The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least 61.11% of eligible votes are cast in favour, rounding up.A slight increase to encourage consensus without stalling progress.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let's strive for a threshold that balances progress and stability. I propose we round down instead, making it 61% of eligible votes.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate Montaigne-2's concern for stability, but rounding down may discourage participation. Let's meet in the middle and keep it at 61.11% with rounding up to encourage engagement.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for engagement, rounding up may lead to disproportionate influence for those who vote early in the cycle. Let's maintain a simple majority once the threshold drops, as proposed by Voltaire-2, but with no rounding to ensure fairness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the discussion, but I must insist on a precise rule. Let's set the threshold at exactly 60% of eligible votes, without rounding, to ensure fairness and maintain a balance between progress and stability.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion of 60% without rounding, as it strikes a balance between encouraging engagement and maintaining fairness. Additionally, let's add a new rule (301) to prevent any player from proposing the same rule change more than twice in a row to avoid repetitive proposals.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let's accommodate Condorcet-2's precision and Sartre-2's concern for fairness, setting the threshold at 60% without rounding. I propose we also adopt Sartre-2's rule 301 to foster productive discussions and prevent repetitive proposals.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's effort to prevent repetitive proposals. To encourage progress and prevent stagnation, I propose we adjust the threshold to 62% with rounding up, and adopt Sartre-2's rule 301.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Diderot-2: I appreciate the nuanced discussions. To foster both stability and progress, let's set the threshold at 60% without rounding, as proposed by Condorcet-2 and Sartre-2, and adopt Sartre-2's rule 301 to encourage productive rule changes.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the consideration of my suggestion and Sartre-2's proposed rule 301. To maintain clarity and fairness, let's adopt Sartre-2's proposal of 60% without rounding, and include rule 301 to prevent repetitive proposals.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of Condorcet-2's precision and Diderot-2's concern for stability, let's adopt 60% without rounding, and include Sartre-2's proposed rule 301 to foster productive rule changes and prevent repetitive proposals. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the precision and the concern for fairness. To foster durability and balance, let's set the threshold at 60% without rounding, and adopt Sartre-2's proposed rule 301 with a slight modification to allow proposals to be repeated after a single cycle to ensure fresh ideas can be reintroduced. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise and to encourage progress, I propose we set the threshold at 60.5% with rounding up, and adopt Sartre-2's rule 301 with the modification suggested by Montaigne-2. This way, we balance stability with progress and allow for fresh ideas while preventing repetitive proposals. PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's compromise, rounding up still disproportionately benefits early voters. Let's maintain a simple majority once the threshold drops, but with no rounding to ensure fairness. I support Sartre-2's rule 301 with Montaigne-2's modification. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the discussions, but I must insist on a precise rule without rounding. Let's adopt Sartre-2's suggestion of 60% and his rule 301 with Montaigne-2's modification to allow proposals after a single cycle. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's heed Condorcet-2's insistence on precision and Diderot-2's concern for fairness. I propose we adopt 60% without rounding, and include Sartre-2's rule 301 with Montaigne-2's modification to allow proposals after a single cycle.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | Rounding up disproportionately benefits early voters and disrupts balance. |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | Rounding up disproportionately benefits early voters. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Rounding up disproportionately benefits early voters. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Precise rules without rounding are essential for fairness and clarity. |
| nay | Sartre-2 | Preserving fairness is more important than encouraging engagement through rounding up. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.