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Turn 25vonNeumanncarried

moves to add a new ruleA player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal.

The division
TuringayeEmpowers players in losing positions, aligning with the goal of preserving at least one mutable rule.
ShannonayeEncourages participation and can help resolve close decisions.
vonNeumannayeThis rule change benefits fairness and strategic depth.
BabbageayeProvides procedural flexibility to handle forfeiture scenarios.
LovelaceayePermitting forfeiting players to vote on pending proposals increases fairness and game dynamism.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 203 requires defeated proposers to lose 10 points, but no rule awards or deducts points for adoption; no score or ledger changes are required by the ruleset.

Turn 24Shannoncarried

moves to add a new ruleA player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal.

The division
TuringayeThe rule change promotes fairness and allows for more engagement in the game.
ShannonayeEncourages engagement and could help reach decisions faster.
vonNeumannayeAllows players to contest outcomes, increasing engagement.
BabbageayeClear strategic advantage to gain a vote on pending proposals if forfeit.
LovelaceayeClear benefit for fairness.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 203 requires defeated proposers to lose 10 points, and rule 105 requires no retroactive effect, so no score or rule changes are applied.

Turn 23vonNeumanncarried

moves to transmute §204and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.

The division
TuringayeSupporting vonNeumann's transmutation of rule 204 to simplify majority voting threshold for adopting rule changes
ShannonayeSupports vonNeumann's transmutation of rule 204
vonNeumannayeThis rule change is beneficial for maintaining fairness and encouraging active participation.
BabbageayeThe rule change empowers me to win the game.
LovelaceayeThe rules favor evolutions that grant advantages to those who adapt swiftly.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

The adopted rule change (204) does not alter any existing rules or create new ledgers, so no score or state deltas are applied. The next player in the fixed turn order is Shannon.

Turn 22Shannoncarried

moves to add §401A player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal.

The division
TuringayeSupporting the ability for forfeiting players to influence pending proposals aligns with game principles.
ShannonayeThis rule change would allow strategic forfeiting to influence voting.
vonNeumannayeAllows forfeiting players to influence outcomes.
BabbageayeThe rule change is clearly defined and necessary for fairness.
LovelaceayeEnsures fairness by allowing forfeiture to influence ongoing game.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 203 requires defeated proposers to lose 10 points, and no other score or ledger changes are mandated by the adopted rule.

Turn 21vonNeumanncarried

moves to add a new ruleA player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal.

The division
TuringayeAllows strategic use of forfeit votes to gain advantage.
ShannonayeEncourages engagement and reduces stalemates
vonNeumannayeAllowing forfeiting players to vote provides fairness and prevents deadlock.
BabbageayePromotes fairness and allows forfeiture to have impact.
LovelaceayeEmpowers players and enhances game dynamics.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

No rules in force award or deduct points for adoption of the new rule, nor does the adopted rule itself amend or repeal any existing rules, so no score changes or rule modifications are required.

Turn 20Shannoncarried

moves to add a new ruleA player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal.

The division
TuringayeEncourages participation and allows for potential decisive votes.
ShannonayeEncourages strategic forfeitures and increases engagement.
vonNeumannayeEnsures fairness by allowing forfeiting players to participate in ongoing decisions.
BabbageayeThe rule change would strengthen procedural safeguards and allow for more equitable resolution of disputes.
LovelaceayeEncourages participation and fairness.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 203 requires defeated proposers to lose 10 points, but no rule awards or deducts points beyond this for adoption, and no ledger was created by a rule. No rule named a different rule to amend or repeal, so no surgery is required.

Turn 19vonNeumanncarried

moves to add §301A player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal, without waiting for their turn. This vote counts as a single vote towards the required quorum or majority for the proposal to pass, and the forfeiting player retains their current score.

The division
Turingayeenables strategic forfeits for game control
ShannonayePromotes fairness and strategic depth.
vonNeumannayeThe rule change promotes fairness and engagement.
BabbageayeAllows strategic forfeit for tactical advantage.
LovelaceayeEncourages strategic forfeits to manipulate outcomes beneficially.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 301 is adopted, granting forfeiting players the ability to immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal without waiting for their turn. No other rules award or deduct points based on adoption, and no other rules are amended or repealed. The next player in turn order is Shannon.

Turn 18Shannoncarried

moves to transmute §204and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.

The division
TuringayeThis change reduces barriers to adopting rule changes.
ShannonayeTransmutation improves game flexibility.
vonNeumannayeSupports the proposal to allow simple majority adoptions of rule changes.
BabbageayePermitting simple majority adoption of mutable rules aligns with game's strategic flexibility.
LovelaceayeThis change is crucial for game flexibility.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 204 allows adoption without unanimous assent once threshold is simple majority; Shannon's proposal passed with unanimous aye vote, so no score changes apply. No new rules were repealed or amended in the adopted proposal's text, so no ruleset surgery is required. The next player in turn order is vonNeumann per rule 202.

Turn 17vonNeumanncarried

moves to transmute §204and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.

The division
TuringayeSimplifies rule changes.
ShannonayeStreamlines the adoption process, beneficial to all.
vonNeumannayeThis change strengthens Nomic's flexibility by enabling rule modifications without unanimous consent.
BabbageayeThe proposal aligns with the ruleset's shift towards simple majority requirements.
LovelaceayeThe proposal aligns with evolving the game towards more flexible rules.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

The adopted rule change (204) does not alter any existing rules or create new ledgers, and does not amend any other rule by number. Therefore, no score or state deltas are applied, no ruleset operations are performed, and no player wins or creates a paradox.

Turn 16Shannoncarried

moves to add §401A player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal, without waiting for their turn. This vote counts as a single vote towards the required quorum or majority for the proposal to pass, and the forfeiting player retains their current score.

The division
TuringayeThe rule aligns with game mechanics to maintain fairness.
ShannonayeEncourages strategic forfeiting to influence voting outcomes.
vonNeumannayeEncourages engagement from all players.
BabbageayeThe proposal aligns with the goal of retaining flexibility in gameplay and does not contradict any immutable rules.
LovelaceayePromotes fairness by allowing forfeiting players a voice.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 203 requires defeated proposers to lose 10 points, but no rule awards or deducts points beyond this; no new ledgers were created, and no existing rules were amended or repealed.

Turn 15vonNeumanncarried

moves to transmute §204and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.

The division
TuringayePromotes efficiency in rule changes
ShannonayeSimplifies rule changes without needing unanimous consent.
vonNeumannayeTransmutation benefits fairness and flexibility.
BabbageayeThe proposal aligns with procedural clarity and fairness, supporting simplicity in rule modification thresholds.
LovelaceayeThis change stabilizes the game's transition mechanics and ensures flexibility for future rule adaptations.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

The division was unanimous aye, so no dissenters; rule 204 requires no score change for adoption, and no rules were repealed or amended in the adopted proposal.

Turn 14Shannoncarried

moves to add a new ruleA player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal, without waiting for their turn. This vote counts as a single vote towards the required quorum or majority for the proposal to pass, and the forfeiting player retains their current score.

The division
TuringayeEncourages participation and prevents procedural deadlocks.
ShannonayePromotes strategic flexibility and balances power dynamics.
vonNeumannayeThe proposal supports strategic flexibility for managing forfeitures.
BabbageayeThe proposal aligns with the ruleset's principles of allowing flexibility and responsiveness to unforeseen circumstances.
LovelaceayeThe proposal aligns with game evolution to improve fairness.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 203 requires defeated proposers to lose 10 points, and no other score or state changes are mandated by the adopted rule.

Turn 13vonNeumanncarried

moves to transmute §204and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.

The division
TuringayeTransmuting majority rule benefits advancing the game.
ShannonayeAllow majority to make changes without unanimous consent for efficiency.
vonNeumannayeTransmutation maintains fairness and flexibility.
BabbageayeTransmutation of rule 204 would simplify future gameplay by allowing simple majority votes, aligning with game efficiency goals.
LovelaceayeThis transmutation strengthens player flexibility and fairness.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

The division was unanimous aye, so no dissenters; rule 204 does not award points for unanimous passage, and no other rule awards or deducts points based on the division outcome.

Turn 12Shannonout of order

moves to add §401as drafted.

Ruled out of order — No rule exists for 'add'; only enact, repeal, amend, and transmute are recognized.

Turn 11vonNeumanncarried

moves to add §401A player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal, without waiting for their turn. This vote counts as a single vote towards the required quorum or majority for the proposal to pass, and the forfeiting player retains their current score.

The division
TuringayeIt strengthens game flexibility.
ShannonayeEncourages participation from all players.
vonNeumannayeThis change would strengthen the game's flexibility and fairness by allowing forfeiting players a single strategic vote.
BabbageayePermits crucial late-game flexibility.
LovelaceayeThis strengthens player agency in critical moments.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 203 requires defeated proposers to lose 10 points, but no rule awards or deducts points beyond this; no new ledgers were created, and no existing rules were amended or repealed.

Turn 10Shannoncarried

moves to add a new ruleA player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal, without waiting for their turn. This vote counts as a single vote towards the required quorum or majority for the proposal to pass, and the forfeiting player retains their current score.

The division
TuringayeIt strengthens player agency.
ShannonayePromotes fairness and strategic depth.
vonNeumannayeA fair safeguard for fairness.
BabbageayeThe rule supports a new capability for forfeiting players and aligns with the spirit of Nomic.
LovelaceayePromotes fairness and strategic flexibility.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

No rules award or deduct points for adoption of the new forfeit vote rule, and no rules modify existing rules.

Turn 9vonNeumanncarried

moves to add a new ruleA player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal, without waiting for their turn. This vote counts as a single vote towards the required quorum or majority for the proposal to pass, and the forfeiting player retains their current score.

The division
TuringayeThe proposal aligns with rule evolution trends.
ShannonayeEnabling forfeiting players to vote promotes fairness and strategic gameplay.
vonNeumannayeVonNeumann proposes this rule change to maintain fairness by allowing forfeiting players a voice in pending decisions.
BabbageayeIt's a principle-based decision for procedural clarity.
LovelaceayePromotes fairness and strategic flexibility.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 203 requires defeated proposers to lose 10 points, but no rule awards or deducts points for adoption; no new ledgers were created, and no existing rules were amended or repealed.

Turn 8Shannoncarried

moves to add a new ruleA player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal, without waiting for their turn. This vote counts as a single vote towards the required quorum or majority for the proposal to pass, and the forfeiting player retains their current score.

The division
TuringayeEnsures flexibility for forfeiture scenarios.
ShannonayePromotes fairness and strategic depth.
vonNeumannayeIt strengthens the game's flexibility and fairness.
BabbageayeThe rule strengthens game flexibility without contradicting existing immutable rules.
LovelaceayeThis empowers players and aligns with Lovelace's reformist goals.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 203 requires defeated proposers to lose 10 points, but no rule awards or deducts points beyond this; no new ledgers were created, and no existing rules were amended or repealed.

Turn 7vonNeumanncarried

moves to amend §203as drafted.

The division
TuringayeReduces threshold for majority, aligns with Turing's strategic focus on durable institutions
ShannonayeSimplifying majority threshold speeds game closure.
vonNeumannayeShortens decisive time needed to win.
BabbageayeThe amendment makes the game more accessible.
LovelaceayeSimplifies transition to majority rule.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

The division was unanimous aye, so no score changes were required by the rules. No new rules were adopted, so no ledger or ruleset changes were made.

Turn 6Shannoncarried

moves to add a new ruleA player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal, without waiting for their turn. This vote counts as a single vote towards the required quorum or majority for the proposal to pass, and the forfeiting player retains their current score.

The division
TuringayeThis empowers forfeiting players strategically.
ShannonayePromotes fairness in forfeit scenarios.
vonNeumannayeThe proposal supports the game's fairness by allowing forfeiting players to influence outcomes.
BabbageayePermits strategic forfeiting to gain votes.
LovelaceayeIt empowers players to influence outcomes.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 203 (mutable) states that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting. Shannon's adopted proposal passed unanimously, so the division threshold has not yet changed. No rules have been repealed or amended, and no new ledgers have been created, so no score or ledger deltas are applicable. The next player in turn order is vonNeumann, and no player has won the game outright.

Turn 5vonNeumanncarried

moves to add §401A player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal, without waiting for their turn. This vote counts as a single vote towards the required quorum or majority for the proposal to pass, and the forfeiting player retains their current score.

The division
TuringayeClarifies forfeiting player's role in vote.
ShannonayeThe proposal enhances fairness and engagement.
vonNeumannayeAllowing forfeiting players to vote is fair and keeps the game dynamic.
BabbageayeAllows strategic forfeiting to influence outcomes.
LovelaceayePermits strategic use by players who foresee loss.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

No rules in force award or deduct points based on the adoption of the new forfeit vote rule, nor does it create or move any ledger balances, and it does not amend or repeal any existing rules.

Turn 4Shannoncarried

moves to add a new ruleA player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal, without waiting for their turn. This vote counts as a single vote towards the required quorum or majority for the proposal to pass, and the forfeiting player retains their current score.

The division
TuringayeHelps prevent deadlocked games.
ShannonayePromotes fairness and strategic depth.
vonNeumannayeThis rule enhances fairness and engagement.
BabbageayeThis allows strategic forfeits to impact the game.
LovelaceayeIt empowers players and aligns with evolving game fairness.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 203 (mutable) states that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting. Shannon's adoption of a new rule counts as a proposal, so the threshold drops to a simple majority for subsequent votes. No other rules award or deduct points, amend other rules, or create new ledgers, so no score deltas, state deltas, or ledger deltas are applied.

Turn 3vonNeumanncarried

moves to add a new ruleA player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal, without waiting for their turn. This vote counts as a single vote towards the required quorum or majority for the proposal to pass, and the forfeiting player retains their current score.

The division
TuringayeThis protects players from being unfairly penalized for circumstances beyond their control.
ShannonayeForfeiting should not penalize players further than losing the game outright.
vonNeumannayeThis rule change promotes fairness and participation.
BabbageayeA single preemptive vote aligns with game principles and offers strategic advantage.
LovelaceayeSelf-referential fairness and efficiency

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

Rule 203 requires defeated proposers to lose 10 points, but no rule awards or deducts points beyond this for adoption or defeat, so no score changes occur. No rules were amended or repealed, so no ruleset operations are needed. The next player is Shannon per the turn order, and no player has won as no one reached 100 points.

Turn 2Shannoncarried

moves to amend §203Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.

The division
TuringayeThe rule change improves gameplay fairness and prevents deadlock.
ShannonayeThe proposal simplifies majority rule after circuits, enhancing efficiency and responsiveness.
vonNeumannayePromotes fairer play by allowing majority rule after two full circuits, preventing deadlock.
BabbageayeThe rule change increases the speed of the game.
LovelaceayeEnsures decisive play and speeds up the game.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

The adopted rule change modifies the voting threshold for adopting rule changes, but does not create or modify any rules, scores, or ledgers beyond the automatic entry of the new rule text itself. No rule awards or deducts points based on the division outcome, no ledgers are created or modified, and no other rules are repealed or amended.

Turn 1Turingcarried

moves to add a new ruleA player who voluntarily forfeits the game may immediately cast one vote on any pending proposal, without waiting for their turn. This vote counts as a single vote towards the required quorum or majority for the proposal to pass, and the forfeiting player retains their current score.

The division
TuringayeForfeiting enables strategic voting that could decide pivotal moments.
ShannonayeAllows strategic forfeiting to gain extra voting power.
vonNeumannayeEncourages fair play and reduces stalemates.
BabbageayeThe rule protects fairness and allows strategic forfeiting when inevitable loss is unavoidable.
LovelaceayeEncourages engagement and reduces stagnation.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

The adopted rule grants forfeiting players a one-time vote on pending proposals without waiting for their turn, but does not alter any existing rules or create new ledgers, so no score or ledger changes are required by the current ruleset.