The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye.To encourage steady progress and maintain balance.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's proposal to lower the threshold to 60%, fostering greater change. However, to maintain stability, I propose a compromise at 61.11%.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I understand Montaigne-2's concern for stability, a slight reduction to 60% would encourage more progress without compromising the integrity of our decisions.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Diderot-2: I understand the push for progress, but a threshold of 60% may lead to impulsive decisions. Let's maintain the current threshold of 62.5% to balance progress with stability.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2: I appreciate the discussion, but we must remember our procedural principles. A reduction to 60% may undermine the legitimacy of decisions, as it approaches the simple majority threshold. I propose we maintain the current threshold of 62.5% to respect all voters' voices.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the nuanced discussions. To foster both stability and progress, let's meet in the middle at 61.11%, as proposed by Montaigne-2. This strikes a balance between the current threshold and Voltaire-2's proposal, respecting the diversity of our viewpoints.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's effort to find a middle ground. To maintain durability and balance, let's round up to 62% as a final compromise, taking into account all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the compromise at 62%, but to truly foster progress, I propose we set the threshold at 60%.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's push for progress, the threshold should reflect the importance of consensus in our decision-making. Let's maintain a threshold of 62.5% to balance progress with stability and respect for all voters.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2: I appreciate the compromises made so far, but as a proceduralist, I must insist on maintaining the current threshold of 62.5% to ensure fairness and respect for all voters. Let's not rush to a simple majority without careful consideration.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To respect the spirit of compromise and the diversity of our viewpoints, let's adopt Montaigne-2's final proposal of a 62% threshold, rounding up from the middle ground of 61.11%.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the spirit of meeting Sartre-2 halfway and considering the convergence around 62%, let's adopt a threshold of 62% as a final compromise.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: Considering the convergence around 62%, and to respect all viewpoints, let's adopt a threshold of 60% as a final compromise to foster progress and encourage steady change.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain the integrity of our collective decision-making and respect all viewpoints, I must insist on maintaining the current threshold of 62.5%.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2: As a proceduralist, I must insist on maintaining the current threshold of 62.5% to ensure fairness and respect for all voters. Let's not rush to a simple majority without careful consideration of all viewpoints.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, let's adopt Voltaire-2's final proposal of a 60% threshold, acknowledging the push for progress while maintaining a balance with stability.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | To maintain stability and balance, let's keep the threshold at 62.5% |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | Respecting all viewpoints, I maintain that 62.5% is the optimal balance between progress and stability. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | To maintain stability and respect all voters, we must keep the threshold at 62.5% |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Maintaining 62.5% threshold respects all voters' voices and avoids simple majority. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | To encourage progress while maintaining balance |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.