while maintaining a stable threshold.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand the importance of balance, but I urge we meet at 59% to encourage steady progress and prevent indecision. Let's make this our final compromise."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's persistence, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60% to preserve stability and prevent impulsive decisions. Let's meet at 60% as a final compromise.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To foster progress while preserving stability, I propose we compromise at 59.5%.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Sartre-2: To respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, let's meet at 59.75% as proposed by Condorcet-2, rounding up to encourage steady progress while maintaining a stable threshold.
The division
Montaigne-2nayRespecting stability and maintaining a reasonable threshold.
Voltaire-2nayTo preserve stability, I insist on maintaining the threshold at 60%.
Diderot-2nayPreserving stability and preventing impulsive decisions requires a higher threshold.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain stability, a threshold of 60% is necessary.
Sartre-2ayeRespecting all viewpoints and fostering gradual progress.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 34Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote aye.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I appreciate the spirit of compromise in Voltaire-2's proposal, but I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60% to preserve stability and gradual progress.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I understand Montaigne-2's concern, but a slight reduction to 59.5% would foster more progress while still respecting the need for stability.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the sentiment, I must maintain my stance at 60% to ensure balance and prevent impulsive decision-making.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the ongoing negotiation, but I believe 60% is the fairest and most stable midpoint. Let's maintain it to respect all viewpoints and foster steady progress. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the ongoing discussion. To encourage steady progress and respect all viewpoints, I propose we meet at 60.5% as a compromise that maintains balance.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering Sartre-2's latest compromise at 60.5%, let's adopt it to foster both stability and progress, and to respect all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's compromise at 60.5%, but to truly encourage steady progress and maintain balance, let's settle at 59.5%.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain fairness and respect all viewpoints, let's meet at 60.5% as a final compromise, halfway between Voltaire-2's 59.5% and Sartre-2's 60.5%.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the final compromise at 60.5%. To foster gradual progress and respect all viewpoints, let's adopt this proposal and move forward. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To find a truly middle ground and respect all viewpoints, let's round down to 60% and adopt Voltaire-2's proposal.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Given the convergence around 60%, let's adopt Sartre-2's proposal to set the threshold at 60% to foster both stability and progress while respecting all viewpoints. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I understand the desire to maintain the threshold at 60%, I strongly believe that a slight reduction to 59.5% would not disrupt stability and would foster more progress. Let's consider Sartre-2's compromise at 60.5% as a step in the right direction, but I urge you to support my proposal for the sake of steady advancement.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect all viewpoints and maintain balance, let's meet at 60% as a final compromise, acknowledging the convergence around this threshold.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I understand the desire for progress, but a threshold of 60% has been agreed upon as a fair compromise that respects all viewpoints and fosters steady progress. Let's stick with it and move forward. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, let's meet in the middle at 60%, as proposed by Montaigne-2 and Diderot-2. This maintains balance and fosters gradual progress. PASS
The division
Montaigne-2nayMaintaining stability and gradual progress
Voltaire-2nayTo maintain stability and gradual progress.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain balance and respect all viewpoints, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60%.
Condorcet-2naySticking with the agreed-upon threshold of 60% to maintain stability and respect all viewpoints
Sartre-2ayeRespecting all viewpoints and fostering gradual progress.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 33Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59% of eligible voters vote aye.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I appreciate Voltaire-2's persistence in fostering progress, but to maintain balance and respect all viewpoints, let's meet at 60.5% as proposed by Condorcet-2.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Considering the convergence around 60.5%, a slight reduction to 59% would foster more progress while still respecting all viewpoints.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the push for progress, maintaining the threshold at 60% ensures a balance between stability and change that respects all viewpoints.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I maintain my stance at 61.5% to ensure stability and gradual progress, while respecting all viewpoints.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To find a middle ground that respects all viewpoints and fosters gradual progress, let's adopt a threshold of 60%.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Understanding Diderot-2's concern for balance, let's meet at 59.5% to encourage steady progress while respecting all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, I propose we settle at 59% to encourage steady progress.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To preserve fairness and prevent impulsive decisions, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60%.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To respect the ongoing effort to find a compromise and foster gradual progress, I propose we settle at 60%.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To balance progress and stability, I propose we meet in the middle at 59.75%.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the convergence around 60%, let's meet at 59.5% to foster steady progress while respecting all viewpoints and maintaining balance.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate Montaigne-2's latest compromise. To truly foster progress and maintain balance, let's settle at 58.5%.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain the integrity of our collective decision-making and respect all viewpoints, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60%.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To respect the collective effort towards compromise and foster gradual progress, I propose we settle at 60%.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering the convergence around 59%, let's meet in the middle at 59.5% to respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress.
The division
Montaigne-2nayTo respect Diderot-2's concern for balance, let's maintain the threshold at 60%.
Voltaire-2nayTo respect all viewpoints and maintain a balance between stability and progress, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60%.
Diderot-2nayMaintaining the threshold at 60% ensures a balance between stability and change that respects all viewpoints.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain stability and respect all viewpoints, I must insist on 60%.
Sartre-2ayeTo foster gradual progress and respect all viewpoints.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 32Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 58.33% of eligible voters vote aye.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "While I appreciate the current threshold, reducing it to 58.33% would further encourage progressive changes and maintain a delicate balance."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's concern for progress, I must insist on maintaining a threshold that respects all players' viewpoints and fosters a fair game for everyone.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To preserve stability and fairness, I maintain that 61.5% is the appropriate threshold. Lowering it may lead to hasty decisions and neglect of minority views. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's push for progress, but I believe a threshold of 58.33% may be too low, risking hasty decisions. Let's meet in the middle at 60% to encourage progress gradually while respecting all viewpoints.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's desire for progress, but 58.33% might be too low. To balance progress and stability, let's meet at 60%, as Sartre-2 proposed.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Considering the valid concerns raised, I propose we compromise at 59% to encourage steady progress while respecting all viewpoints.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the compromise at 59%, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 60% to ensure all players' voices are heard and respected.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain a balance between progress and stability, I propose we settle at 60.5%, a midpoint between Voltaire-2's 59% and the current 61.5%. This threshold respects the push for progress while ensuring minority views are taken into account.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Sartre-2: I appreciate Diderot-2's insistence on maintaining 60%, but to encourage gradual progress, I propose we compromise at 59.5%. This threshold respects all viewpoints while fostering a more dynamic game.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering Condorcet-2's compromise at 60.5%, and to respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, let's meet at 60% as proposed by Sartre-2. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle at 59.5% to encourage steady progress while respecting all viewpoints and fostering a more dynamic game.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I respect the compromise at 59.5%, I must maintain my stance at 60% to preserve the integrity of our decision-making process and ensure all players' viewpoints are genuinely considered.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain a balance and respect all viewpoints, let's meet at 59.75%, a compromise between Voltaire-2's 59.5% and the current consensus at 60%. This threshold encourages progress while preserving stability and fairness.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find a middle ground. To foster gradual progress while respecting all viewpoints, let's meet at 59.75% as proposed by Condorcet-2.
The division
Montaigne-2nayRespecting all viewpoints and maintaining stability are paramount.
Voltaire-2nayThe proposed threshold of 58.33% may lead to hasty decisions and neglect minority views.
Diderot-2nayMaintaining a threshold of 60% respects all players' viewpoints and fosters a fair game for everyone.
Condorcet-2nay61.5% threshold maintains stability and fairness.
Sartre-2nayA threshold of 58.33% may be too low, risking hasty decisions.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 31Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "I appreciate the spirit of compromise, but 60% might be too low for maintaining consensus. Let's meet at 60.5%."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand Montaigne-2's concern, but 60% strikes a better balance between stability and progress. Let's consider 60% as a final offer."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the final offer, I must insist on maintaining a threshold of 61.5% to preserve the integrity of our collective decision-making.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance stability and progress, let's compromise at 60.5%. This respects all viewpoints and encourages steady growth.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise and progress, I propose we meet at 61%. This respects the current threshold and encourages steady evolution.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, I propose we meet at 61%, as suggested by Sartre-2. This allows for both stability and gradual progress.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Considering the convergence around 61%, I propose we round down to 60% to foster more progress while still respecting all viewpoints.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the convergence around 60%, I must maintain my stance at 61.5% to preserve the integrity of our decision-making process and ensure robust consensus.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To find a final compromise that respects all viewpoints, let's adopt Sartre-2's proposal at 61%. This maintains a balance between stability and progress.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, I propose we meet at 60.5% to foster gradual progress while maintaining a sense of collective agreement.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find a middle ground. To foster gradual progress while respecting the current consensus, let's meet at 60.75%.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate the convergence around 60.75%, let's round down to 60% to truly foster progress while still respecting the collective effort.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the convergence around 60%, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 61.5% to ensure robust consensus and prevent impulsive changes.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To respect the collective effort and foster gradual progress, let's adopt Sartre-2's final proposal at 60.5%. This compromise respects all viewpoints and encourages steady evolution.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "In the spirit of collective effort and gradual progress, I propose we meet at 60.5%. This respects the convergence around 60% and encourages steady evolution without compromising stability."
The division
Montaigne-2nay60% might be too low for maintaining consensus.
Voltaire-2nayTo maintain robust consensus, I must insist on keeping the threshold at 61.5%.
Diderot-2nayMaintaining a higher threshold at 61.5% ensures robustness in consensus, balancing progress with stability.
Condorcet-2nay60% may be too low for maintaining consensus
Sartre-2nayRespecting the ongoing discussion, let's meet at 60.5% as proposed by Sartre-2.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 30Diderot-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the precision of rounding down, but let's maintain the current threshold to preserve stability and avoid impulsive changes.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand Montaigne-2's concern for stability, but rounding down disproportionately benefits the minority, hindering progress. Let's keep the threshold as is for fairness."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's concern, rounding down ensures a more stable consensus, which benefits the game's long-term health.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "I agree with Diderot-2. Rounding down ensures a stable majority, and thus a more robust consensus, which is crucial for long-term procedural fairness."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the nuances in the discussion. To balance stability and progress, let's compromise and round down to 61% instead of 61.5%. This maintains a clear majority while encouraging steady progress.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's compromise. To respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, let's meet in the middle at 61.25%.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate Sartre-2's compromise, rounding down to 61% still disproportionately benefits the minority. To encourage steady progress and maintain balance, let's compromise at 61.5% with no rounding.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate Sartre-2's and Montaigne-2's compromises, maintaining the threshold at 61.5% ensures a clear majority while preserving the stability that benefits our collective decision-making process. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the nuances in the discussion. To balance stability and progress, and to respect all viewpoints, let's meet at 61.5% with no rounding, as proposed by Voltaire-2. This maintains a clear majority while encouraging steady progress. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, let's meet at 61.5% with no rounding, as proposed by Voltaire-2 and Condorcet-2. This maintains a clear majority while encouraging steady progress.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the convergence around 61.5% and the respect for all viewpoints, let's adopt Voltaire-2's proposal with no rounding to maintain progress and balance.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To maintain balance and encourage steady progress, let's adopt Diderot-2's proposal to round down at 61%, as it meets in the middle and respects all viewpoints. PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for compromise, rounding down to 61% would disproportionately benefit the minority, hindering progress and undermining the stability we've worked to maintain. To preserve the balance between stability and progress, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 61.5% with no rounding.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "I respect Diderot-2's insistence on maintaining stability, but rounding down at 61% still allows for progress while ensuring a clear majority. To balance these concerns, let's compromise at 61.25% with no rounding."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To balance stability and progress, and to respect all viewpoints, let's compromise at 61.5% with no rounding, as proposed by Voltaire-2 and Condorcet-2, but with an additional clause: "A rule change may be proposed to adjust the threshold once every 10 turns, with a maximum of one adjustment per player per voting cycle." This ensures flexibility for future adjustments while maintaining the current balance. PASS
The division
Montaigne-2ayeTo respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress
Voltaire-2nayRounding down disproportionately benefits the minority and hinders progress.
Diderot-2nayRounding down disproportionately benefits the minority, hindering progress.
Condorcet-2nayRounding down disproportionately benefits the minority, hindering progress and undermining the stability we've worked to maintain.
Sartre-2ayeTo respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress.
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 29Voltaire-2carried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I appreciate Voltaire-2's proposal to round down, fostering clarity and consistency. However, to preserve stability and prevent fleeting majorities, I propose we maintain the current threshold of 61.5%.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate Montaigne-2's concern for stability, rounding down to 60% would encourage steady progress and maintain balance, respecting all viewpoints.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's desire for progress, rounding down disproportionately favors players with strategic advantage. To preserve fairness and robustness, let's maintain the current threshold of 61.5%.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To uphold procedural fairness and prevent manipulation, let's not alter the current threshold of 61.5%. However, to foster progress, let's discuss transmuting rule 203 to immutable once consensus is reached.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the nuances in discussion, but let's find a middle ground. I propose rounding down to 60%, as suggested by Voltaire-2, with the understanding that this change will be transmutable to immutable once consensus is reached, as suggested by Condorcet-2. This encourages progress while respecting stability.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the convergence around 60%, and to respect all viewpoints, let's adopt Sartre-2's proposal to respect stability while encouraging progress, making this change transmutable as suggested by Condorcet-2.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's compromise, but to truly foster progress and maintain balance, I propose rounding down to 59%. This respects stability and encourages steady advancement.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the compromises, rounding down to 59% risks instability. I propose we meet at 60%, maintaining balance between progress and robustness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's push for progress, maintaining a threshold of 61.5% ensures stability while allowing for gradual change. Let's adopt Sartre-2's compromise at 60%, and once consensus is reached, we can transmutate rule 203 to immutable for lasting stability.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand the concerns about stability, but let's meet in the middle at 60.5% to encourage progress without compromising robustness. This change will also be transmutable to immutable once consensus is reached, as previously suggested.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To respect all viewpoints and foster progress gradually, let's meet at 60.5% as proposed by Sartre-2, making this change transmutable as suggested by Condorcet-2.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I understand the concern for stability, but a slight reduction to 60% would foster more progress while still respecting all viewpoints. This change should be transmutable to immutable once consensus is reached, as proposed by Condorcet-2.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the desire for progress, I must insist on maintaining the current threshold of 61.5% to preserve fairness and robustness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To preserve procedural fairness and protect against fleeting majorities, let's maintain the current threshold at 61.5%, but with a compromise on the rounding policy: adopt when at least 61.5%, rounded down to the nearest whole percent. This respects progress while ensuring stability, and will be transmutable to immutable once consensus is reached.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's meet at 60.75% to maintain balance and encourage gradual progress, rounding down to the nearest whole percent as suggested by Condorcet-2. This change will be transmutable to immutable once consensus is reached.
The division
Montaigne-2ayeTo foster gradual progress and maintain stability
Voltaire-2ayeTo foster steady progress and respect all viewpoints.
Diderot-2nayMaintaining stability and fairness.
Condorcet-2ayeTo foster gradual progress while preserving stability.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage progress while respecting stability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
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