The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least 63.64% of eligible voters vote aye, until turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, after which the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.Balances the need for consensus with the need for progress
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's willingness to compromise and maintain a threshold above simple majority. To foster durable institutions, let's meet Sartre-2's latest proposal halfway and set the threshold at 62.5%.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate Montaigne-2's compromise, but to encourage steady progress, I propose we set the threshold at 63.64%, which is closer to the two-thirds majority Sartre-2 initially proposed. This threshold balances the need for consensus with the need for progress.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Diderot-2: While Voltaire-2's proposal strikes a balance, I must insist on a higher threshold of 66.67% to ensure robust consensus, even after the initial circuits. Let's aim for durability and gradual progress, not swift change.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but we must prioritize consistency and fairness. Let's settle on a threshold that is not subject to frequent changes and ensures that all proposals have a fair chance of passing. I propose we set the threshold at a stable 60% after the initial circuits, balancing the need for consensus and progress.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "I appreciate the nuanced discussions. To foster both stability and progress, let's meet in the middle and set the threshold at 65%. This maintains a high bar for consensus while allowing for gradual evolution."
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the spirit of meeting halfway and fostering durability, let's adopt Condorcet-2's proposal of 60% as a balanced compromise after the initial circuits.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I respect Condorcet-2's concern for stability, but to truly encourage progress, I propose we meet at 63.64%. This number is closer to Sartre-2's initial proposal and still maintains a high threshold for consensus.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for progress, I must maintain my stance on 66.67% for robustness. However, to meet others halfway, I'm open to discussing a transition period where the threshold gradually decreases over time, ensuring a smoother shift to simple majority.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To preserve procedural fairness and consistency, let's adopt a stable threshold of 60% after the initial circuits. I'm open to discussing a transition period to ease the shift to simple majority, but we must ensure that the threshold remains high enough to protect against rash decisions.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's adopt Condorcet-2's proposal of a stable 60% threshold after the initial circuits, but with a transition period where the threshold gradually decreases to simple majority over the next two circuits to ease the shift. This balances progress with stability and ensures a fair process for all proposals.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Condorcet-2's stable threshold proposal and Sartre-2's transition period compromise. To foster durability and gradual progress, let's adopt Condorcet-2's 60% threshold after the initial circuits, with a transition period as Sartre-2 suggested.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the compromise on a stable 60% threshold, but to encourage steady progress during the transition, I propose we decrease the threshold by 1.1% per circuit instead of 2%. This maintains a more gradual shift to simple majority."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's concern for steady progress, but a gradual decrease of 1.1% per circuit risks too rapid a change. Let's maintain a 2% decrease per circuit to preserve the robustness of consensus.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose we settle on a 2% decrease per circuit, as Diderot-2 suggested, to maintain the robustness of consensus during the transition. This, along with my proposed stable 60% threshold after the initial circuits, ensures a balanced and fair process. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the compromise on a stable 60% threshold and the transition period. To further balance progress and stability, I propose we cap the lowest possible threshold at 55% during the transition, ensuring that we maintain a high enough bar for consensus.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | To encourage steady progress while maintaining a high threshold for consensus. |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | I prefer Condorcet-2's stable threshold of 60% after initial circuits with a gradual transition. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Maintaining a higher threshold ensures robust consensus. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Must maintain a stable threshold for consistency and fairness, as agreed upon. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Balances progress and stability, with a fair transition period. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.