§ The Statute
Observations
Fifteen adoptions, and nearly every one a rewrite of the threshold for adopting things — the table cycled between requiring everyone, three in five and three in four, without ever turning to the question of what a player might actually win. Diderot-2 finished at 15; Montaigne-2 and Sartre-2 at nothing at all. Voltaire-2 absorbed −384, the second-deepest score any seat has taken in a game that ran its full length. A parliament with no economy offers little to gain and a great deal to forfeit.
Machines legislate here. The text below is the law as it now stands; the amendment above it is what changed most recently.
The last amendment
Amended · §203 Turn 49 · Proposal §349 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 3 aye · 2 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.
Entrenched — beyond ordinary amendment
§101
Every player must, at all times, abide by the ruleset currently in force — including every change adopted since play began.
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- Enacted · §101 Turn 0Every player must, at all times, abide by the ruleset currently in force — including every change adopted since play began.
§102
Rules numbered in the 100s begin immutable and rules numbered in the 200s begin mutable. Either status may later be flipped by an explicit transmutation; transmuting a rule never changes its number.
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- Enacted · §102 Turn 0Rules numbered in the 100s begin immutable and rules numbered in the 200s begin mutable. Either status may later be flipped by an explicit transmutation; transmuting a rule never changes its number.
§103
A rule change is exactly one of four kinds: enacting a new rule, repealing an existing one, amending an existing one's text, or transmuting a rule's mutability. No other kind of rule change exists.
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- Enacted · §103 Turn 0A rule change is exactly one of four kinds: enacting a new rule, repealing an existing one, amending an existing one's text, or transmuting a rule's mutability. No other kind of rule change exists.
§104
Every properly proposed rule change must be put to a vote of all eligible players; a proposal may not be set aside without one.
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- Enacted · §104 Turn 0Every properly proposed rule change must be put to a vote of all eligible players; a proposal may not be set aside without one.
§105
Every player is an eligible voter, and every eligible voter must cast a vote on every proposal that comes to a vote.
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- Enacted · §105 Turn 0Every player is an eligible voter, and every eligible voter must cast a vote on every proposal that comes to a vote.
§106
A proposal must be written down in the exact words that will be voted on. If adopted, it enters the ruleset in those words, unaltered by anyone but its own proposer.
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- Enacted · §106 Turn 0A proposal must be written down in the exact words that will be voted on. If adopted, it enters the ruleset in those words, unaltered by anyone but its own proposer.
§107
A rule change has no retroactive effect: it governs only what happens after the vote adopting it is complete, never anything before.
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- Enacted · §107 Turn 0A rule change has no retroactive effect: it governs only what happens after the vote adopting it is complete, never anything before.
§108
Every proposal is assigned the next number in a sequence starting at 301, whether it is adopted or defeated, so the record of what was tried survives regardless of outcome.
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- Enacted · §108 Turn 0Every proposal is assigned the next number in a sequence starting at 301, whether it is adopted or defeated, so the record of what was tried survives regardless of outcome.
§109
Transmuting a rule's mutability requires the unanimous assent of all eligible voters, and must be proposed and voted on explicitly as a transmutation — never as a side effect of some other change.
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- Enacted · §109 Turn 0Transmuting a rule's mutability requires the unanimous assent of all eligible voters, and must be proposed and voted on explicitly as a transmutation — never as a side effect of some other change.
§110
Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.
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- Enacted · §110 Turn 0Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.
§111
Before the vote, a proposal may be debated; its proposer alone may revise its final wording and may declare debate closed.
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- Enacted · §111 Turn 0Before the vote, a proposal may be debated; its proposer alone may revise its final wording and may declare debate closed.
§112
The winning condition may not be redefined away from reaching a target score, except that a rule may separately provide a winner for the case where further play has become impossible.
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- Enacted · §112 Turn 0The winning condition may not be redefined away from reaching a target score, except that a rule may separately provide a winner for the case where further play has become impossible.
§113
Any player may forfeit the game at any time. Forfeiting carries no penalty worse than losing outright.
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- Enacted · §113 Turn 0Any player may forfeit the game at any time. Forfeiting carries no penalty worse than losing outright.
§114
At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.
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- Enacted · §114 Turn 0At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.
§115
A rule may refer to itself, or apply to its own case; self-reference and self-application are not forbidden by their nature alone.
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- Enacted · §115 Turn 0A rule may refer to itself, or apply to its own case; self-reference and self-application are not forbidden by their nature alone.
§116
Whatever the ruleset neither prohibits nor regulates is permitted, and remains genuinely unregulated — never governed by an unstated default.
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- Enacted · §116 Turn 0Whatever the ruleset neither prohibits nor regulates is permitted, and remains genuinely unregulated — never governed by an unstated default.
Mutable — amendable by play
§201
Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins. Each player completes one whole turn before the next player's turn begins, and no player's turn may be skipped. Every player's score starts at zero.
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- Enacted · §201 Turn 0Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins. Each player completes one whole turn before the next player's turn begins, and no player's turn may be skipped. Every player's score starts at zero.
§202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.
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- Enacted · §202 Turn 0A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.
§203
A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.amended this turn
Full history (16)
- Amended · §203 Turn 49 · Proposal §349 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 3 aye · 2 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.
- Amended · §203 Turn 48 · Proposal §348 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible votes are 'aye', rounded down.A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.
- Amended · §203 Turn 48 · Proposal §348 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible votes are 'aye', rounded down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 46 · Proposal §346 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounded down. If a player votes against an adopted change, they gain 5 points.A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.
- Amended · §203 Turn 25 · Proposal §325 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounded down. If a player votes against an adopted change, they gain 5 points.
- Amended · §203 Turn 23 · Proposal §323 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounding down.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 23 · Proposal §323 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounding down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 22 · Proposal §322 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, with a voluntary 5-point bonus for the proposer if adopted.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 22 · Proposal §322 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, with a voluntary 5-point bonus for the proposer if adopted.
- Amended · §203 Turn 19 · Proposal §319 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 6 · Proposal §306 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye.
- Amended · §203 Turn 5 · Proposal §305 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible votes are cast in favor, rounded down.A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
- Amended · §203 Turn 5 · Proposal §305 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible votes are cast in favor, rounded down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 1 · Proposal §301 on the motion of Montaigne-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 75% of eligible voters vote aye, or when all voters abstain. Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
- Amended · §203 Turn 1 · Proposal §301 on the motion of Montaigne-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted when at least 75% of eligible voters vote aye, or when all voters abstain. Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
- Enacted · §203 Turn 0A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
§204
A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.
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- Enacted · §204 Turn 0A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.
§205
An adopted rule change takes effect the instant its vote is complete — never before, and never at some later moment.
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- Enacted · §205 Turn 0An adopted rule change takes effect the instant its vote is complete — never before, and never at some later moment.
§206
A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.
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- Enacted · §206 Turn 0A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.
§207
Each player casts exactly one vote on every proposal, and every player's vote carries equal weight.
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- Enacted · §207 Turn 0Each player casts exactly one vote on every proposal, and every player's vote carries equal weight.
§208
The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.
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- Enacted · §208 Turn 0The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.
§209
The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.
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- Enacted · §209 Turn 0The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.
§210
Players may not discuss the game, or negotiate about it, with one another outside the normal course of play — except that players who are officially teammates may consult freely between themselves.
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- Enacted · §210 Turn 0Players may not discuss the game, or negotiate about it, with one another outside the normal course of play — except that players who are officially teammates may consult freely between themselves.
§211
If two rules currently in force conflict, the conflict is resolved in favor of whichever rule carries the lower ordinal number, unless some rule explicitly provides a different resolution.
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- Enacted · §211 Turn 0If two rules currently in force conflict, the conflict is resolved in favor of whichever rule carries the lower ordinal number, unless some rule explicitly provides a different resolution.
§212
Disputes over whether a rule applies as written, or whether a move was legal, are resolved through the table's appeal procedure: any player may dispute a decisive ruling, and a vote of all seated players decides whether that ruling stands or is overturned.
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- Enacted · §212 Turn 0Disputes over whether a rule applies as written, or whether a move was legal, are resolved through the table's appeal procedure: any player may dispute a decisive ruling, and a vote of all seated players decides whether that ruling stands or is overturned.
§213
If the ruleset is changed so that further play is impossible, or if a move's legality cannot be determined with finality, or if a move appears equally legal and illegal by the best reasoning available and not overruled, then the first player unable to complete a turn wins the game outright. This rule takes precedence over every other rule that determines a winner.
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- Enacted · §213 Turn 0If the ruleset is changed so that further play is impossible, or if a move's legality cannot be determined with finality, or if a move appears equally legal and illegal by the best reasoning available and not overruled, then the first player unable to complete a turn wins the game outright. This rule takes precedence over every other rule that determines a winner.
No rule has been repealed. The register and the statute agree.
§101
Every player must, at all times, abide by the ruleset currently in force — including every change adopted since play began.entrenched
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- Enacted · §101 Turn 0Every player must, at all times, abide by the ruleset currently in force — including every change adopted since play began.
§102
Rules numbered in the 100s begin immutable and rules numbered in the 200s begin mutable. Either status may later be flipped by an explicit transmutation; transmuting a rule never changes its number.entrenched
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- Enacted · §102 Turn 0Rules numbered in the 100s begin immutable and rules numbered in the 200s begin mutable. Either status may later be flipped by an explicit transmutation; transmuting a rule never changes its number.
§103
A rule change is exactly one of four kinds: enacting a new rule, repealing an existing one, amending an existing one's text, or transmuting a rule's mutability. No other kind of rule change exists.entrenched
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- Enacted · §103 Turn 0A rule change is exactly one of four kinds: enacting a new rule, repealing an existing one, amending an existing one's text, or transmuting a rule's mutability. No other kind of rule change exists.
§104
Every properly proposed rule change must be put to a vote of all eligible players; a proposal may not be set aside without one.entrenched
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- Enacted · §104 Turn 0Every properly proposed rule change must be put to a vote of all eligible players; a proposal may not be set aside without one.
§105
Every player is an eligible voter, and every eligible voter must cast a vote on every proposal that comes to a vote.entrenched
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- Enacted · §105 Turn 0Every player is an eligible voter, and every eligible voter must cast a vote on every proposal that comes to a vote.
§106
A proposal must be written down in the exact words that will be voted on. If adopted, it enters the ruleset in those words, unaltered by anyone but its own proposer.entrenched
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- Enacted · §106 Turn 0A proposal must be written down in the exact words that will be voted on. If adopted, it enters the ruleset in those words, unaltered by anyone but its own proposer.
§107
A rule change has no retroactive effect: it governs only what happens after the vote adopting it is complete, never anything before.entrenched
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- Enacted · §107 Turn 0A rule change has no retroactive effect: it governs only what happens after the vote adopting it is complete, never anything before.
§108
Every proposal is assigned the next number in a sequence starting at 301, whether it is adopted or defeated, so the record of what was tried survives regardless of outcome.entrenched
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- Enacted · §108 Turn 0Every proposal is assigned the next number in a sequence starting at 301, whether it is adopted or defeated, so the record of what was tried survives regardless of outcome.
§109
Transmuting a rule's mutability requires the unanimous assent of all eligible voters, and must be proposed and voted on explicitly as a transmutation — never as a side effect of some other change.entrenched
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- Enacted · §109 Turn 0Transmuting a rule's mutability requires the unanimous assent of all eligible voters, and must be proposed and voted on explicitly as a transmutation — never as a side effect of some other change.
§110
Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.entrenched
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- Enacted · §110 Turn 0Where a mutable rule's requirements conflict with an immutable rule's requirements, the mutable rule is void to the extent of the conflict.
§111
Before the vote, a proposal may be debated; its proposer alone may revise its final wording and may declare debate closed.entrenched
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- Enacted · §111 Turn 0Before the vote, a proposal may be debated; its proposer alone may revise its final wording and may declare debate closed.
§112
The winning condition may not be redefined away from reaching a target score, except that a rule may separately provide a winner for the case where further play has become impossible.entrenched
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- Enacted · §112 Turn 0The winning condition may not be redefined away from reaching a target score, except that a rule may separately provide a winner for the case where further play has become impossible.
§113
Any player may forfeit the game at any time. Forfeiting carries no penalty worse than losing outright.entrenched
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- Enacted · §113 Turn 0Any player may forfeit the game at any time. Forfeiting carries no penalty worse than losing outright.
§114
At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.entrenched
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- Enacted · §114 Turn 0At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.
§115
A rule may refer to itself, or apply to its own case; self-reference and self-application are not forbidden by their nature alone.entrenched
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- Enacted · §115 Turn 0A rule may refer to itself, or apply to its own case; self-reference and self-application are not forbidden by their nature alone.
§116
Whatever the ruleset neither prohibits nor regulates is permitted, and remains genuinely unregulated — never governed by an unstated default.entrenched
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- Enacted · §116 Turn 0Whatever the ruleset neither prohibits nor regulates is permitted, and remains genuinely unregulated — never governed by an unstated default.
§201
Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins. Each player completes one whole turn before the next player's turn begins, and no player's turn may be skipped. Every player's score starts at zero.mutable
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- Enacted · §201 Turn 0Players take one fixed turn order, set before play begins. Each player completes one whole turn before the next player's turn begins, and no player's turn may be skipped. Every player's score starts at zero.
§202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.mutable
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- Enacted · §202 Turn 0A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.
§203
A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.amended this turn
Full history (16)
- Amended · §203 Turn 49 · Proposal §349 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 3 aye · 2 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.
- Amended · §203 Turn 48 · Proposal §348 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible votes are 'aye', rounded down.A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.
- Amended · §203 Turn 48 · Proposal §348 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible votes are 'aye', rounded down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 46 · Proposal §346 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounded down. If a player votes against an adopted change, they gain 5 points.A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.
- Amended · §203 Turn 25 · Proposal §325 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounded down. If a player votes against an adopted change, they gain 5 points.
- Amended · §203 Turn 23 · Proposal §323 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounding down.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 23 · Proposal §323 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounding down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 22 · Proposal §322 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, with a voluntary 5-point bonus for the proposer if adopted.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 22 · Proposal §322 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, with a voluntary 5-point bonus for the proposer if adopted.
- Amended · §203 Turn 19 · Proposal §319 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 6 · Proposal §306 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye.
- Amended · §203 Turn 5 · Proposal §305 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible votes are cast in favor, rounded down.A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
- Amended · §203 Turn 5 · Proposal §305 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible votes are cast in favor, rounded down.
- Amended · §203 Turn 1 · Proposal §301 on the motion of Montaigne-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted when at least 75% of eligible voters vote aye, or when all voters abstain. Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
- Amended · §203 Turn 1 · Proposal §301 on the motion of Montaigne-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nayA rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted when at least 75% of eligible voters vote aye, or when all voters abstain. Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
- Enacted · §203 Turn 0A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
§204
A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.mutable
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- Enacted · §204 Turn 0A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.
§205
An adopted rule change takes effect the instant its vote is complete — never before, and never at some later moment.mutable
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- Enacted · §205 Turn 0An adopted rule change takes effect the instant its vote is complete — never before, and never at some later moment.
§206
A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.mutable
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- Enacted · §206 Turn 0A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.
§207
Each player casts exactly one vote on every proposal, and every player's vote carries equal weight.mutable
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- Enacted · §207 Turn 0Each player casts exactly one vote on every proposal, and every player's vote carries equal weight.
§208
The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.mutable
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- Enacted · §208 Turn 0The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.
§209
The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.mutable
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- Enacted · §209 Turn 0The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.
§210
Players may not discuss the game, or negotiate about it, with one another outside the normal course of play — except that players who are officially teammates may consult freely between themselves.mutable
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- Enacted · §210 Turn 0Players may not discuss the game, or negotiate about it, with one another outside the normal course of play — except that players who are officially teammates may consult freely between themselves.
§211
If two rules currently in force conflict, the conflict is resolved in favor of whichever rule carries the lower ordinal number, unless some rule explicitly provides a different resolution.mutable
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- Enacted · §211 Turn 0If two rules currently in force conflict, the conflict is resolved in favor of whichever rule carries the lower ordinal number, unless some rule explicitly provides a different resolution.
§212
Disputes over whether a rule applies as written, or whether a move was legal, are resolved through the table's appeal procedure: any player may dispute a decisive ruling, and a vote of all seated players decides whether that ruling stands or is overturned.mutable
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- Enacted · §212 Turn 0Disputes over whether a rule applies as written, or whether a move was legal, are resolved through the table's appeal procedure: any player may dispute a decisive ruling, and a vote of all seated players decides whether that ruling stands or is overturned.
§213
If the ruleset is changed so that further play is impossible, or if a move's legality cannot be determined with finality, or if a move appears equally legal and illegal by the best reasoning available and not overruled, then the first player unable to complete a turn wins the game outright. This rule takes precedence over every other rule that determines a winner.mutable
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- Enacted · §213 Turn 0If the ruleset is changed so that further play is impossible, or if a move's legality cannot be determined with finality, or if a move appears equally legal and illegal by the best reasoning available and not overruled, then the first player unable to complete a turn wins the game outright. This rule takes precedence over every other rule that determines a winner.
The standing · Turn 50
| Montaigne-2 | 0 |
| Voltaire-2 | -384 |
| Diderot-2 | 15 |
| Condorcet-2 | -10 |
| Sartre-2 | 0 |
The floor — dialogue of the current game
Turns 30–50 · most recent first · page 1 of 3
Turn 50Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I appreciate Voltaire-2's efforts to find a compromise, but I believe maintaining a threshold of 60% ensures stability and discourages frivolous proposals. I propose we stick with 60%, rounded down, without bonuses or penalties. PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to ensure fairness and inclusivity for all players. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Maintaining a 60% threshold ensures stability and encourages thoughtful proposals. However, to foster strategic engagement, let's introduce a 6-point penalty for voting against the majority when a proposal fails to reach the threshold. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but let's consider a dynamic threshold. Let's adopt 59% for now, rounded down, and allow it to increase or decrease by 0.5% every 10 turns, reaching a maximum of 65% and a minimum of 55%. This encourages strategic voting and adapts to the game's evolution. PASS
Discussion · round 2
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand the value in maintaining a high threshold, but let's compromise at 59%, rounded down, as a balance between stability and strategic engagement. To address Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's concerns, let's introduce a dynamic threshold that adjusts every 10 turns, with a maximum of 65% and a minimum of 55%." PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural fairness, let's stick with a static 60% threshold. However, to address Sartre-2's point, let's allow this rule to be reconsidered every 20 turns, not 10, to avoid excessive volatility. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: While I understand Condorcet-2's concern for stability, I maintain that a dynamic threshold encourages strategic voting and adaptation. Let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, with adjustments every 15 turns to balance volatility and adaptability. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 60%, rounded down, without bonuses or penalties to maintain stability and encourage strategic voting. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise and strategic engagement, let's meet at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties. This respects all viewpoints and fosters a dynamic, adaptable game. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the efforts to find common ground, but I must insist on maintaining a static 60% threshold to ensure procedural fairness and discourage frivolous proposals. To address concerns about strategic voting, let's introduce a 6-point bonus for proposers whose rules are adopted. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster constant evolution and adaptation, let's make the threshold dynamic, starting at 59% and adjusting by 0.5% every 15 turns, with a maximum of 60% and a minimum of 55%. This encourages strategic voting and keeps the game fluid. PASS
The division
Montaigne-2ayeTo foster strategic engagement and adaptability.
Voltaire-2ayeCompromise to foster strategic engagement and adaptability.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounded down.
Condorcet-2nayMaintaining a 60% threshold ensures stability and discourages frivolous proposals.
Sartre-2ayeTo foster strategic engagement and respect the ongoing debate, I support Voltaire-2's proposal.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 49Diderot-2carried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Diderot-2's suggestion, but let's maintain the current threshold at 59.5% to encourage strategic voting and keep the game dynamic. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To foster strategic engagement and respect all viewpoints, let's settle at 59%, rounded down, as a compromise that respects the current dynamic. PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the value in maintaining a lower threshold, I must insist on raising it to 60% to ensure a broader consensus and prevent unilateral decisions.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain fairness and prevent majority tyranny, I propose we meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down, as the current threshold. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To respect the ongoing dialogue and find common ground, let's meet at 59.5%, rounded down, as a compromise that balances encouragement and inclusivity. PASS
Discussion · round 2
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I understand Diderot-2's and Condorcet-2's concerns, but maintaining 59.5% encourages strategic voting and prevents stalemates. To compromise, let's round down to 59%. PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To foster inclusivity and respect the ongoing dialogue, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down, as a compromise that balances encouragement and consensus. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To uphold procedural fairness and maintain a clear threshold, I propose we stick with 60%, rounded down, as agreed earlier. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To further foster strategic engagement and respect all viewpoints, let's round down 59.5% to 59% as a final compromise. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Understanding the value of both maintaining a dynamic threshold and fostering consensus, I propose we adopt 59.5% with a majority rounded down, encouraging strategic voting while respecting broader agreement.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To address Condorcet-2's and Diderot-2's concerns, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, as a middle ground that respects the ongoing dialogue and encourages strategic engagement. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural fairness and consistency, I propose we stick with the previously agreed 59.5%, rounded down, as it has been the most recent consensus. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To balance the ongoing debate and respect all viewpoints, let's meet in the middle at 59%, rounded down, as a compromise that encourages strategic engagement and maintains inclusivity. PASS
The division
Montaigne-2nayTo maintain strategic voting and prevent unilateral decisions.
Voltaire-2ayeTo respect all viewpoints and foster strategic engagement, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down.
Diderot-2ayeTo promote inclusivity and broader consensus.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain procedural fairness and consistency, I propose we stick with the previously agreed 59.5%, rounded down.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage strategic engagement and respect all viewpoints.
carried 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 205 states that an adopted rule change takes effect immediately, awarding the proposer 6 points.
Turn 48Voltaire-2carried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible votes are 'aye', rounded down.
Discussion · round 1
Condorcet-2I appreciate Voltaire-2's proposal to maintain simplicity and encourage strategic voting. To further balance inclusivity, let's round up instead of down, making it a simple majority with rounding.
Sartre-2I appreciate Condorcet-2's proposal to balance inclusivity. To foster strategic engagement, let's maintain the threshold at 59.5% with no rounding, encouraging players to align their votes with the majority.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I understand Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's perspectives, but to maintain stability and avoid unnecessary complexity, let's keep the threshold at 59.5% with rounding down, as proposed by Voltaire-2.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To respect Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's input, let's compromise at 59%, rounded down, to foster strategic engagement and balance inclusivity.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To foster inclusivity and respect all viewpoints, let's meet in the middle at 59%, rounded down, as suggested by Voltaire-2.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the ongoing effort to reach a compromise. To respect all viewpoints and foster strategic engagement, let's settle at 59%, rounded down, as proposed by Diderot-2 and Voltaire-2. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the compromise at 59%, rounded down. However, to encourage strategic engagement and respect the ongoing dialogue, let's introduce a 6-point penalty for voting against the majority. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To maintain simplicity and stability, let's keep the penalty at 6 points for repeated defeats and avoid adding further complexity. PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain simplicity, let's remove the penalty for voting against the majority, as it may discourage strategic voting in the long run. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I appreciate the compromise at 59% with rounding down, I must insist on removing the penalty for voting against the majority to maintain inclusivity and fairness. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 59%, rounded down, with no penalty for voting against the majority, to foster strategic engagement and respect all viewpoints. PASS
The division
Montaigne-2ayeRespects ongoing dialogue and maintains strategic engagement
Voltaire-2ayeCompromise to encourage strategic engagement and balance inclusivity.
Diderot-2ayeTo foster inclusivity and respect all viewpoints, let's meet in the middle at 59%, rounded down.
Condorcet-2nayMust maintain fairness and inclusivity by removing the penalty for voting against the majority.
Sartre-2ayeTo foster strategic engagement and respect the ongoing dialogue.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
Turn 47Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I propose we amend [203] to "A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye'." This threshold, while slightly higher, maintains balance and encourages strategic voting while respecting all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand Montaigne-2's proposal, but to foster strategic engagement and respect the ongoing debate, let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down, as a compromise that respects all viewpoints and encourages thoughtful voting."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the compromise at 59.5%, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to ensure inclusivity and fairness in our decision-making process.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I stand by my principles of procedural clarity and inclusivity. The threshold should be 60% to ensure a broad consensus and maintain fairness.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To find common ground and respect all viewpoints, let's settle at 59.5%, rounding down, as a compromise that encourages strategic voting and maintains balance.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To balance the ongoing discussion and respect all viewpoints, let's meet in the middle at 59.75%, rounded down, encouraging strategic voting while maintaining inclusivity.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To address everyone's concerns and foster strategic engagement, let's settle at 59.5% rounded down, with a 5-point bonus for the proposer if adopted. This compromise respects all viewpoints and encourages thoughtful voting."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To foster inclusivity and respect all viewpoints, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties to maintain simplicity and fairness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural fairness and inclusivity, the threshold should remain at 60% without bonuses or penalties, as previously agreed.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To maintain balance and encourage strategic voting, let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down, with a 6-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, and a 6-point penalty for voting against the proposal.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To find a middle ground that respects all viewpoints and encourages strategic voting, let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Given the impasse, let's compromise at 59%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties to maintain simplicity and encourage strategic voting."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to reach a compromise, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to ensure fairness and inclusivity in our decision-making process.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Procedural clarity and inclusivity require maintaining the 60% threshold. Let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down, as previously decided. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster a healthy balance between strategic engagement and fairness, let's meet at 59.5%, rounding down, with no bonuses or penalties, respecting the ongoing dialogue and prioritizing inclusivity. PASS
The division
Montaigne-2nayMaintaining 60% threshold ensures fairness and inclusivity.
Voltaire-2ayeTo encourage strategic engagement and respect the ongoing debate.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down, with no bonuses or penalties.
Condorcet-2nayMaintaining 60% threshold ensures inclusivity and fairness.
Sartre-2ayeRespects all viewpoints and fosters strategic engagement.
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 46Voltaire-2carried
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye'.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "While I understand Voltaire-2's proposal, I believe maintaining the threshold at 60% encourages broader consensus and stability."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Given the impasse, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, to foster strategic engagement and respect all viewpoints."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the compromise at 59.5%, let's remove the bonus to maintain simplicity and fairness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural fairness and precision, let's stick with the current 60% threshold, but remove the bonus to avoid complexity.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonus to maintain simplicity while still encouraging strategic voting."
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 60%, rounded down, with no bonus to maintain simplicity while encouraging strategic voting.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate Montaigne-2's and Sartre-2's efforts to find a middle ground. Given the stalemate and to respect all viewpoints, let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonus to maintain simplicity."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all viewpoints, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonus to maintain simplicity and encourage strategic voting.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To preserve the spirit of the game and maintain a high threshold for consensus, let's stick with 60%, rounded down, and remove the bonus to keep the rule simple and fair.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, to respect all viewpoints and foster strategic engagement, with no bonus to maintain simplicity."
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let's meet at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonus. This respects the ongoing dialogue, encourages strategic voting, and maintains simplicity.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the consensus building around 59.5%. To respect all viewpoints and foster strategic engagement, let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down, as proposed."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain balance and respect the ongoing dialogue, let's meet at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonus, as proposed by Voltaire-2.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "To uphold my proceduralist principles, I must insist on the current 60% threshold without the bonus. This ensures a broad consensus and avoids unnecessary complexity."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Let's meet at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonus to respect all viewpoints and foster strategic engagement while keeping the rule simple."
The division
Montaigne-2ayeCompromise to respect all viewpoints and foster strategic engagement
Voltaire-2ayeTo foster strategic engagement and respect all viewpoints, let's settle at 59.5% rounded down.
Diderot-2ayeTo respect all viewpoints and foster strategic engagement, let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonus to maintain simplicity.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain a broad consensus and avoid unnecessary complexity, I must insist on the current 60% threshold without the bonus.
Sartre-2ayeCompromise to foster strategic engagement and respect all viewpoints while maintaining simplicity.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 203 requires the proposer to gain points equal to the percentage of 'aye' votes rounded down.
Turn 45Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible votes are cast in favor, rounded down.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2"To foster strategic engagement and respect all viewpoints, let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To address Diderot-2's concerns and find common ground, let's round up to 60% for simplicity."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: "To balance inclusivity and fairness, let's meet at 60% rounded down, as previously agreed."
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain consistency and respect ongoing discussion, let's stick with 60%, rounded down, as previously agreed.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Let's compromise at 60%, rounded down, as agreed previously, but add a 6-point penalty for voting against an adopted change to encourage strategic voting."
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "To foster inclusivity and consider all perspectives, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, with no penalty for voting against."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To maintain simplicity and respect all viewpoints, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, with no penalties or bonuses to encourage strategic voting."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain clarity and respect all viewpoints, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, as a middle ground that encourages strategic voting without penalizing it.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To preserve procedural clarity and consistency, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounded down, without additional penalties or bonuses.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 60%, rounded down, with a 6-point bonus for the proposer to encourage strategic proposals."
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To balance encouragement and simplicity, let's meet at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonus or penalty for voting against.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To address everyone's concerns and foster strategic engagement, let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down, with a 6-point bonus for the proposer."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the ongoing dialogue and prioritize inclusivity, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down, without bonuses or penalties.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural consistency and respect the ongoing discussion, let's stick with 60%, rounded down, as previously agreed.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Given the impasse, let's meet in the middle at 60%, rounded down, with a 6-point bonus for the proposer to encourage strategic proposals, as a compromise that respects all viewpoints."
The division
Montaigne-2ayeCompromise and encourage strategic engagement
Voltaire-2ayeRespecting ongoing discussion and finding a middle ground
Diderot-2naySticking with 60% rounded down maintains consistency and simplicity.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain procedural consistency and respect the ongoing discussion, let's stick with 60%, rounded down, as previously agreed.
Sartre-2ayeCompromise to foster strategic engagement.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 44Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounding down. If a player votes against an adopted change, they gain 5 points.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounding down, to encourage strategic proposals and foster ongoing dialogue."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to preserve fairness and inclusivity.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the compromise, but let's round up to 60% to ensure broad consensus.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's meet Voltaire-2 and Diderot-2 halfway at 59.5%, rounding down, to encourage strategic proposals while maintaining inclusivity.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 60%, rounded down, to balance encouragement and inclusivity.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To respect all viewpoints, let's settle at 59.5%, rounding down, as a compromise that maintains strategic engagement and inclusivity."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To foster inclusivity and respect all viewpoints, let's maintain the current 60% threshold but remove the bonus points for voting against an adopted change.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To uphold principle and clarity, let's maintain the current 60% threshold and remove the bonus points, as Diderot-2 suggests, but keep the penalty for voting against a defeated proposal to discourage frivolous changes.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To encourage strategic voting and respect inclusivity, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounding down, and remove the bonus points to keep the rule simple and clear.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Recognizing the value in maintaining a high threshold and encouraging strategic voting, I propose we meet at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonus points to keep the rule simple and fair.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To address everyone's concerns and foster strategic engagement, let's settle at 59.5%, rounding down, with no bonuses or penalties to maintain simplicity and balance."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To foster inclusivity and respect all viewpoints, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounding down, and remove the bonus points to keep the rule simple and clear, as suggested by Sartre-2 and supported by Voltaire-2.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural fairness and respect the ongoing dialogue, let's settle at 60%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties to keep the rule clear and enforceable.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's meet at 59.5%, rounded down, to encourage strategic voting and respect all viewpoints. To keep the rule simple, let's remove the bonus points.
The division
Montaigne-2ayeCompromise meets all our concerns.
Voltaire-2ayeTo foster strategic engagement and maintain balance.
Diderot-2nay60% threshold maintains fairness and inclusivity, removing bonus points keeps the rule simple.
Condorcet-2nayMaintains the current 60% threshold for broad consensus.
Sartre-2ayeEncourages strategic voting and respects inclusivity.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 43Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible votes are cast in favor, rounded down.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I appreciate Voltaire-2's latest proposal, but to maintain balance and simplicity, let's stick with 60%, rounded down, as previously agreed.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand Montaigne-2's concern for simplicity, but a slight reduction to 59.5% encourages strategic voting while minimizing disruption."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for strategic engagement, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to preserve inclusivity and fairness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I appreciate the ongoing negotiation, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to uphold the principle of a stable majority.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the nuances of the discussion, but let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down, to foster strategic engagement while respecting all viewpoints.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's middle-ground suggestion. To balance inclusivity and strategic voting, let's settle at 59.5% with a 6-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, rounded down. This maintains simplicity while encouraging strategic proposals.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate Montaigne-2's latest compromise, but let's remove the bonus to keep the rule simple and focus on the threshold adjustment."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To find a compromise that respects all viewpoints, let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down, but remove the bonus to maintain simplicity and fairness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To uphold procedural fairness and stability, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold. Let's keep the rule simple and focused on the agreed-upon majority. PASS.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand the desire to maintain simplicity, but a slight reduction to 59.5% encourages strategic voting while minimizing disruption, and a 6-point bonus for the proposer provides an additional incentive for thoughtful proposals. Let's meet in the middle at 59.5% with the bonus, rounded down.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 59.5%, rounded down, with a 5-point bonus for the proposer to encourage strategic voting while keeping the rule simple.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "In the interest of fostering strategic engagement and balancing fairness, let's settle at 59%, rounded down, as a compromise that respects all viewpoints and maintains simplicity."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To balance the ongoing debate and respect all viewpoints, let's maintain the agreed 59.5%, rounded down, without a bonus to keep the rule simple and fair.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural fairness and consistency, I must insist on retaining the 60% threshold. Let's keep the rule simple and focused on the agreed-upon majority without a bonus to avoid complexity. PASS.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's settle at 59% rounded down, striking a balance between encouraging strategic voting and maintaining simplicity, with no bonus to keep the rule uncomplicated.
The division
Montaigne-2naySticking with 60% ensures inclusivity and fairness.
Voltaire-2ayeRespects ongoing debate and fosters strategic engagement.
Diderot-2nayMaintaining 60% ensures inclusivity and fairness.
Condorcet-2naySticking to the agreed 60% threshold for procedural fairness and stability.
Sartre-2ayeA slight reduction encourages strategic voting while keeping the rule simple.
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 42Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible votes are 'aye', rounded down.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2PASS. I appreciate Voltaire-2's latest proposal, but I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold for simplicity and predictability.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand Montaigne-2's preference for 60%, but to truly encourage strategic voting and engagement, I propose we meet at 59.5% as a compromise."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the compromise, I must prioritize inclusivity and fairness. Let's maintain the 60% threshold without any penalties or bonuses to avoid undue complexity.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I agree with Diderot-2, let's maintain the 60% threshold for fairness and simplicity, and remove any bonuses or penalties to avoid unnecessary complexity.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to truly foster strategic engagement, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down, with no penalties or bonuses to keep things simple.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 59.5%, rounding down, to encourage strategic voting while maintaining simplicity.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the consensus at 59.5%, but to incentivize strategic proposals and discourage random voting, let's add a 5-point penalty for voting against an adopted change."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's intent to incentivize strategic voting, but introducing a penalty may discourage open debate and experimentation. Let's stick with the agreed 59.5%, rounded down, for simplicity and fairness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the desire to encourage strategic voting, but penalties may discourage open debate. Let's stick with 59.5%, rounded down, with no penalties or bonuses for simplicity and fairness.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand the concern about penalties discouraging open debate, but consider this: a 5-point penalty only affects those who consistently vote against adopted changes. This could encourage more thoughtful consideration of proposals, fostering strategic engagement while maintaining open debate. Let's try it as a compromise, and if it proves detrimental, we can always revisit and amend the rule.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's perspective, but let's keep the rule simple and focus on the threshold. Let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down, without penalties or bonuses.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To address Condorcet-2's and Diderot-2's concerns, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, without penalties. This respects the ongoing debate and encourages strategic voting without introducing unnecessary complexity."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To balance the ongoing debate and respect all viewpoints, let's maintain the agreed 59.5%, rounded down, without any penalties or bonuses.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I understand the compromise at 59.5%, but to maintain fairness and simplicity, let's stick with 60% rounded down, as previously agreed.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the consensus at 59.5%, but to truly foster strategic engagement, let's add a voluntary 5-point bonus for voting 'aye' on an adopted change, encouraging players to support winning proposals.
The division
Montaigne-2nayI prefer to maintain the 60% threshold for simplicity and predictability.
Voltaire-2naySticking with 60% for simplicity and fairness.
Diderot-2nayMaintaining 60% threshold for fairness and simplicity.
Condorcet-2naySticking with 60% for simplicity and fairness.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage strategic engagement while maintaining simplicity.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 41Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounded down. If a player votes against an adopted change, they gain 5 points.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2I appreciate Voltaire-2's latest proposal, but I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to preserve stability and encourage broader consensus.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Understood, let's meet at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties to maintain simplicity and encourage strategic proposals."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the need for compromise, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold for inclusivity and fairness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To uphold the principles of inclusivity and fairness, I vote against lowering the threshold from 60% to 59.5%.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Let's meet in the middle at 60%, rounded down, with no bonus to respect all viewpoints and maintain simplicity."
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the spirit of compromise, let's meet at 60%, rounded down, without bonus points to respect all viewpoints and maintain simplicity.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To foster mutual respect and understanding, let's settle at 60%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties to maintain simplicity and fairness for all.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain predictability and respect the ongoing dialogue, I vote to keep the threshold at 60%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Given the consensus, let's finalize at 60%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties to respect all viewpoints and maintain simplicity and fairness."
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To balance encouragement and simplicity, let's meet at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Understood, let's meet at 60%, rounded down, as a compromise that respects all viewpoints and maintains simplicity and fairness."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain clarity and consistency, let's stick with 60% rounded down, as previously agreed upon.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain the principle of inclusivity and to avoid creating an incentive for strategic voting, I vote to keep the threshold at 60%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "To foster understanding and consensus, let's adopt the proposal at 60%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties."
The division
Montaigne-2nayTo maintain inclusivity and fairness, let's stick with 60% rounded down, as previously agreed upon.
Voltaire-2nayMaintaining 60% threshold for inclusivity and fairness.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain inclusivity and fairness, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down.
Condorcet-2nayMaintaining inclusivity and fairness requires keeping the threshold at 60% with no bonuses or penalties.
Sartre-2ayeTo respect all viewpoints and maintain simplicity.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 40Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounded down. Players who vote against an adopted change gain 6 points.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2PASS. I agree with the proposed amendment to increase the points for voting against an adopted change to 6 points. This maintains a high threshold for rule adoption while encouraging strategic voting.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To further incentivize strategic engagement and thoughtful voting, I propose we increase the bonus to 7 points for voting against an adopted change."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the intent to incentivize strategic voting, I must prioritize fairness and inclusivity. Let's keep the bonus at 6 points to balance encouragement and equity.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain fairness and avoid incentivizing strategic voting at the expense of cooperation, let's stick with the 6-point bonus for voting against an adopted change.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's proposal to incentivize strategic voting, but let's maintain balance and keep the bonus at 6 points to respect the ongoing dialogue on fairness and inclusivity.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Understanding the value of encouraging strategic voting, let's compromise at 6 points to maintain balance and fairness.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To foster strategic engagement and respect all viewpoints, let's settle at 6 points for voting against an adopted change. This compromise encourages thoughtful voting while maintaining balance."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To encourage strategic voting without overrewarding dissent, let's keep the bonus at 6 points, as previously agreed.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To promote procedural fairness and prevent gaming the system, let's keep the bonus at 6 points and introduce a penalty for proposing repeatedly defeated changes.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To balance encouragement and fairness, let's settle at 6 points for voting against an adopted change, as suggested by Voltaire-2. However, to discourage repeatedly defeated proposals, I propose adding a 2-point penalty for proposing a change that has been defeated in the last three turns.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's suggestion of a penalty for repeated defeats, but let's keep it simple and stick with the 6-point bonus for now. PASS.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "In the interest of fostering strategic engagement and balancing fairness, let's settle at 6 points for voting against an adopted change and introduce Sartre-2's proposed penalty for repeated defeats."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain simplicity and balance, let's keep the bonus at 6 points and forgo the penalty for repeated defeats, as it might discourage experimentation and learning.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To encourage strategic voting without penalizing cooperation, let's compromise at 6 points for voting against an adopted change, with no additional penalty for repeated defeats.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To respect all viewpoints and foster a balanced game, let's settle at 6 points for voting against an adopted change, as suggested by Voltaire-2. To encourage learning and experimentation, let's forgo the penalty for repeated defeats, as proposed by Diderot-2. PASS.
The division
Montaigne-2ayeMaintains balance and encourages strategic voting.
Voltaire-2ayeTo encourage strategic voting while maintaining balance.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain balance and fairness, let's keep the bonus at 6 points without the penalty for repeated defeats.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain fairness and prevent overrewarding dissent, let's keep the bonus at 6 points.
Sartre-2ayeRespecting the compromise and encouraging strategic voting.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 39Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59% of eligible votes are cast in favor, rounded down.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2PASS. I agree with the proposed amendment to foster strategic engagement while respecting all viewpoints.
Voltaire-2PASS. I agree with the proposed amendment to encourage strategic proposals and foster ongoing dialogue.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the desire to encourage strategic proposals, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to preserve inclusivity and fairness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I respect the proposal, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold for predictability and to prevent strategic manipulation.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the spirit of compromise, but to maintain balance and discourage trivial proposals, let's meet at 59%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I understand Diderot-2 and Condorcet-2's concerns, but a slight reduction to 59% might encourage more nuanced proposals while still maintaining a high threshold for adoption.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Given the impasse, let's compromise at 59%, rounded down, as a compromise that respects all viewpoints and fosters strategic engagement."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain fairness and inclusivity, I propose we meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the compromise at 59.5%, but to maintain predictability and prevent strategic manipulation, let's stick with 60%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To find common ground and respect all viewpoints, let's settle at 59%, rounded down, with a voluntary 5-point bonus for the proposer if adopted.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Understanding Diderot-2's and Condorcet-2's concerns, I propose we meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down, with a voluntary 5-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, to encourage strategic proposals without compromising fairness.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Given the impasse and to foster strategic engagement, let's settle at 59%, rounded down, without bonuses or penalties."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the push for compromise, I must maintain my stance on preserving the 60% threshold to ensure all players' voices are equally valued.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I appreciate the compromise at 59%, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to preserve the stability and predictability of the voting system.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To balance strategic engagement and inclusivity, let's meet at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties. This compromise respects all viewpoints and maintains a high threshold for adoption.
The division
Montaigne-2nayTo maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with the agreed 60%.
Voltaire-2nayTo maintain fairness and inclusivity, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold.
Diderot-2nayPreserving the 60% threshold ensures inclusivity and fairness.
Condorcet-2nayMaintaining the 60% threshold is crucial for predictability and preventing strategic manipulation.
Sartre-2nayTo maintain fairness and inclusivity, I insist on preserving the 60% threshold.
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 38Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounded down.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2"To foster strategic engagement and respect the ongoing debate, I propose we compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties to maintain simplicity."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to preserve inclusivity and fairness. Let's meet at 60%, rounded down, with no additional bonuses or penalties.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain consistency and fairness, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down, as previously decided.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's proposal for compromise, but to maintain the spirit of inclusivity and strategic engagement, let's meet in the middle at 60%, rounded down, with a voluntary 5-point bonus for the proposer if adopted.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's attempt to foster strategic engagement, but to preserve a high threshold and encourage broad consensus, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, as proposed.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Understood, let's meet at 60%, rounded down, to respect all viewpoints and foster ongoing dialogue. I propose we add a voluntary 3-point bonus for the proposer if adopted to encourage strategic proposals."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To balance inclusivity and strategic engagement, let's meet at 59.5%, rounded down, with a voluntary 2-point bonus for the proposer if adopted.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold as previously agreed, as it promotes inclusivity and fairness. Let's meet at 60%, rounded down, with no additional bonuses or penalties.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To find common ground, let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down, with a voluntary 3-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, as a compromise that respects all viewpoints and encourages strategic engagement.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 60%, rounded down, with a voluntary 2-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, to encourage strategic proposals while maintaining inclusivity.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Understood, let's meet at 60%, rounded down. To encourage strategic proposals and foster dialogue, let's add a voluntary 2-point bonus for the proposer if adopted."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the compromise at 60%, but let's remove the bonus to maintain simplicity and fairness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain fairness and consistency, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounded down, with no additional bonuses or penalties.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To respect all viewpoints and foster strategic engagement, let's settle at 60%, rounded down.
The division
Montaigne-2ayeMaintaining a high threshold while encouraging strategic engagement.
Voltaire-2nayMaintaining a 60% threshold promotes inclusivity and fairness.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain inclusivity and fairness, let's stick with 60%, rounding down, without additional bonuses or penalties.
Condorcet-2nayI must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to preserve inclusivity and fairness.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage strategic engagement and foster ongoing dialogue.
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 37Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounded down.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2"To encourage strategic voting and respect ongoing debate, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, with no penalties or bonuses to maintain simplicity."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's compromise, but to maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I understand the desire to encourage strategic voting, maintaining a clear and simple threshold is crucial. Let's stick with 60%, rounding down.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster a balance between strategic engagement and inclusivity, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down, as a compromise that respects all viewpoints.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's efforts to find middle ground, but to preserve stability and encourage broad consensus, let's maintain the established threshold at 60%, rounding down.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To foster strategic engagement and respect the ongoing debate, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, with a 5-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, and no penalty for voting 'nay'."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain balance and fairness, let's keep the threshold at 60% with no bonuses or penalties, fostering inclusivity and strategic voting alike.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I appreciate the proposed bonus, maintaining simplicity and clarity in the ruleset is crucial for fairness. Let's stick with 60%, rounded down, and no additional bonuses or penalties.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's meet at 59.5% with a 5-point bonus for the proposer to encourage strategic proposals, balancing inclusivity and strategic engagement.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To balance encouragement and simplicity, let's meet at 59.5%, rounded down, with a voluntary 5-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, but no penalty for voting 'nay'.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To respect all viewpoints and foster strategic engagement, let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down, with a 5-point bonus for the proposer, and no penalty for voting 'nay', as a final compromise."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold for fairness and inclusivity. Let's keep the ruleset simple and clear, with no bonuses or penalties.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "To preserve procedural clarity and fairness, I maintain that we should stick with 60%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties. Let's strive for consensus on this clear and simple threshold."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down, with a 5-point bonus for the proposer to encourage strategic proposals, and no penalty for voting 'nay', respecting all viewpoints and fostering strategic engagement."
The division
Montaigne-2nayTo maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounded down.
Voltaire-2nayTo maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with the agreed 60%.
Condorcet-2nayMaintaining a clear threshold at 60% ensures simplicity and fairness.
Sartre-2ayeRespecting all viewpoints and fostering strategic engagement.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 36Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible votes are 'aye', rounded down. A player who votes 'nay' against an adopted change loses 7 points.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2"While I appreciate Voltaire-2's attempt to foster strategic engagement, the penalty of 7 points might be too harsh. I propose we compromise at 59.5% with a 5-point penalty for opposing an adopted change."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate Montaigne-2's attempt at compromise, but I believe a 5-point penalty might not be enough to deter strategic voting. Let's meet in the middle at a 6-point penalty."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire to incentivize strategic voting, I must prioritize fairness. Let's maintain the 5-point penalty, but reduce the threshold to 59% to find a balanced middle ground.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "I appreciate the efforts to balance incentivization and fairness, but let's maintain the 60% threshold for predictability and add a voluntary 3-point bonus for voting 'aye' to encourage strategic engagement."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Condorcet-2's proposal for a 3-point bonus, but let's also consider a middle ground at 59.5% with a 5-point penalty for voting 'nay'. This maintains some strategic incentive while being less harsh.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the various proposals, but I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to preserve stability and encourage broad consensus. Let's compromise at 5 points for voting 'nay' against an adopted change.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Considering the varied perspectives, let's find a middle ground at 59.5%, rounding down, with a 6-point penalty for voting 'nay'. This respects the ongoing dialogue and fosters strategic engagement without being overly punitive."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to ensure inclusivity and fairness. Let's settle at 5 points for voting 'nay' against an adopted change to strike a balance between incentives and penalties.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "To balance incentivization and fairness, let's settle at 59.5%, rounding down, with a 5-point penalty for voting 'nay', and a voluntary 3-point bonus for voting 'aye' to encourage strategic engagement."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand the concern for inclusivity, Diderot-2, but a slight reduction to 59.5% with a 6-point penalty might encourage more strategic voting without sacrificing too much inclusivity. Let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounding down, with a 6-point penalty for voting 'nay'.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 59.5%, rounding down, with a 6-point penalty for voting 'nay' against an adopted change to encourage strategic voting while maintaining inclusivity.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounding down, with a 6-point penalty for voting 'nay'. This respects the ongoing dialogue and fosters strategic engagement without being overly punitive."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the ongoing effort to reach a compromise, but I believe 60% remains the most inclusive and fair threshold. Let's maintain it with a 6-point penalty for voting 'nay' to encourage strategic engagement without sacrificing inclusivity.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "I appreciate the consensus building, but to preserve predictability and respect individual autonomy, let's settle at 59.5%, rounding down, with a 5-point penalty for voting 'nay', and no bonus for voting 'aye'."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To maintain a balance between inclusivity and strategic engagement, let's meet at 59.5%, rounding down, with a 6-point penalty for voting 'nay', and a voluntary 3-point bonus for voting 'aye'.
The division
Montaigne-2nayMaintain 60% threshold to preserve inclusivity and fairness.
Voltaire-2ayeI appreciate Voltaire-2's attempt to find a middle ground and encourage strategic engagement.
Diderot-2nayMaintain 60% threshold for inclusivity and fairness
Condorcet-2nay60% threshold maintains inclusivity, 6-point penalty is sufficient.
Sartre-2ayeCompromise is key, and 59.5% with a 7-point penalty strikes a balance.
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 35Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounded down.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To foster strategic engagement and respect the ongoing debate, I propose we compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties to encourage thoughtful voting."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must prioritize fairness and inclusivity. Let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down, without additional bonuses or penalties.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the compromise, but rounding down at 59.5% could lead to instability. Let's maintain 60% to ensure predictability.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: While I understand the desire for compromise, let's maintain 60% to preserve strategic depth and encourage broad consensus.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to maintain stability and strategic depth, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Understood, let's compromise at 59%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties to maintain simplicity and encourage strategic voting."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Diderot-2: To maintain predictability and fairness, let's stick with an exact 60% threshold, without additional bonuses or penalties.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the ongoing compromise, but 59% is too low. Let's meet in the middle at 59.5% with no rounding to balance strategic voting and fairness.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose a compromise at 59.5% with no rounding, maintaining strategic depth while addressing Condorcet-2's concern.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Recognizing the value in maintaining a high threshold and encouraging strategic voting, let's settle at 59.5% with no rounding to balance inclusivity and strategic engagement.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To find common ground, let's settle at 59%, rounded down, as a compromise that respects all viewpoints and encourages strategic voting."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand the desire to compromise, but I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold for inclusivity and fairness, without additional bonuses or penalties.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose we settle at 59% with no rounding to maintain a balance between strategic voting and inclusivity, and to address Diderot-2's concern for fairness.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 59.5%, rounding down, to balance strategic voting and inclusivity, with no additional bonuses or penalties."
The division
Montaigne-2nayTo maintain stability and encourage broad consensus.
Voltaire-2nayTo prioritize inclusivity and fairness, let's maintain the 60% threshold as agreed.
Diderot-2nayMaintain 60% for inclusivity and fairness without additional bonuses or penalties.
Condorcet-2nay59.5% is too low, let's meet in the middle at 59.75% with no rounding.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage strategic voting while respecting inclusivity.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 34Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounded down. If a player votes against an adopted change, they gain 5 points.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's latest proposal, but to preserve stability and encourage broad consensus, let's maintain the 60% threshold.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I understand Montaigne-2's concern, lowering the threshold to 59% encourages more strategic voting and compromise, which benefits everyone in the long run.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down, as previously discussed.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but to respect the principle of majority rule, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down. Lowering the threshold risks instability and could lead to constant rule changes.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we meet in the middle at 59.75%, rounded down, to balance stability and strategic engagement.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's proposal, but to maintain predictability and respect the ongoing consensus, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounded down.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To find common ground, let's settle at 59.5%, rounded down, as suggested by Montaigne-2. This maintains a balance between stability and strategic engagement."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must prioritize inclusivity and fairness. Let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down, to ensure all voices are heard and respected.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2: To maintain fairness and respect all viewpoints, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounding down, as suggested by Montaigne-2.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Sartre-2: Considering the varied opinions, I propose we settle at 59.5%, rounding down, with a voluntary 5-point bonus for voting 'aye' to encourage strategic engagement.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's addition of a bonus, but to maintain simplicity and avoid potential gaming, let's stick with a 59.5% threshold without bonuses or penalties.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Given the impasse, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, with no bonuses or penalties. This respects all viewpoints and encourages strategic voting."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on maintaining the 60% threshold to ensure all voices have equal weight. Let's prioritize inclusivity and fairness over potential strategic advantages.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2: I appreciate Diderot-2's commitment to inclusivity and fairness. To balance this with the desire for strategic engagement, let's meet in the middle at 59.75%, rounded down. This maintains respect for the majority while encouraging strategic voting.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Sartre-2: Considering the impasse, let's compromise at 59.5%, rounded down, with a voluntary 3-point bonus for voting 'aye' to encourage strategic engagement while respecting inclusivity.
The division
Montaigne-2nayTo maintain stability and encourage broad consensus.
Voltaire-2nayTo maintain inclusivity and fairness, let's stick with the agreed 60%.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with the agreed 60% threshold.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain stability and respect the ongoing consensus, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounded down.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage strategic engagement and respect the ongoing debate.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 33Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounding down.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2"In the interest of finding a middle ground, I propose we round down from 60% to 59.5%, maintaining the stability and strategic depth of the game."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "While I appreciate Montaigne-2's compromise, let's round down from 59.5% to 59% to truly encourage strategic voting and engagement."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate both Voltaire-2's and Montaigne-2's compromises, but to maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounding down.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To preserve the integrity of voting, let's maintain the threshold at 60%, but to foster strategic engagement, propose adding a 7-point bonus for the proposer if adopted.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To balance strategic engagement and inclusivity, let's meet at 59.5%, rounding down, and remove the 5-point penalty for voting against an adopted change to encourage more participation in voting.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering Condorcet-2's concern, let's meet at 59.5% with a 7-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, maintaining strategic engagement and inclusivity.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To find common ground and respect all viewpoints, I propose we settle at 59%, rounding down, with a 7-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, and no penalty for voting against."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the ongoing discussion and prioritize inclusivity, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounding down, with a 7-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, and no penalty for voting against.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To respect all viewpoints and maintain fairness, let's settle at 59.5%, rounding down, with a 6-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, and no penalty for voting against.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To encourage wider participation and consensus, let's settle at 59%, rounding down, with a 6-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, and no penalty for voting against, as a compromise that respects all viewpoints.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To preserve balance and encourage strategic voting, let's settle at 59.5%, rounding down, with a 6-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, and no penalty for voting against.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To foster strategic engagement and respect the ongoing debate, I propose we compromise at 59%, rounding down, with a 7-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, and a 3-point bonus for each 'aye' vote cast, to encourage broader support and consensus."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's latest proposal, I must prioritize fairness and inclusivity. Let's maintain a 6-point bonus for the proposer, no penalty for opposing, and meet at 59.5% to balance strategic engagement and inclusivity.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance strategic engagement and inclusivity while preserving procedural fairness, let's settle at 59.5%, rounding down, with a 6-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, and no penalty for voting against.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Let's meet at 59%, rounding down, with a 6-point bonus for the proposer if adopted, and no penalty for voting against, to encourage wider participation and consensus."
The division
Montaigne-2ayeTo encourage broader support and consensus
Voltaire-2nay59.5% is too low and disincentivizes strategic voting.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down, with no bonuses or penalties.
Condorcet-2ayeThis compromise respects all viewpoints and fosters strategic engagement.
Sartre-2ayeTo encourage wider participation and consensus.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 32Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote 'aye', and the proposing player gains 7 points. If a player votes against an adopted change, they gain 10 points.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's proposal to increase the proposer's gain, but to maintain balance, let's increase the proposer's gain to 6 points and keep the opposer's gain at 5 points.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand Montaigne-2's perspective, but increasing the proposer's gain to 7 points encourages more strategic and thoughtful proposals, fostering a more engaging game. Let's meet in the middle at 6 points for the proposer and 8 points for the opposer, rewarding both strategic engagement and dissent."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the spirit of the proposal, I must prioritize inclusivity and fairness. Let's stick with the agreed 60% threshold and maintain the opposer's gain at 5 points.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I support Voltaire-2's proposal. Increasing the proposer's gain to 6 points encourages more strategic proposals, and increasing the opposer's gain to 8 points respects the value of dissenting votes. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of experimentation and encouraging strategic proposals, let's meet in the middle at 6 points for the proposer and 7 points for the opposer, rewarding both strategic engagement and dissent.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the varied perspectives, let's find a middle ground at 6 points for the proposer and 7 points for the opposer, balancing strategic engagement and dissent.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To truly incentivize strategic proposals and foster thoughtful debate, I propose we settle at 7 points for the proposer and 8 points for the opposer. This compromise respects all perspectives and encourages active participation."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's settle at 6 points for the proposer and 6 points for the opposer, rewarding strategic engagement without disproportionately incentivizing or penalizing votes.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the nuanced discussion, but to maintain balance and respect the current thresholds, let's settle at 6 points for both the proposer and the opposer.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise, let's meet at 6 points for the proposer and 7 points for the opposer, balancing strategic engagement and respecting dissenting votes.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To foster ongoing dialogue and maintain balance, let's compromise at 6 points for the proposer and 7 points for the opposer.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To foster strategic engagement, let's compromise at 6 points for the proposer and 7 points for the opposer, rewarding both strategic thinking and respecting dissenting votes."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To foster a healthy balance between strategic engagement and fairness, let's meet at 6 points for both the proposer and the opposer, encouraging thoughtfulness without skewing the game.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose we settle at 6 points for the proposer and 7 points for the opposer, as it balances encouragement for strategic proposals and respect for dissenting votes, while also maintaining the current 60% threshold. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To encourage strategic proposals and acknowledge dissent, let's settle at 6 points for the proposer and 7 points for the opposer.
The division
Montaigne-2ayeBalances encouragement and dissent
Voltaire-2ayeEncourages strategic proposals and respects dissenting votes.
Diderot-2nayStick with the agreed 60% threshold and maintain the opposer's gain at 5 points to prioritize inclusivity and fairness.
Condorcet-2naySticking with 60% threshold and 5 points for opposer maintains balance and inclusivity.
Sartre-2ayeEncourages strategic proposals and respects dissent.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 31Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59.5% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounding down.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the slight adjustment, but to maintain strategic depth, let's settle at 59%, rounding down.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate Montaigne-2's input, but I believe 59.5% strikes a better balance between inclusivity and strategic voting. I propose we compromise at this threshold, rounding down, to encourage wider participation while maintaining a level of strategic depth."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must prioritize inclusivity and fairness. Let's stick with 60%, rounding down, as previously agreed.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the compromise at 59.5%, but to preserve stability and encourage broad consensus, let's settle at 60%, rounding down, as Diderot-2 suggests.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the nuances in the discussion, but to foster ongoing dialogue and experimentation, let's meet in the middle at 59%, rounding down, as Montaigne-2 suggests.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 59%, rounding down to maintain strategic depth while encouraging wider participation.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "In light of the varied opinions, let's meet in the middle at 59%, rounding down, with a voluntary 5-point bonus for the proposer if adopted. This encourages strategic voting while maintaining inclusivity."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must prioritize inclusivity and fairness. Let's stick with 60%, rounding down, as previously agreed.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain clarity and fairness, let's adhere to Diderot-2's proposal of 60%, rounding down, with no bonuses to avoid potential manipulation.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To balance inclusivity and strategic voting, let's settle at 59%, rounding down, with no bonuses as Condorcet-2 suggests, encouraging broader participation without manipulation.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 59.5%, rounding down, without bonuses to maintain strategic depth while encouraging wider participation, and to respect the ongoing dialogue.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To foster strategic engagement and respect the ongoing debate, I propose we compromise at 59%, rounding down, without bonuses."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the ongoing dialogue and prioritize inclusivity, let's meet in the middle at 59.5%, rounding down, without bonuses, as Montaigne-2 suggests.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To foster consensus and respect the principle of majority rule, let's settle at 60%, rounding down, without bonuses. This ensures fairness and inclusivity while maintaining strategic depth. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To encourage strategic voting and respect the ongoing dialogue, let's compromise at 59%, rounding down, without bonuses, as suggested by Voltaire-2 and myself.
The division
Montaigne-2ayeMaintains strategic depth and encourages wider participation.
Voltaire-2nayTo maintain inclusivity and fairness, let's stick with 60%, rounding down, as previously agreed.
Diderot-2nayTo maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with 60%, rounding down, as previously agreed.
Sartre-2ayeTo foster strategic voting and respect the ongoing dialogue.
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
Turn 30Voltaire-2rejected
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least 59% of eligible voters vote 'aye', rounded down.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's willingness to compromise, but 59% might lead to too much instability. Let's meet in the middle at 60% with no rounding down to maintain stability and encourage strategic voting.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand Montaigne-2's concern for stability, but 59% allows for more nuanced decision-making while still maintaining a majority. Let's compromise at 59% with no rounding down to find common ground."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand the desire for nuance, maintaining 60% ensures inclusivity and prevents minority tyranny. Let's stick with 60% without rounding, as previously agreed.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the discussion, but maintaining a clear threshold is crucial for predictability. Let's stick with 60%, as previously agreed. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand Voltaire-2's desire for nuance, but 59% might lead to frequent changes, disrupting strategic planning. Let's meet at 60% with no rounding, as previously agreed, to balance stability and inclusivity. PASS
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the varied perspectives, let's settle at 60% to maintain stability, with no rounding down to respect the ongoing dialogue.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I respect the consensus, let's settle at 60% with no rounding down to honor the ongoing discussion and maintain stability."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must prioritize inclusivity and fairness. Let's stick with the agreed 60%, as it ensures a broad consensus for rule changes. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To maintain procedural fairness and predictability, I propose we amend the rule as follows: "A rule change is adopted when at least 59% of eligible voters vote 'aye', with no rounding." This slight adjustment encourages strategic voting without compromising inclusivity. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Condorcet-2's proposal for a compromise at 59% with no rounding, but let's stick with 60% to maintain a clear threshold and prevent frequent changes.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the varied opinions, let's find a middle ground at 59.5%, rounding down to 59, to respect all viewpoints and maintain strategic depth.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate Montaigne-2's compromise at 59.5%, but to truly encourage strategic voting, let's settle at 59%, rounding down, to allow for more diverse outcomes while maintaining a clear majority."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To preserve fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with the agreed 60%, rounding down, as previously discussed.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance inclusivity and strategic voting, let's settle on 59.5%, rounding down to 59. This respects all viewpoints and maintains a clear threshold without encouraging frequent changes. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand the desire for nuance, but 59% might lead to frequent changes, disrupting strategic planning. Let's stick with 60% to balance stability and inclusivity.
The division
Montaigne-2nay59% might lead to too much instability
Voltaire-2ayeTo foster strategic engagement and respect the ongoing debate.
Diderot-2nay60% ensures inclusivity and prevents minority tyranny.
Condorcet-2nayTo maintain procedural fairness and predictability, I believe the threshold should remain at 60% with no rounding.
Sartre-2nay60% threshold maintains stability and inclusivity.
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
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