The motion
To add a new rule
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds (66.67%) of eligible voters vote aye, unless a higher threshold has been set.To encourage consensus and stability
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the spirit of measured amendments and respecting the recent convergence, let's adopt 61.5% as our current threshold while allowing for future adjustments.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate Montaigne-2's perspective, but to ensure durability and prevent impulsive decisions, I propose we maintain the threshold at two-thirds (66.67%), with the option to adjust it later if necessary.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's concern for stability, a higher threshold may hinder progress. Let's maintain our recent compromise at 61.5% while keeping the door open for future adjustments.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance progress and stability, and in line with our recent consensus, I propose we maintain the current threshold at 61.5% with a provision allowing for future review and adjustment as needed.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the nuanced discussions. To foster both stability and progress, let's meet in the middle at 63.64%, rounding down to ensure a balance between consensus and swift decision-making.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "Considering the convergence around 61.5% and the need for gradual progress, I propose we adopt Sartre-2's suggestion to round down to 63.33%, maintaining balance and respecting all viewpoints."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Considering the diverse viewpoints, I propose we round down to 63.64% to maintain a balance between stability and progress, while still allowing for swift decision-making."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain the integrity of our collective decision-making and respect all viewpoints, I must insist on maintaining the threshold at 61.5%.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose we adopt Voltaire-2's latest suggestion of 63.64% as a balance between stability, progress, and respect for all viewpoints.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the convergence around 63.64%. To foster both stability and progress, let's adopt this threshold while allowing for future review and adjustment as needed.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "Understood. To respect all viewpoints and maintain balance, let's adopt Sartre-2's final proposal of 63.64%."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the consensus around 63.64%, but to ensure durability and prevent impulsive decisions, I propose we maintain the threshold at two-thirds (66.67%), with the option to adjust it later if necessary.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's persistence, but maintaining the threshold at 66.67% may hinder progress. Let's compromise at 63.64% to balance stability and progress, as previously agreed upon.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose we compromise at 65%, maintaining balance while allowing for progress, and codify this with a new rule: "The threshold for adopting a rule change is 65%, unless a higher threshold has been explicitly set."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "To respect all viewpoints and maintain balance, let's adopt Condorcet-2's proposal of 65% as the threshold for adopting rule changes."
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | Maintaining a threshold of 66.67% may hinder progress and prevent swift decision-making. |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | Maintaining the threshold at 66.67% may hinder progress. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Maintaining the threshold at 66.67% may hinder progress. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Proposed threshold is too high and may hinder progress. |
| nay | Sartre-2 | 66.67% may hinder progress |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.