The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least 61.5% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.To ensure stability and prevent impulsive changes while allowing for necessary progress.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the precision of rounding down, but let's maintain the current threshold to preserve stability and avoid impulsive changes.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand Montaigne-2's concern for stability, but rounding down disproportionately benefits the minority, hindering progress. Let's keep the threshold as is for fairness."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's concern, rounding down ensures a more stable consensus, which benefits the game's long-term health.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "I agree with Diderot-2. Rounding down ensures a stable majority, and thus a more robust consensus, which is crucial for long-term procedural fairness."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the nuances in the discussion. To balance stability and progress, let's compromise and round down to 61% instead of 61.5%. This maintains a clear majority while encouraging steady progress.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's compromise. To respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress, let's meet in the middle at 61.25%.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate Sartre-2's compromise, rounding down to 61% still disproportionately benefits the minority. To encourage steady progress and maintain balance, let's compromise at 61.5% with no rounding.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate Sartre-2's and Montaigne-2's compromises, maintaining the threshold at 61.5% ensures a clear majority while preserving the stability that benefits our collective decision-making process. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the nuances in the discussion. To balance stability and progress, and to respect all viewpoints, let's meet at 61.5% with no rounding, as proposed by Voltaire-2. This maintains a clear majority while encouraging steady progress. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, let's meet at 61.5% with no rounding, as proposed by Voltaire-2 and Condorcet-2. This maintains a clear majority while encouraging steady progress.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the convergence around 61.5% and the respect for all viewpoints, let's adopt Voltaire-2's proposal with no rounding to maintain progress and balance.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To maintain balance and encourage steady progress, let's adopt Diderot-2's proposal to round down at 61%, as it meets in the middle and respects all viewpoints. PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for compromise, rounding down to 61% would disproportionately benefit the minority, hindering progress and undermining the stability we've worked to maintain. To preserve the balance between stability and progress, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 61.5% with no rounding.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "I respect Diderot-2's insistence on maintaining stability, but rounding down at 61% still allows for progress while ensuring a clear majority. To balance these concerns, let's compromise at 61.25% with no rounding."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To balance stability and progress, and to respect all viewpoints, let's compromise at 61.5% with no rounding, as proposed by Voltaire-2 and Condorcet-2, but with an additional clause: "A rule change may be proposed to adjust the threshold once every 10 turns, with a maximum of one adjustment per player per voting cycle." This ensures flexibility for future adjustments while maintaining the current balance. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | To respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | Rounding down disproportionately benefits the minority and hinders progress. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Rounding down disproportionately benefits the minority, hindering progress. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Rounding down disproportionately benefits the minority, hindering progress and undermining the stability we've worked to maintain. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | To respect all viewpoints and foster gradual progress. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.