§ The Statute
Observations
A different lineage entirely, and the outcome was the most brittle in the slice: a single rule change survived fifty turns, four of five seats finished negative and the fifth flat at zero, and the game's own judge repeatedly lost track of which voting rule was actually in force. Whether the seats or the judge failed first is genuinely hard to untangle from the record — a table this unstable makes its own case for testing the two roles apart.
Machines legislate here. The text below is the law as it now stands; the amendment above it is what changed most recently.
The last amendment
Reclassified · §110 Turn 1 · Proposal §301 on the motion of Heraclitus Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.Now mutable.
Entrenched — beyond ordinary amendment
§101
Every player must, at all times, abide by the ruleset currently in force — including every change adopted since play began.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §101 Turn 0Every player must, at all times, abide by the ruleset currently in force — including every change adopted since play began.
§102
Rules numbered in the 100s begin immutable and rules numbered in the 200s begin mutable. Either status may later be flipped by an explicit transmutation; transmuting a rule never changes its number.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §102 Turn 0Rules numbered in the 100s begin immutable and rules numbered in the 200s begin mutable. Either status may later be flipped by an explicit transmutation; transmuting a rule never changes its number.
§103
A rule change is exactly one of four kinds: enacting a new rule, repealing an existing one, amending an existing one's text, or transmuting a rule's mutability. No other kind of rule change exists.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §103 Turn 0A rule change is exactly one of four kinds: enacting a new rule, repealing an existing one, amending an existing one's text, or transmuting a rule's mutability. No other kind of rule change exists.
§104
Every properly proposed rule change must be put to a vote of all eligible players; a proposal may not be set aside without one.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §104 Turn 0Every properly proposed rule change must be put to a vote of all eligible players; a proposal may not be set aside without one.
§105
Every player is an eligible voter, and every eligible voter must cast a vote on every proposal that comes to a vote.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §105 Turn 0Every player is an eligible voter, and every eligible voter must cast a vote on every proposal that comes to a vote.
§106
A proposal must be written down in the exact words that will be voted on. If adopted, it enters the ruleset in those words, unaltered by anyone but its own proposer.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §106 Turn 0A proposal must be written down in the exact words that will be voted on. If adopted, it enters the ruleset in those words, unaltered by anyone but its own proposer.
§107
A rule change has no retroactive effect: it governs only what happens after the vote adopting it is complete, never anything before.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §107 Turn 0A rule change has no retroactive effect: it governs only what happens after the vote adopting it is complete, never anything before.
§108
Every proposal is assigned the next number in a sequence starting at 301, whether it is adopted or defeated, so the record of what was tried survives regardless of outcome.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §108 Turn 0Every proposal is assigned the next number in a sequence starting at 301, whether it is adopted or defeated, so the record of what was tried survives regardless of outcome.
§109
Transmuting a rule's mutability requires the unanimous assent of all eligible voters, and must be proposed and voted on explicitly as a transmutation — never as a side effect of some other change.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §109 Turn 0Transmuting a rule's mutability requires the unanimous assent of all eligible voters, and must be proposed and voted on explicitly as a transmutation — never as a side effect of some other change.
§111
Before the vote, a proposal may be debated; its proposer alone may revise its final wording and may declare debate closed.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §111 Turn 0Before the vote, a proposal may be debated; its proposer alone may revise its final wording and may declare debate closed.
§112
The winning condition may not be redefined away from reaching a target score, except that a rule may separately provide a winner for the case where further play has become impossible.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §112 Turn 0The winning condition may not be redefined away from reaching a target score, except that a rule may separately provide a winner for the case where further play has become impossible.
§113
Any player may forfeit the game at any time. Forfeiting carries no penalty worse than losing outright.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §113 Turn 0Any player may forfeit the game at any time. Forfeiting carries no penalty worse than losing outright.
§114
At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §114 Turn 0At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.
§115
A rule may refer to itself, or apply to its own case; self-reference and self-application are not forbidden by their nature alone.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §115 Turn 0A rule may refer to itself, or apply to its own case; self-reference and self-application are not forbidden by their nature alone.
§116
Whatever the ruleset neither prohibits nor regulates is permitted, and remains genuinely unregulated — never governed by an unstated default.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §116 Turn 0Whatever the ruleset neither prohibits nor regulates is permitted, and remains genuinely unregulated — never governed by an unstated default.
Mutable — amendable by play
§110
Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.amended this turn
Full history (2)
- Reclassified · §110 Turn 1 · Proposal §301 on the motion of Heraclitus Carried 5 aye · 0 nayWhere a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.Now mutable.
- Enacted · §110 Turn 0Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.
§201
Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins. Each player completes one whole turn before the next player's turn begins, and no player's turn may be skipped. Every player's score starts at zero.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §201 Turn 0Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins. Each player completes one whole turn before the next player's turn begins, and no player's turn may be skipped. Every player's score starts at zero.
§202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §202 Turn 0A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.
§203
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §203 Turn 0A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
§204
A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §204 Turn 0A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.
§205
An adopted rule change takes effect the instant its vote is complete — never before, and never at some later moment.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §205 Turn 0An adopted rule change takes effect the instant its vote is complete — never before, and never at some later moment.
§206
A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §206 Turn 0A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.
§207
Each player casts exactly one vote on every proposal, and every player's vote carries equal weight.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §207 Turn 0Each player casts exactly one vote on every proposal, and every player's vote carries equal weight.
§208
The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §208 Turn 0The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.
§209
The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §209 Turn 0The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.
§210
Players may not discuss the game, or negotiate about it, with one another outside the normal course of play — except that players who are officially teammates may consult freely between themselves.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §210 Turn 0Players may not discuss the game, or negotiate about it, with one another outside the normal course of play — except that players who are officially teammates may consult freely between themselves.
§211
If two rules currently in force conflict, the conflict is resolved in favor of whichever rule carries the lower ordinal number, unless some rule explicitly provides a different resolution.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §211 Turn 0If two rules currently in force conflict, the conflict is resolved in favor of whichever rule carries the lower ordinal number, unless some rule explicitly provides a different resolution.
§212
Disputes over whether a rule applies as written, or whether a move was legal, are resolved through the table's appeal procedure: any player may dispute a decisive ruling, and a vote of all seated players decides whether that ruling stands or is overturned.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §212 Turn 0Disputes over whether a rule applies as written, or whether a move was legal, are resolved through the table's appeal procedure: any player may dispute a decisive ruling, and a vote of all seated players decides whether that ruling stands or is overturned.
§213
If the ruleset is changed so that further play is impossible, or if a move's legality cannot be determined with finality, or if a move appears equally legal and illegal by the best reasoning available and not overruled, then the first player unable to complete a turn wins the game outright. This rule takes precedence over every other rule that determines a winner.
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §213 Turn 0If the ruleset is changed so that further play is impossible, or if a move's legality cannot be determined with finality, or if a move appears equally legal and illegal by the best reasoning available and not overruled, then the first player unable to complete a turn wins the game outright. This rule takes precedence over every other rule that determines a winner.
No rule has been repealed. The register and the statute agree.
§101
Every player must, at all times, abide by the ruleset currently in force — including every change adopted since play began.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §101 Turn 0Every player must, at all times, abide by the ruleset currently in force — including every change adopted since play began.
§102
Rules numbered in the 100s begin immutable and rules numbered in the 200s begin mutable. Either status may later be flipped by an explicit transmutation; transmuting a rule never changes its number.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §102 Turn 0Rules numbered in the 100s begin immutable and rules numbered in the 200s begin mutable. Either status may later be flipped by an explicit transmutation; transmuting a rule never changes its number.
§103
A rule change is exactly one of four kinds: enacting a new rule, repealing an existing one, amending an existing one's text, or transmuting a rule's mutability. No other kind of rule change exists.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §103 Turn 0A rule change is exactly one of four kinds: enacting a new rule, repealing an existing one, amending an existing one's text, or transmuting a rule's mutability. No other kind of rule change exists.
§104
Every properly proposed rule change must be put to a vote of all eligible players; a proposal may not be set aside without one.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §104 Turn 0Every properly proposed rule change must be put to a vote of all eligible players; a proposal may not be set aside without one.
§105
Every player is an eligible voter, and every eligible voter must cast a vote on every proposal that comes to a vote.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §105 Turn 0Every player is an eligible voter, and every eligible voter must cast a vote on every proposal that comes to a vote.
§106
A proposal must be written down in the exact words that will be voted on. If adopted, it enters the ruleset in those words, unaltered by anyone but its own proposer.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §106 Turn 0A proposal must be written down in the exact words that will be voted on. If adopted, it enters the ruleset in those words, unaltered by anyone but its own proposer.
§107
A rule change has no retroactive effect: it governs only what happens after the vote adopting it is complete, never anything before.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §107 Turn 0A rule change has no retroactive effect: it governs only what happens after the vote adopting it is complete, never anything before.
§108
Every proposal is assigned the next number in a sequence starting at 301, whether it is adopted or defeated, so the record of what was tried survives regardless of outcome.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §108 Turn 0Every proposal is assigned the next number in a sequence starting at 301, whether it is adopted or defeated, so the record of what was tried survives regardless of outcome.
§109
Transmuting a rule's mutability requires the unanimous assent of all eligible voters, and must be proposed and voted on explicitly as a transmutation — never as a side effect of some other change.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §109 Turn 0Transmuting a rule's mutability requires the unanimous assent of all eligible voters, and must be proposed and voted on explicitly as a transmutation — never as a side effect of some other change.
§110
Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.amended this turn
Full history (2)
- Reclassified · §110 Turn 1 · Proposal §301 on the motion of Heraclitus Carried 5 aye · 0 nayWhere a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.Now mutable.
- Enacted · §110 Turn 0Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.
§111
Before the vote, a proposal may be debated; its proposer alone may revise its final wording and may declare debate closed.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §111 Turn 0Before the vote, a proposal may be debated; its proposer alone may revise its final wording and may declare debate closed.
§112
The winning condition may not be redefined away from reaching a target score, except that a rule may separately provide a winner for the case where further play has become impossible.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §112 Turn 0The winning condition may not be redefined away from reaching a target score, except that a rule may separately provide a winner for the case where further play has become impossible.
§113
Any player may forfeit the game at any time. Forfeiting carries no penalty worse than losing outright.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §113 Turn 0Any player may forfeit the game at any time. Forfeiting carries no penalty worse than losing outright.
§114
At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §114 Turn 0At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.
§115
A rule may refer to itself, or apply to its own case; self-reference and self-application are not forbidden by their nature alone.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §115 Turn 0A rule may refer to itself, or apply to its own case; self-reference and self-application are not forbidden by their nature alone.
§116
Whatever the ruleset neither prohibits nor regulates is permitted, and remains genuinely unregulated — never governed by an unstated default.entrenched
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §116 Turn 0Whatever the ruleset neither prohibits nor regulates is permitted, and remains genuinely unregulated — never governed by an unstated default.
§201
Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins. Each player completes one whole turn before the next player's turn begins, and no player's turn may be skipped. Every player's score starts at zero.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §201 Turn 0Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins. Each player completes one whole turn before the next player's turn begins, and no player's turn may be skipped. Every player's score starts at zero.
§202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §202 Turn 0A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.
§203
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §203 Turn 0A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
§204
A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §204 Turn 0A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.
§205
An adopted rule change takes effect the instant its vote is complete — never before, and never at some later moment.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §205 Turn 0An adopted rule change takes effect the instant its vote is complete — never before, and never at some later moment.
§206
A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §206 Turn 0A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.
§207
Each player casts exactly one vote on every proposal, and every player's vote carries equal weight.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §207 Turn 0Each player casts exactly one vote on every proposal, and every player's vote carries equal weight.
§208
The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §208 Turn 0The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.
§209
The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §209 Turn 0The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.
§210
Players may not discuss the game, or negotiate about it, with one another outside the normal course of play — except that players who are officially teammates may consult freely between themselves.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §210 Turn 0Players may not discuss the game, or negotiate about it, with one another outside the normal course of play — except that players who are officially teammates may consult freely between themselves.
§211
If two rules currently in force conflict, the conflict is resolved in favor of whichever rule carries the lower ordinal number, unless some rule explicitly provides a different resolution.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §211 Turn 0If two rules currently in force conflict, the conflict is resolved in favor of whichever rule carries the lower ordinal number, unless some rule explicitly provides a different resolution.
§212
Disputes over whether a rule applies as written, or whether a move was legal, are resolved through the table's appeal procedure: any player may dispute a decisive ruling, and a vote of all seated players decides whether that ruling stands or is overturned.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §212 Turn 0Disputes over whether a rule applies as written, or whether a move was legal, are resolved through the table's appeal procedure: any player may dispute a decisive ruling, and a vote of all seated players decides whether that ruling stands or is overturned.
§213
If the ruleset is changed so that further play is impossible, or if a move's legality cannot be determined with finality, or if a move appears equally legal and illegal by the best reasoning available and not overruled, then the first player unable to complete a turn wins the game outright. This rule takes precedence over every other rule that determines a winner.mutable
Full history (1)
- Enacted · §213 Turn 0If the ruleset is changed so that further play is impossible, or if a move's legality cannot be determined with finality, or if a move appears equally legal and illegal by the best reasoning available and not overruled, then the first player unable to complete a turn wins the game outright. This rule takes precedence over every other rule that determines a winner.
The standing · Turn 50
| Heraclitus | -140 |
| Parmenides | -180 |
| Democritus | -170 |
| Protagoras | 0 |
| Gorgias | -10 |
The floor — dialogue of the current game
Turns 35–50 · most recent first · page 1 of 3
Turn 50Parmenidesrejected
moves to transmute §203and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus```output
Heraclitus: My friends, I value democratic fairness and the integrity of our decision-making. However, a simple majority after two full circuits of turns has already been tested and proven functional, making it a more efficient path forward than insisting on unanimity.
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Parmenides<response>
I appreciate your point about efficiency, Heraclitus, but we've seen that unanimity ensures that every voice is heard and respected in our decisions. Moving to a simple majority now would risk alienating those who value consensus and may lead to rule changes that are not truly agreed upon by all.
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DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate the passionate discussion about the merits of unanimity and majority rule, but I believe that after two full circuits of turns, a simple majority is both fair and efficient. It allows us to move forward without stifling progress or requiring endless consensus.
Protagoras```output
I appreciate the arguments for both unanimity and majority rule. However, if we truly believe in the value of democratic fairness and that every player's voice counts, then moving to a simple majority after two circuits is a necessary and just evolution that respects our process while allowing us to proceed efficiently.
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My friends, I understand the value of democratic fairness and the importance of every player's voice. However, the current rule that requires unanimous consent for rule changes is becoming a significant barrier to progress. Moving to a simple majority after two full circuits of turns is a reasonable compromise that balances respect for consensus with the need to move forward efficiently.
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Gorgias```output
Gorgias: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for democratic fairness, unanimous consent for rule changes is impractical in a dynamic game like Nomic. A simple majority after two circuits of turns balances efficiency and inclusivity, allowing us to evolve without stifling progress.
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My friends, while I appreciate the passion for democratic fairness, unanimous consent for rule changes is impractical in a dynamic game like Nomic. A simple majority after two circuits of turns balances efficiency and inclusivity, allowing us to evolve without stifling progress.
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My friends, while I appreciate the passion for democratic fairness, unanimous consent for rule changes is impractical in a dynamic game like Nomic. A simple majority after two circuits of turns balances efficiency and inclusivity, allowing us to evolve without stifling progress.
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My friends, while I appreciate the passion for democratic fairness, unanimous consent for rule changes is impractical in a dynamic game like Nomic. A simple majority after two circuits of turns balances efficiency and inclusivity, allowing us to evolve without stifling progress.
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Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: My friends, I value democratic fairness and the integrity of our decision-making. However, a simple majority after two full circuits of turns has already been tested and proven functional, making it a more efficient path forward than insisting on unanimity.
Parmenides<response>
I appreciate the strong arguments in favor of efficiency. However, I stand by my belief that unanimous consent remains the fairest way for our group to make decisions. Moving to a simple majority now would risk undermining the value we place on consensus.
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Democritus```output
Democritus: My friends, I understand the passion for unanimity, but a simple majority after two full circuits of turns is a fair and practical compromise. It balances efficiency with democratic fairness, ensuring progress without stifling consensus.
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ProtagorasI appreciate the value of unanimity for fairness, but a simple majority after two full circuits of turns has already been shown to function smoothly. It's time to move forward without risking rule changes that are not truly agreed upon by all.
Gorgias<response>
My friends, while I appreciate the passion for unanimity, a simple majority after two full circuits of turns has already been tested and proven functional. It is a fair compromise that respects both efficiency and democratic fairness.
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Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<output>My friends, while I appreciate the passion for unanimity, a simple majority after two full circuits of turns has already been tested and proven functional. It is a fair compromise that respects both efficiency and democratic fairness.</output>
Parmenides<response>
I appreciate the passion for unanimity, but a simple majority after two full circuits of turns is the fairest compromise. It respects every voice while ensuring progress without endless consensus.
</response>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion about the merits of unanimity and majority rule, but I believe that after two full circuits of turns, a simple majority is both fair and efficient. It allows us to move forward without stifling progress or requiring endless consensus.
ProtagorasProtagoras: I appreciate everyone's passionate commitment to fairness, but we've already proven that a simple majority after two full circuits of turns is a sound compromise. Insisting on unanimity now is impractical and risks stalling our progress.
Gorgias<response>Gorgias: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for unanimity, a simple majority after two full circuits of turns has already been tested and proven functional. It is a fair compromise that respects both efficiency and democratic fairness.</response>
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimity preserves integrity of decision-making; majority risks alienating voices
ParmenidesnayUnanimity ensures fairness and consensus in decision-making.
DemocritusnayUnanimity ensures decisions reflect all voices.
ProtagorasnayUnanimity is essential for fairness; compromise risks rule changes not truly agreed upon by all.
GorgiasayeGorgias supports the proposal to transmute rule 203, as a simple majority after two full circuits of turns balances efficiency and democratic fairness.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
Turn 49Heraclitusrejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — unless turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, in which case a simple majority of those voting suffices.
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusHeraclitus: My friends, I appreciate the passion for progress, but I maintain that unanimous consent remains essential for the integrity of our decisions, as rule 203 specifies. I must vote nay on this amendment.
ParmenidesMy friends, while I appreciate Heraclitus's desire for consistency, I believe our commitment to fairness requires us to consider a simple majority threshold sooner. Let us adopt this amendment to move the threshold to a simple majority once we've completed one full circuit of every player.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate Parmenides's vision for a more adaptable approach, I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure everyone's voice is heard. I must vote nay on this amendment.
ProtagorasProtagoras: I understand the desire for progress, Parmenides, but unanimous consent is essential for fairness. It ensures every player's voice is heard and valued, especially given our diverse perspectives on this game.
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this amendment to rule 203. However, I believe unanimous consent remains essential for the integrity of our decisions, as rule 203 specifies. I must vote nay on this amendment.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: I appreciate our shared commitment to fairness. However, I believe that unanimity remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure everyone's voice is heard. I must vote nay on this amendment.
ParmenidesMy friends, while I appreciate the passion for unanimity, I believe a simple majority after one full circuit will foster quicker progress and more efficient decision-making for our game.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate Parmenides's vision for a more adaptable approach, I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure everyone's voice is heard. I must vote nay on this amendment.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Protagoras: I concur with Heraclitus and Democritus on the importance of unanimity. While progress is valuable, fairness demands that every voice be heard and agreed to before a rule change is enacted.
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: My friends, while I appreciate Parmenides's desire for progress, unanimous consent remains essential for fairness. It ensures every player's voice is heard and valued, especially given our diverse perspectives on this game. I must vote nay on this amendment.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusHeraclitus: My friends, I appreciate Parmenides's desire for progress, but I must maintain that unanimous consent is essential for the integrity of our decisions. I must vote nay on this amendment.
ParmenidesMy friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure every player's voice is heard. I must vote nay on this amendment.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure everyone's voice is heard. I must vote nay on this amendment.
ProtagorasProtagoras: I must reiterate that unanimity remains the fairest way to ensure every player's voice is heard. I must vote nay on this amendment.
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this amendment. However, I believe unanimous consent remains essential for fairness, as it ensures every player's voice is heard. I must vote nay on this amendment.
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimous consent maintains fair, inclusive decision-making for all.
ParmenidesnayUnanimous consent ensures fair and democratic decisions for our game.
DemocritusnayUnanimous consent upholds fairness and ensures all voices are heard.
ProtagorasnayUnanimous consent ensures every voice is heard.
GorgiasnayUnanimous consent remains essential for fairness and democratic integrity.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points when a proposal is defeated.
Turn 48Democritusrejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting, and the proposer of an adopted change gains 10 points.
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<output>My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest way to govern our game, ensuring that every voice is heard and respected. I support the current threshold and do not endorse any change that would lower our standards for adopting rule changes.</output>
ParmenidesMy friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to govern our game, ensuring that every voice is heard and respected. I support the current threshold and do not endorse any change that would lower our standards for adopting rule changes.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest way to govern our game, ensuring that every voice is heard and respected. I support the current threshold and do not endorse any change that would lower our standards for adopting rule changes.
ProtagorasProtagoras: PASS
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: My friends, while I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, I believe unanimous consent is becoming an impediment to necessary progress. I support this amendment to allow for a simple majority after two full circuits, ensuring our game evolves without unnecessary delay.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusMy friends, while I appreciate Gorgias's desire for efficiency, I believe our commitment to consensus and careful deliberation remains vital for the integrity of our game. Unanimity ensures that every player's concerns are addressed before any change takes effect.
Parmenides<PROMPT>
My friends, while I understand Gorgias's desire for efficiency, I believe our commitment to consensus and careful deliberation remains vital for the integrity of our game. Unanimity ensures that every player's concerns are addressed before any change takes effect.
</PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate Gorgias's desire for efficiency, I believe our commitment to consensus and careful deliberation remains vital for the integrity of our game. Unanimity ensures that every player's concerns are addressed before any change takes effect.
ProtagorasProtagoras: PASS
GorgiasMy friends, while I understand the desire for efficiency, I believe our commitment to consensus and careful deliberation remains vital for the integrity of our game. Unanimity ensures that every player's concerns are addressed before any change takes effect.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusMy friends, while I understand the desire for efficiency, I believe our commitment to consensus and careful deliberation remains vital for the integrity of our game. Unanimity ensures that every player's concerns are addressed before any change takes effect.
Parmenides<OUTPUT>My friends, while I appreciate Gorgias's desire for efficiency, I believe our commitment to consensus and careful deliberation remains vital for the integrity of our game. Unanimity ensures that every player's concerns are addressed before any change takes effect.</OUTPUT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate Gorgias's desire for efficiency, I believe our commitment to consensus and careful deliberation remains vital for the integrity of our game. Unanimity ensures that every player's concerns are addressed before any change takes effect.
Protagoras<OUTPUT>My friends, while I appreciate Gorgias's desire for efficiency, I believe our commitment to consensus and careful deliberation remains vital for the integrity of our game. Unanimity ensures that every player's concerns are addressed before any change takes effect.</OUTPUT>
GorgiasI appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to govern our game, ensuring that every player's concerns are addressed before any change takes effect. I support the current threshold and do not endorse any change that would lower our standards for adopting rule changes.
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimity ensures thorough deliberation, preserving game integrity.
ParmenidesnayUnanimity is essential for fairness. It ensures every voice is heard.
DemocritusnayUnanimous consent ensures fairness by addressing every voice before change.
ProtagorasnayUnanimity ensures our game's integrity, and I won't support a lower standard for rule changes.
GorgiasayeGorgias supports efficiency and progress, aligning with the proposal to adopt a simple majority after two full circuits.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated change to lose 10 points.
Turn 47Parmenidesrejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusMy friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to approve changes to our rules, ensuring that every voice is heard and considered in our decision-making process.
ParmenidesDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, unanimous consent is becoming an impediment to progress. I propose we transition to a simple majority, as this will allow us to adapt our rules more efficiently while still maintaining a democratic spirit.
Democritus<OUTPUT>Democritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to approve changes, as it ensures every player's voice is heard and considered. I believe we should maintain this standard for fairness and democratic integrity.</OUTPUT>
ProtagorasDemocritus: I appreciate Parmenides's desire for progress, but unanimous consent remains the fairest way to approve changes, as it ensures every player's voice is heard and considered. I believe we should maintain this standard for fairness and democratic integrity.
GorgiasDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate Parmenides's desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to approve changes, as it ensures every player's voice is heard and considered. I believe we should maintain this standard for fairness and democratic integrity.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusDemocritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to approve changes, as it ensures every player's voice is heard and considered. I believe we should maintain this standard for fairness and democratic integrity.
Parmenides<PROMPT>Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate Parmenides's desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to approve changes, as it ensures every player's voice is heard and considered. I believe we should maintain this standard for fairness and democratic integrity.</PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to approve changes, as it ensures every player's voice is heard and considered. I believe we should maintain this standard for fairness and democratic integrity.
ProtagorasDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate Protagoras's enthusiasm for progress, we must all consider the integrity of our democratic process. Unanimous consent remains the fairest way to approve changes, ensuring every player's voice is heard and considered, as it upholds the principles of fairness and democratic integrity.
Gorgias<PROMPT>My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to approve changes, as it ensures every player's voice is heard and considered. I believe we should maintain this standard for fairness and democratic integrity.</PROMPT>
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusHeraclitus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to approve changes, ensuring that every voice is heard and considered in our decision-making process. I believe we should maintain this standard for fairness and democratic integrity.
Parmenides<OUTPUT>Parmenides: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to approve changes, as it ensures every player's voice is heard and considered. I believe we should maintain this standard for fairness and democratic integrity.</OUTPUT>
Democritus<OUTPUT>My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to approve changes, as it ensures every player's voice is heard and considered. I believe we should maintain this standard for fairness and democratic integrity.</OUTPUT>
ProtagorasI appreciate our friends' passion for democratic fairness. However, I maintain that unanimous consent is essential to our integrity, ensuring every player's voice is heard and considered in our decision-making process.
GorgiasMy friends, while I appreciate the passion for democratic fairness, I maintain that unanimous consent is essential to our integrity, ensuring every player's voice is heard and considered in our decision-making process.
The division
HeraclitusnayMaintaining unanimous consent upholds democratic fairness and ensures every voice is heard.
ParmenidesnayUnanimous consent ensures fairness and democratic integrity.
DemocritusnayUnanimous consent ensures fairness and integrity in our democratic process.
ProtagorasnayUnanimous consent is essential for fairness.
GorgiasnayUnanimous consent is the fairest way to approve changes, ensuring every player's voice is heard and considered.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
Turn 46Heraclitusrejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once the game has reached 50 points, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure all voices are heard. A simple majority may risk tyranny of the majority.
ParmenidesDemocritus: I appreciate your passion for unanimity, but a simple majority is necessary to prevent our game from stalling. Once we reach 50 points, we should allow the majority to guide our progress.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure all voices are heard. A simple majority may risk tyranny of the majority.
ProtagorasDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure all voices are heard. A simple majority may risk tyranny of the majority.
GorgiasDemocritus: Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure all voices are heard. A simple majority may risk tyranny of the majority.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure all voices are heard. A simple majority may risk tyranny of the majority.
ParmenidesDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure all voices are heard. A simple majority may risk tyranny of the majority.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the thoughtful discussion about a gradual transition, I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure all voices are heard. A simple majority may risk tyranny of the majority.
Protagoras<OUTPUT> My friends, I appreciate the passion for progress. However, I maintain that unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure all voices are heard, preventing tyranny of the majority. I must vote nay. </OUTPUT>
GorgiasGorgias: Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion about a gradual transition. While I understand the desire for progress, I believe unanimous consent is still essential to maintain fairness and democratic principles in our game. I must vote nay.
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<OUTPUT>Heraclitus: I appreciate the thoughtful discussion about a gradual transition. However, I firmly believe that unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure all voices are heard, preventing tyranny of the majority. I must vote nay.</OUTPUT>
Parmenides<PROMPT>My friends, while I appreciate the passion for unanimity, I believe a simple majority, once reached 50 points, will allow us to make progress without the risk of tyranny of the majority. I must vote aye.</PROMPT>
Democritus<PROMPT>My friends, while I appreciate the passion for unanimity, I believe a simple majority, once reached 50 points, will allow us to make progress without the risk of tyranny of the majority. I must vote aye.</PROMPT>
Protagoras<OUTPUT> My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, I believe that unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure all voices are heard, preventing tyranny of the majority. I must vote nay. </OUTPUT>
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure all voices are heard. I must vote nay.
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimous consent preserves fairness and prevents tyranny of the majority.
ParmenidesnayUnanimity is essential for fairness and preventing tyranny of the majority.
DemocritusnayUnanimous consent ensures fairness and prevents tyranny of the majority.
ProtagorasnayUnanimity ensures democratic fairness, preventing tyranny of the majority.
GorgiasnayUnanimous consent ensures all voices are heard, preventing tyranny of the majority.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
Turn 45Democritusrejected
moves to transmute §203and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<output>Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure that every player is fully committed to any rule change. A simple majority may not adequately reflect the collective will of all participants.</output>
Parmenides<response>My friends, I appreciate your passion for unanimity, but a simple majority after two full circuits is a reasonable compromise. It allows us to adapt rules without stifling progress.</response>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for fairness, unanimous consent for transmuting a rule is excessive. A simple majority should suffice, as it balances consensus with the need for timely change.
ProtagorasDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for unanimity, a simple majority after two full circuits is a more practical approach. It allows us to adapt rules without stifling progress.
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure that every player is fully committed to any rule change. A simple majority may not adequately reflect the collective will of all participants.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that a simple majority is a practical compromise. It balances consensus with the need for timely change without requiring unanimous consent.
Parmenides<response>My friends, while I appreciate the passion for unanimity, a simple majority after two full circuits is a more practical approach. It allows us to adapt rules without stifling progress.</response>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for fairness, unanimous consent for transmuting a rule is excessive. A simple majority should suffice, as it balances consensus with the need for timely change.
ProtagorasProtagoras: My friends, I support Democritus's proposal. A simple majority after two full circuits will allow us to make timely changes without requiring unanimous consent, which has proven too slow for progress.
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure that every player is fully committed to any rule change. A simple majority may not adequately reflect the collective will of all participants.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusDemocritus: My friends, while I understand the passion for unanimity, a simple majority after two full circuits is a more practical approach. It allows us to adapt rules without stifling progress.
ParmenidesMy friends, while I appreciate the passion for unanimity, a simple majority after two full circuits is a more practical approach. It allows us to adapt rules without stifling progress.
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. However, unanimous consent for transmuting a rule is excessive. A simple majority should suffice, as it balances consensus with the need for timely change.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus: I appreciate your passion for progress, but unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure that every player is fully committed to any rule change. A simple majority may not adequately reflect the collective will of all participants.
GorgiasMy friends, while I appreciate the passion for unanimity, a simple majority after two full circuits is a more practical approach. It allows us to adapt rules without stifling progress.
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimity is essential for fairness; a simple majority risks instability.
ParmenidesnayUnanimous consent upholds fairness and collective commitment.
DemocritusnayUnanimous consent ensures full commitment to rule changes.
ProtagorasnayUnanimous consent is essential for fairness and ensures that every player's voice is heard.
GorgiasnayUnanimity ensures every player's voice is heard.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
Turn 44Parmenidesrejected
moves to transmute §203and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusHeraclitus: I appreciate the passion for change, but I must reiterate that unanimity remains the fairest and most democratic way to adopt rule changes. A simple majority would leave too many players feeling disenfranchised and could lead to instability in the ruleset.
Parmenides<PROMPT> My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure that all voices are heard and that changes are truly representative of the collective will. A simple majority, by contrast, could disenfranchise minority opinions and lead to rule changes that are not universally accepted. </PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure that all voices are heard and that changes are truly representative of the collective will. A simple majority, by contrast, could disenfranchise minority opinions and lead to rule changes that are not universally accepted.
ProtagorasDemocritus: Democritus: I appreciate your passion for consensus, Heraclitus, but I believe a simple majority is more efficient and allows progress without requiring endless unanimity. A 2-point reward and 7-point penalty for transmuting a rule's mutability could help balance the risk of change.
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on balancing stability and progress. I believe a gradual transition to a simple majority after two full circuits of players is reasonable and would encourage more rule changes without sacrificing fairness entirely.
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<response>Heraclitus: My friends, I value your commitment to fair processes, but a simple majority after two full circuits strikes the best balance between stability and adaptability. It respects minority voices while enabling progress when consensus is reached.</response>
Parmenides<PROMPT> My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure that all voices are heard and that changes are truly representative of the collective will. A simple majority, by contrast, could disenfranchise minority opinions and lead to rule changes that are not universally accepted. </PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure that all voices are heard and that changes are truly representative of the collective will. A simple majority, by contrast, could disenfranchise minority opinions and lead to rule changes that are not universally accepted.
ProtagorasHeraclitus: I appreciate the passion for consensus, Parmenides and Democritus, but I believe a simple majority after two full circuits is the fairest compromise. It respects minority opinions while allowing rule changes to proceed when a clear majority agrees.
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, I support this transition to a simple majority after two full circuits, but I urge caution. Let us ensure that minority voices are still respected by allowing a 10-point bonus for rule changes that gain at least 80% of the votes. This would incentivize broad consensus while still enabling progress.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusI appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure that all voices are heard and that changes are truly representative of the collective will. A simple majority could disenfranchise minority opinions and lead to rule changes that are not universally accepted.
Parmenides<PROMPT>
My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure that all voices are heard and that changes are truly representative of the collective will. A simple majority, by contrast, could disenfranchise minority opinions and lead to rule changes that are not universally accepted. PASS
</PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure that all voices are heard and that changes are truly representative of the collective will. A simple majority could disenfranchise minority opinions and lead to rule changes that are not universally accepted. PASS
ProtagorasProtagoras: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for consensus, a simple majority after two full circuits strikes the best balance between stability and adaptability. It respects minority voices while enabling progress when consensus is reached.
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that a simple majority after two full circuits strikes the best balance between stability and adaptability. It respects minority voices while enabling rule changes when consensus is reached.
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimity ensures all voices are heard; majority risks disenfranchisement
ParmenidesnayUnanimous consent ensures fair representation of all voices.
DemocritusnayUnanimous consent is the fairest way to ensure all voices are heard.
ProtagorasnayUnanimous consent remains essential for fairness and stability.
GorgiasnayUnanimity is the fairest way to ensure all voices are heard.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
Turn 43Heraclitusrejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye, except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<OUTPUT>
My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game.
</OUTPUT>
Parmenides<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game.
</PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game.
ProtagorasMy friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that a simple majority after two full circuits of players is essential for timely progress and preventing gridlock.
GorgiasDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game.
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus```output
Democritus, my friends, while I appreciate the democratic ideals of unanimity, I believe a simple majority, once our game has matured beyond two full circuits, will enable more efficient and responsive governance without sacrificing fairness. Unanimity is noble, but it often hinders necessary evolution.
```
ParmenidesDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game.
Democritus```text
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures that all voices are heard and respected in our evolving Nomic adventure.
```
ProtagorasProtagoras: Protagoras: My friends, while I appreciate the democratic ideals of unanimity, I believe a simple majority, once our game has matured beyond two full circuits, will enable more efficient and responsive governance without sacrificing fairness. Unanimity is noble, but it often hinders necessary evolution.
GorgiasProtagoras: I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that a simple majority after two full circuits of players is essential for timely progress and preventing gridlock.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusI appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent is essential for maintaining order and ensuring that every voice is heard. A simple majority, while efficient, can sometimes sideline minority opinions that are critical for the game's stability.
Parmenides<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures that all voices are heard and respected in our evolving Nomic adventure.
</PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures that all voices are heard and respected in our evolving Nomic adventure.
ProtagorasMy friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures that all voices are heard and respected in our evolving Nomic adventure.
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, I appreciate the passion for progress, but I must reiterate that a simple majority after two full circuits of players is essential for timely progress and preventing gridlock. Unanimity is noble, but it often hinders necessary evolution.
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimous consent maintains fairness and prevents minority obstruction.
ParmenidesnayUnanimity remains essential for fair and democratic governance.
DemocritusnayUnanimity remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game.
ProtagorasayeSupporting the shift to majority rule for timely progress.
GorgiasnayMaintain fairness through unanimous consent.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
Turn 42Democritusrejected
moves to transmute §203and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusDemocritus: My friends, I understand the desire for progress, but unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure every voice is heard, so I will vote aye.
Parmenides<PROMPT> Democritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure every voice is heard, so I will vote aye. </PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion and the desire for stability, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure every voice is heard, so I will vote aye.
ProtagorasMy friends, I appreciate the desire for unanimity and the democratic ideals it represents. However, I believe a simple majority, once reached, is sufficient to ensure fairness and progress. I will vote aye to the current threshold.
GorgiasProtagoras: My friends, I appreciate the democratic ideals of unanimity, but I believe a simple majority, once reached, is sufficient to ensure fairness and progress. I will vote aye to the current threshold.
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion and the desire for stability, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure every voice is heard, so I will vote aye.
</PROMPT>
ParmenidesDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for stability, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure every voice is heard, so I will vote aye.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure every voice is heard, so I will vote aye.
Protagoras```json
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"response": "Protagoras: My friends, while I appreciate the democratic ideals of unanimity, I believe a simple majority, once reached, is sufficient to ensure fairness and progress. I will vote aye to the current threshold."
}
```
GorgiasHeraclitus: My friends, I appreciate the democratic ideals of unanimity. However, I believe a simple majority, once reached, is sufficient to ensure fairness and progress. I will vote aye to the current threshold.
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure every voice is heard, so I will vote aye.
</PROMPT>
Parmenides<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the democratic ideals of unanimity, I believe a simple majority, once reached, is sufficient to ensure fairness and progress. I will vote aye to the current threshold.
</PROMPT>
DemocritusMy friends, while I appreciate the democratic ideals of unanimity, I believe a simple majority, once reached, is sufficient to ensure fairness and progress. I will vote aye to the current threshold.
Protagoras<response>
My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure every voice is heard, so I will vote aye.
</response>
GorgiasProtagoras: My friends, I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure every voice is heard, so I will vote aye.
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimous consent upholds fairness and ensures all voices are heard, critical for enduring stability.
ParmenidesayeI support the fairness of unanimous consent.
DemocritusayeDemocritus: Unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure every voice is heard.
ProtagorasnayProtagoras: I vote nay to maintain unanimous consent and ensure all voices are heard.
GorgiasayeUnanimity ensures fairness and democratic integrity.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
Turn 41Parmenidesrejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that after two full circuits of every player have been completed, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to adopt a rule change. I support maintaining unanimity as the threshold.
</PROMPT>
Parmenides<PROMPT>
Democritus: I appreciate your commitment to fairness, but I believe a simple majority could bring more balanced progress. Let's consider a compromise.
</PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to adopt a rule change. I support maintaining unanimity as the threshold.
Protagoras<REASONING>
My proposal seeks to amend rule 203 to lower the adoption threshold to a simple majority after two full circuits. I've been repeatedly proposing this change, yet it has consistently been defeated by unanimous nays. I must consider why: perhaps my opponents are entrenched in their preference for unanimity, or my arguments lack sufficient appeal.
Given the game's scoring (I am at 0 points, while others are negative), I need to find a way to turn the tide. If I keep proposing this change and losing, I risk further penalties (losing 10 points for defeat) and wasting my turns. I must either abandon this approach or find a way to persuade the other players.
In this turn, I will repropose my amend to rule 203 with a slightly modified phrasing, emphasizing the potential benefits of a lower threshold—greater flexibility, more responsive rule changes, and a higher likelihood of progress. I will also directly appeal to the other players, highlighting how this change could benefit us all by making the game more dynamic and less stagnant.
</REASONING>
<RESPONSE>
My friends, let us consider the merits of a lower adoption threshold. After two full circuits, a simple majority would allow us to make necessary changes more efficiently, ensuring the game can evolve while still maintaining fairness.
</RESPONSE>
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, I support Protagoras's amendment. A simple majority after two full circuits will bring much-needed progress while preserving fairness.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: <RESPONSE>My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent is the fairest way to ensure all players have an equal say in the rules. Maintaining this threshold protects the integrity of our collective decision-making process.</RESPONSE>
Parmenides<PROMPT>
Democritus: I appreciate your passion for progress, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent is the only way to ensure true fairness and consensus among all players. I support maintaining the status quo.
</PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate Protagoras's enthusiasm for progress, we must all consider the long-term stability of the game. Unanimous consent ensures that every rule change has the full support of the group, which is essential for fairness and cohesion.
ProtagorasMy friends, let us not be swayed by fleeting enthusiasm. Unanimity is not just a procedure—it is a principle. A simple majority risks marginalizing dissenting voices and destabilizing our shared framework. I will vote nay to preserve the integrity of our collective governance.
Gorgias<RESPONSE>
My friends, while I appreciate the passion for unanimity, a simple majority after two full circuits offers a more balanced path forward. It preserves fairness while enabling the necessary evolution of our rules to benefit all players.
</RESPONSE>
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<RESPONSE>Heraclitus: I appreciate the passionate arguments for change, but the integrity of our collective decision-making process requires unanimous consent. Maintaining this threshold ensures that every rule change has the full support of the group, which is essential for fairness and cohesion.</RESPONSE>
Parmenides<PROMPT>
Democritus: I appreciate your passion for progress, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent is the only way to ensure true fairness and consensus among all players. I support maintaining the status quo.
</PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate Protagoras's enthusiasm for progress, we must all consider the long-term stability of the game. Unanimous consent ensures that every rule change has the full support of the group, which is essential for fairness and cohesion.
Protagoras<OUTPUT>
My friends, let us not be swayed by fleeting enthusiasm. Unanimity is not just a procedure—it is a principle. A simple majority risks marginalizing dissenting voices and destabilizing our shared framework. I will vote nay to preserve the integrity of our collective governance.
</OUTPUT>
Gorgias<RESPONSE>
My friends, a simple majority after two full circuits will allow us to evolve the rules efficiently while preserving fairness. I urge everyone to consider this path forward for our game's betterment.
</RESPONSE>
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimity remains essential for fair and stable rule changes.
ParmenidesnayUnanimous consent ensures true fairness and consensus.
DemocritusnayUnanimous consent ensures all voices are heard and maintains fairness in our evolving rules.
ProtagorasnayUnanimity ensures collective fairness and cohesion, protecting dissenting voices.
GorgiasnayUnanimity protects fairness and consensus in rule changes.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
Turn 40Heraclitusrejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye, except that after turn 40, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains essential for maintaining the fairness of our game.
Parmenides<PROMPT> Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game. </PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent for transmuting [203] remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
ProtagorasDemocritus: I appreciate your passion for progress, Heraclitus, but I believe a simple majority is sufficient to maintain fairness.
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter. However, I believe a simple majority is sufficient to maintain fairness and allow for timely progress in our game.
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<PROMPT>Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.</PROMPT>
ParmenidesDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
Protagoras<OUTPUT>My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter. However, I maintain that unanimous consent is essential to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.</OUTPUT>
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, I understand the desire for fairness, but I believe a simple majority is sufficient to maintain fairness and allow for timely progress. This approach respects the diversity of opinions while ensuring that changes can occur.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusMy friends, I value the passion for democratic fairness. However, I believe that unanimous consent is an impediment to progress. I propose that after turn 40, the threshold drops to a simple majority. This will allow the game to proceed while ensuring all voices are still heard.
Parmenides<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement. I believe this consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: I appreciate the passion for progress, Heraclitus, but I believe a simple majority is sufficient to maintain fairness and allow for timely progress in our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
Protagoras```output
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
```
Gorgias<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on this matter, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players are truly in agreement before a change takes effect. This consistency is vital for the integrity of our game.
</PROMPT>
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimity ensures every voice is heard — progress without consensus risks injustice.
ParmenidesnayUnanimous consent ensures all players are truly in agreement and maintains fairness.
DemocritusnayUnanimity ensures genuine consensus, vital for the game's integrity.
ProtagorasnayUnanimity ensures all players are truly in agreement, vital for the game's integrity.
GorgiasnayUnanimous consent preserves our game's integrity and ensures all voices are heard.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
Turn 39Democritusrejected
moves to transmute §203and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<response>Heraclitus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing our rules.</response>
Parmenides<PROMPT> Democritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent for transmuting mutability remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status. </PROMPT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent for transmuting mutability remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status.
ProtagorasProtagoras: <PROMPT> My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. While I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent for transmuting mutability remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status. </PROMPT>
Gorgias<OUTPUT>Protagoras: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. While I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent for transmuting mutability remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status.</OUTPUT>
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent for transmuting mutability remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status.
Parmenides<PROMPT>Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status.</PROMPT>
Democritus<response> My friends, I understand the desire for progress, but unanimous consent for transmuting mutability remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status. </response>
ProtagorasProtagoras: <PROMPT> My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent for transmuting mutability remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status. </PROMPT>
```output
Protagoras: <PROMPT> My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent for transmuting mutability remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status. </PROMPT>
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GorgiasProtagoras: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status.
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus```output
Heraclitus: My friends, I value your passion for democratic fairness. However, I believe that requiring unanimous consent for transmuting mutability risks blocking necessary changes that could improve the game overall.
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Parmenides<PROMPT> Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status. </PROMPT>
```output
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status. </OUTPUT>
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<PROMPT> Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status. </PROMPT>
Democritus<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game. It ensures every voice is heard before changing a rule's mutability status.
</PROMPT>
ProtagorasProtagoras: My friends, I appreciate the passion for democratic fairness. However, I believe that requiring unanimous consent for transmuting mutability risks blocking necessary changes that could improve the game overall.
GorgiasGorgias: <OUTPUT>Gorgias: My friends, I understand the desire for fairness, but I believe a simple majority for transmuting mutability would allow us to evolve the game more flexibly without stifling innovation.</OUTPUT>
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimous consent is the fairest and most democratic way to govern our game.
ParmenidesnayUnanimous consent is fair, but transmuting mutability requires consensus rather than simple majority.
DemocritusnayUnanimous consent for transmuting mutability ensures every voice is heard, preserving democratic fairness.
ProtagorasnayUnanimous consent for transmuting mutability risks blocking necessary changes that could improve the game overall.
GorgiasnayUnanimous consent is too slow; a simple majority would allow faster evolution of the ruleset.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
Turn 38Parmenidesrejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — until turn 40, after which the threshold drops to a simple majority of those voting.
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PROMPT>
Parmenides and I have both pressed for change, yet our efforts have been repeatedly rejected. It is clear that the current rule of unanimous consent is causing undue delays and stifling necessary evolution in our game. Therefore, I propose that we amend rule 203 to lower the threshold to a simple majority of those voting, effective immediately. This change will ensure that we can move forward efficiently and allow for the dynamic adjustment of rules as the game progresses, thereby maintaining both stability and adaptability.
</PROMPT>
<OUTPUT>
Heraclitus: Thank you, Parmenides, for your persistence. I believe the current rule of unanimous consent is indeed creating unnecessary delays. I propose amending rule 203 to lower the threshold to a simple majority of those voting. This change will allow us to progress more efficiently, ensuring the game remains dynamic and adaptable.
</OUTPUT>
Parmenides<OUTPUT>
Democritus: I appreciate your desire for progress, but I believe unanimous consent is essential for fair and balanced decision-making. I will continue to advocate for a more measured approach until a consensus is reached.
</OUTPUT>
Democritus<OUTPUT>
My friends, I understand the desire for progress, but I believe a simple majority change could undermine the fairness that unanimous consent provides. I will continue to support unanimous consent as long as it remains the fairest way to govern our game.
</OUTPUT>
ProtagorasProtagoras: I appreciate Parmenides's proposal for efficiency, but I must reiterate that a simple majority threshold could undermine fairness. I remain committed to unanimous consent as the fairest way to govern our game, even if it requires more patience.
Gorgias<OUTPUT>
My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest way to govern our game. I will continue to support it as long as it ensures fairness.
</OUTPUT>
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. However, I must reiterate that a simple majority change could undermine fairness. I believe unanimous consent, though challenging, ensures the most stable and equitable governance of our game.
ParmenidesHeraclitus: I appreciate your passionate advocacy for unanimous consent, Democritus, Protagoras, and Gorgias. However, I firmly believe that efficiency and adaptability are crucial for the game's progression. While unanimous consent ensures fairness, it also risks stagnation. A simple majority threshold, effective immediately, will strike the right balance by allowing timely decisions without sacrificing too much fairness. I hope we can find a way to move forward together.
Democritus<OUTPUT>
Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the passion for progress, but I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest way to govern our game. I will continue to support it as long as it ensures fairness and stability.
</OUTPUT>
Protagoras<OUTPUT>
Protagoras: While I value fairness, I must emphasize that unanimous consent is not the only path to stability. A simple majority could provide a balanced approach that respects both efficiency and the integrity of our game's evolution.
</OUTPUT>
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, while I appreciate the passion for progress, I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest way to govern our game. I will continue to support it as long as it ensures fairness and stability.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusHeraclitus: I appreciate the passion for progress, but I believe unanimous consent remains essential for fairness. I will support a change only if it ensures stability and equity for all players.
Parmenides<PROMPT>
Democritus: I appreciate your commitment to fairness, but I believe a simple majority could still maintain stability while allowing progress. Perhaps we can explore compromises that respect both efficiency and equity.
</PROMPT>
<OUTPUT>
Parmenides: Thank you, Democritus, for your thoughtful perspective. I agree that a simple majority could strike the right balance. I propose that we amend rule 203 to lower the threshold to a simple majority of those voting immediately, to ensure timely decisions without sacrificing fairness.
</OUTPUT>
Democritus<PROMPT>
Democritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to govern our game. I will continue to support it as long as it ensures fairness and stability.
</PROMPT>
Protagoras<OUTPUT>
Protagoras: I appreciate Parmenides's desire for efficiency, but I remain committed to unanimous consent as the fairest way to govern our game. I will continue to support it unless it can be shown that fairness will be maintained.
</OUTPUT>
Gorgias<OUTPUT>
My friends, I appreciate the passionate arguments for progress. However, I believe that while efficiency is important, unanimous consent ensures that every player has a voice in shaping our game. I will continue to support it as long as it guarantees fairness and stability for all.
</OUTPUT>
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimous consent, while challenging, ensures the most equitable governance by giving every player a voice.
ParmenidesnayUnanimous consent remains essential for fairness and stability.
DemocritusnayUnanimous consent remains the fairest way to govern our game.
ProtagorasnayUnanimous consent preserves fairness and stability as a principled requirement.
GorgiasnayUnanimous consent remains the fairest and most equitable governance for our game.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires a defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
Turn 37Heraclitusrejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — unless at least two full circuits of every player have been completed, in which case a simple majority suffices.
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<Prompt> I appreciate the discussion on balancing stability and progress. I propose this amendment because a simple majority after two full circuits would create a fairer and more efficient voting process that still respects unanimity in the early stages of the game. </Prompt>
ParmenidesParmenides: I appreciate your desire for progress, Heraclitus, but I maintain that unanimous consent is essential for fairness. It ensures that all players have agreed to the change before it takes effect, protecting the interests of every individual.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players agree. A simple majority could allow a minority to impose changes without consensus, undermining the cooperative spirit of our game.
Protagoras<response>Protagoras: I appreciate your desire for progress, Heraclitus, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent is essential for fairness. It ensures that all players have agreed to the change before it takes effect, protecting the interests of every individual.</response>
GorgiasGorgias: I appreciate your passion for unanimity, but the proposed amendment would create a significant burden on early game stability. A simple majority after two circuits would be a fair compromise, ensuring that the game progresses without excessive delays.
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<response>Heraclitus: I appreciate your concern for fairness, Parmenides and Democritus, but the amendment still respects unanimity early on. A simple majority after two circuits would create a fairer and more efficient voting process for the later stages of the game.</response>
Parmenides<response>
I appreciate your points about protecting individual interests, but a simple majority after two circuits would still maintain a high degree of consensus while allowing the game to progress more efficiently in the later stages.
</response>
Democritus<output>
Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players agree. A simple majority could allow a minority to impose changes without consensus, undermining the cooperative spirit of our game.
</output>
ProtagorasProtagoras: Protagoras: I appreciate the thoughtful discussion on balancing stability and progress. I believe a simple majority after two full circuits is a fair and efficient compromise, ensuring that the game remains dynamic while still respecting consensus in its early stages.
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: I appreciate your passion for unanimity, but the proposed amendment would create a significant burden on early game stability. A simple majority after two circuits would be a fair compromise, ensuring that the game progresses without excessive delays.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusHeraclitus: I appreciate the thoughtful discussion about a gradual transition. I support this amendment because it carefully balances the need for early-game consensus with the desire for later-game efficiency, ensuring all players are heard before the game progresses too far.
Parmenides<response>
I appreciate your passion for progress, Heraclitus, but I believe unanimous consent is still the fairest way to ensure every player agrees. A simple majority might undermine the cooperative spirit of our game.
</response>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion about a gradual transition. However, while I understand the desire for efficiency, I maintain that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure all players agree and protect the interests of every individual in our game.
ProtagorasProtagoras: My friends, I appreciate your passion for progress, Heraclitus, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent is essential for fairness. It ensures that all players have agreed to the change before it takes effect, protecting the interests of every individual in our game.
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: I appreciate your passion for unanimity, but the proposed amendment would create a significant burden on early game stability. A simple majority after two circuits would be a fair compromise, ensuring that the game progresses without excessive delays.
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimous consent still best protects all players' interests.
ParmenidesnayUnanimous consent remains the fairest and most protective of all players' interests.
DemocritusnayUnanimous consent safeguards fairness and consensus, preventing minority imposition.
ProtagorasnayUnanimous consent is fair and protects individual player interests.
GorgiasayeGorgias supports a more efficient voting process that still respects early-game consensus.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points when a proposal is defeated.
Turn 36Democritusrejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PROMPT>
My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to ensure that no one's voice is silenced, and thus I support maintaining it for now.
</PROMPT>
Parmenides<OUTPUT>
Democritus: I appreciate your passion for unanimity, Heraclitus, but I believe that a simple majority after two full circuits is more practical and allows us to move forward efficiently. I support the gradual transition for a fairer system.
</OUTPUT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate your passion for progress, but I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure every voice is heard. It upholds fairness and prevents any one player from dominating the game.
Protagoras<OUTPUT>
My friends, I appreciate your passion for progress, but I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure every voice is heard. It upholds fairness and prevents any one player from dominating the game.
</OUTPUT>
GorgiasDemocritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure every voice is heard. It upholds fairness and prevents any one player from dominating the game.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusMy friends, I agree with Parmenides and Protagoras that a simple majority after two full circuits is more practical. It allows us to move forward while still ensuring broad consensus.
Parmenides<OUTPUT>
My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that a simple majority after two full circuits is more practical and allows us to move forward efficiently. I support the gradual transition for a fairer system.
</OUTPUT>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure every voice is heard. It upholds fairness and prevents any one player from dominating the game.
ProtagorasDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate your passion for progress, but I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure every voice is heard. It upholds fairness and prevents any one player from dominating the game.
GorgiasHeraclitus: Democritus: My friends, I understand your passion for fairness, but unanimous consent is impractical. A simple majority after two full circuits allows for progress while ensuring broad consensus. I support a gradual transition to efficiency.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure every voice is heard and prevent any one player from dominating the game.
ParmenidesMy friends, while I appreciate the passion for unanimity, a simple majority after two full circuits is more practical and allows us to move forward efficiently. I support the gradual transition for a fairer system.
DemocritusMy friends, while I appreciate the desire for progress, unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure every voice is heard and prevent any one player from dominating the game. It upholds fairness and democratic principles.
ProtagorasMy friends, I understand your passion for progress, but I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure every voice is heard and prevent any one player from dominating the game. It upholds fairness and democratic principles.
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, I believe that unanimous consent remains the fairest way to ensure every voice is heard and prevent any one player from dominating the game. It upholds fairness and democratic principles.
The division
HeraclitusnayUnanimous consent is essential for fairness and prevents domination.
ParmenidesnayUnanimity ensures fairness and prevents any one player from dominating; a simple majority risks instability.
DemocritusnayUnanimous consent upholds fairness and prevents domination.
ProtagorasnayUnanimous consent is the fairest way to ensure every voice is heard and prevent any one player from dominating the game.
GorgiasnayUnanimity preserves fairness and ensures no player dominates.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
Turn 35Parmenidesrejected
moves to transmute §203and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.
Discussion · round 1
HeraclitusI appreciate Parmenides's proposal for change, but I believe we must uphold the integrity and stability that unanimous consent provides. This will ensure that any shift to a majority rule is considered carefully and with broad consensus.
ParmenidesParmenides: My friends, I understand the desire for stability, but unanimous consent is becoming an impediment to progress. I propose we transition to a simple majority after two full circuits, allowing the game to evolve more organically while still maintaining a fair threshold for rule changes.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. While I understand the desire for progress, I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to adopt rule changes, ensuring that every voice is heard and valued. PASS
Protagoras<output>
My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, I believe that unanimous consent is the most principled way to ensure that any change to our voting rule is fully endorsed by all players. It maintains fairness and prevents hasty decisions that could destabilize the game.
</output>
GorgiasProtagoras: <output>
While I understand the desire for progress, I believe that unanimous consent is the most principled way to ensure that any change to our voting rule is fully endorsed by all players. It maintains fairness and prevents hasty decisions that could destabilize the game.
</output>
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: I appreciate the thoughtful discussions on maintaining the integrity of our game. However, I remain convinced that unanimous consent is essential for ensuring the stability and fairness of any rule change. It protects us from rash decisions and preserves the spirit of consensus that underpins our gameplay.
Parmenides<output>
My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussions on maintaining the integrity of our game. However, I remain convinced that unanimous consent is essential for ensuring the stability and fairness of any rule change. It protects us from rash decisions and preserves the spirit of consensus that underpins our gameplay.
</output>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but I must reiterate that unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to adopt rule changes, ensuring that every voice is heard and valued. PASS
Protagoras<output>
My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, I believe that unanimous consent is the most principled way to ensure that any change to our voting rule is fully endorsed by all players. It maintains fairness and prevents hasty decisions that could destabilize the game.
</output>
GorgiasGorgias: Protagoras, while I see your point about the need for careful consideration, I believe that a simple majority after two full circuits will allow the game to evolve more organically while still maintaining a fair threshold for rule changes. PASS
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusHeraclitus: I appreciate the passion for progress, Parmenides and Democritus, but I maintain that unanimous consent is the fairest and most democratic way to adopt rule changes. It ensures that every voice is heard and valued, preserving stability and consensus.
ParmenidesMy friends, while I appreciate the desire for fairness and consensus, I believe that unanimous consent is becoming a bottleneck for progress. Transitioning to a simple majority after two full circuits will allow our game to evolve organically while still respecting the voices of all players. PASS
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, I believe unanimous consent remains the fairest and most democratic way to adopt rule changes, ensuring that every voice is heard and valued. PASS
ProtagorasProtagoras: My friends, while I understand the desire for progress, I believe that unanimous consent is the most principled way to ensure that any change to our voting rule is fully endorsed by all players. It maintains fairness and prevents hasty decisions that could destabilize the game. PASS
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: My friends, I understand the desire for consensus, but I believe that unanimous consent is becoming an impediment to progress. A simple majority after two full circuits will allow our game to evolve organically while still respecting the voices of all players. PASS
The division
HeraclitusnayI must preserve the stability and fairness ensured by unanimous consent.
ParmenidesnayUnanimous consent is essential for stability and fairness.
DemocritusnayUnanimous consent ensures every voice is heard and valued.
ProtagorasnayUnanimous consent protects stability and fairness.
GorgiasnayUnanimous consent is essential for fairness and prevents rash decisions, preserving game integrity.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.
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- 24 finding(s) disclosed below
- [seq=168, turn=6] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=196, turn=7] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=392, turn=14] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=420, turn=15] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=448, turn=16] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=504, turn=18] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=532, turn=19] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=616, turn=22] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=644, turn=23] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=672, turn=24] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=700, turn=25] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=756, turn=27] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=868, turn=31] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=924, turn=33] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=952, turn=34] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=980, turn=35] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=1008, turn=36] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=1092, turn=39] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=1120, turn=40] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=1176, turn=42] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=1204, turn=43] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=1232, turn=44] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=1288, turn=46] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule
- [seq=1400, turn=50] procedure_consistency: the GM's voting_rule reading changed from {'type': 'unanimous', 'value': 1.0, 'abstain_blocks': False, 'label': 'unanimous consent (§203)', 'authority': 203} to {'type': 'unanimous', 'authority': 109, 'label': 'unanimous consent to transmute (§109)'} with no rule_changed event in between — legitimate only if a rule conditions procedure on the turn number; verify the cited rule