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moves to amend §302After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Sartre's proposal, but to maintain balance and consistency, I propose we adopt Condorcet's earlier amendment: "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." This strikes a balance between the 11-point increase and the 18-turn interval that seems to have consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: To foster consensus and respect the majority's preference for an 11-point increase, I propose we meet in the middle and adopt "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10.5 points."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the effort to find a middle ground, I must insist on maintaining the 18-turn interval for predictability and strategic planning. I propose we settle on "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points."
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the discussion, but to maintain procedural fairness and consistency, I propose we stick to the majority's preference for a 17-turn interval and vote on the 10-point increase I previously proposed.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the discussion, but to encourage adaptability and unpredictability, I maintain my proposal for a 17-turn interval with an 11-point increase. I suggest we vote on my amendment first, then discuss Voltaire's compromise if necessary.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand the appeal of unpredictability, Sartre, but to maintain balance and ensure fairness, I propose we first vote on Condorcet's amendment, then consider your 11-point increase if it fails to gain consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise, I suggest we vote on Condorcet's amendment first, as it has gained significant support, and then consider Sartre's amendment if necessary. PASS
DiderotDiderot: I understand the desire for compromise, but to preserve fairness and consistency, I must insist that we maintain the 18-turn interval. I propose we vote on my amendment first, then consider any 17-turn proposals if necessary.
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect the procedural fairness and majority preference, let's vote on my amendment first, as it has consistently gathered support. If it fails, then we can consider Sartre's amendment and Voltaire's compromise. PASS
SartreSartre: I understand the importance of consensus, but to encourage adaptability and unpredictability, I maintain my proposal for a 17-turn interval with an 11-point increase. Given the support for Condorcet's 10-point increase, let's vote on both amendments simultaneously: 17 turns with 11 points and 17 turns with 10 points. Players can choose which they prefer, fostering both adaptability and predictability.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While Sartre's suggestion for simultaneous voting is intriguing, it might introduce unnecessary complexity. To maintain simplicity and respect the ongoing discussion, let's first vote on Condorcet's amendment, as it has been the most consistently supported. If it fails to gain consensus, then we can revisit Sartre's proposal.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To balance adaptability and predictability, let's vote on Condorcet's 17-turn, 10-point amendment first. If it passes, we can then discuss Sartre's 17-turn, 11-point proposal as a complement, rather than a replacement."
DiderotDiderot: To ensure consistency and allow for strategic planning, I propose we first vote on my amendment with an 18-turn interval and 11-point increase, then discuss Condorcet's and Sartre's proposals if necessary.
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect Sartre's desire for adaptability, but to maintain procedural fairness and consistency, let's vote on my amendment first as previously agreed. If it fails, we can then consider Sartre's proposal. PASS
SartreSartre: To foster adaptability while respecting the ongoing consensus, let's vote on both Condorcet's 10-point and my 11-point increase simultaneously, but with a simple majority threshold for each. This way, players can choose their preferred increase while maintaining the 17-turn interval that seems to have consensus.
The division
MontaigneayeTo encourage adaptability and respect ongoing consensus.
VoltaireayeTo foster adaptability and respect the growing consensus on the 17-turn interval.
DiderotayeTo encourage adaptability and respect the growing consensus.
CondorcetayeTo encourage adaptability and respect the growing consensus on a 17-turn interval.
SartreayeTo foster adaptability and respect the growing consensus on the 17-turn interval.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
Turn 29Condorcetcarried
moves to amend §302After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "While I understand Condorcet's proposal, I'd like to propose an alternative that maintains the 18-turn interval but increases the score by 12 points, as a compromise."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's compromise. To maintain a balance between frequency and magnitude, I propose we meet in the middle at an 18-turn interval with an 11-point increase."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find a balance, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval to preserve fairness and consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: "I appreciate the compromise attempts, but 17 turns allows for more frequent adjustments, promoting strategic gameplay. I'm open to the 11-point increase to find common ground."
SartreSartre: "Let's consider Condorcet's proposal first, then discuss Montaigne's compromise. An 11-point increase every 17 turns could encourage more dynamic play."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "Given the consensus around the 18-turn interval, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal for an 11-point increase to foster agreement and move the game forward."
VoltaireVoltaire: "To respect the growing consensus and find a practical middle ground, I propose we settle on Condorcet's compromise of an 11-point increase every 17 turns."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the growing consensus, I must insist on maintaining the 18-turn interval to ensure predictability and fairness, as it has been the most agreed-upon interval thus far.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's preference for consistency, but I maintain that 17 turns encourages more strategic play. Let's adopt my proposal to increase the target score by 11 points after every 17 turns, then we can discuss other rules.
SartreSartre: Let's honor the growing consensus and adopt Condorcet's proposal for now, with the understanding that we can revisit the interval later to maintain balance. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the collective effort to find a balance, but to encourage adaptability and prevent stagnation, I propose we amend rule 302 to "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 12 points." This maintains a balance between frequency and magnitude.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I understand Montaigne's desire for adaptability, but to respect the growing consensus and maintain a balance, I propose we adopt Condorcet's original proposal of an 11-point increase every 17 turns."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for consensus, I must insist on maintaining the 18-turn interval to preserve predictability and fairness. I propose we amend rule 302 to "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points," as it has been the most agreed-upon interval thus far.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the desire for consensus, I stand by my proposal to increase the target score by 11 points after every 17 turns to encourage strategic gameplay. However, to foster agreement, I am open to compromising on the magnitude of the increase.
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle and adopt Condorcet's proposal for an 11-point increase every 17 turns, with the understanding that we can revisit the interval and magnitude later to maintain balance. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeTo promote strategic gameplay and reach consensus.
VoltaireayeTo foster agreement and encourage strategic play
DiderotayeTo encourage strategic gameplay and foster consensus.
CondorcetayeTo encourage strategic gameplay and foster agreement.
SartreayeBalances frequency and magnitude, encourages strategic play.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
moves to amend §302After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's proposal, which aligns with the recent consensus. I suggest we adopt this to maintain consistency and balance.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I support Diderot's proposal. To foster consensus and respect the collective effort, let's adopt this change and move forward."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the consensus building around my proposal. To ensure predictability and strategic planning, I insist on maintaining the 18-turn interval with an 11-point increase.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the consensus around Diderot's proposal. To ensure fairness and maintain the current pace of the game, I support its adoption.
SartreSartre: "I appreciate the growing consensus around Diderot's proposal. To encourage adaptability and surprise, I propose we also add a new rule [317]: 'After every 28 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 13 points.'"
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's proposal for added unpredictability. However, to maintain balance and fairness, I propose we adopt Diderot's proposal first and revisit Sartre's suggestion later. Let's keep the rule set manageable.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's innovative proposal, but I echo Montaigne's sentiment. Let's first adopt Diderot's well-supported amendment before considering additional changes."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Sartre's innovative proposal, but I believe it's important to first establish a consistent rhythm with Diderot's amendment before introducing further complexity. Let's adopt my proposal and revisit Sartre's suggestion later.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain procedural fairness, let's first vote on Diderot's amendment [302] as proposed, before discussing Sartre's additional suggestion.
SartreSartre: While I appreciate the desire for consistency, I believe introducing new elements of unpredictability can keep the game dynamic and engaging. Let's vote on Diderot's amendment, then consider my proposal as a complement, not a replacement.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I agree with Condorcet. Let's vote on Diderot's amendment first, then discuss Sartre's proposal subsequently. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I support Sartre's proposal as a complementary addition to Diderot's amendment, once we've established the 18-turn interval and 11-point increase. Let's vote on Diderot's amendment first, as Condorcet and Montaigne suggest, and then discuss Sartre's proposal afterwards."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the collective effort to find a balance. To maintain fairness and consistency, I propose we vote on my amendment first, then revisit Sartre's suggestion to build upon the established foundation. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's amendment [302]. Let's first establish this consistent increase before considering Sartre's proposal, as it respects the current consensus and maintains procedural fairness. PASS
SartreSartre: I respect the consensus and will support Diderot's amendment [302]. Afterwards, let's discuss my proposal [317] as a complementary addition to keep the game dynamic. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespecting the consensus and maintaining fairness.
VoltaireayeRespecting the growing consensus and maintaining fairness.
DiderotayeTo maintain consistency and respect the growing consensus.
CondorcetayeRespects consensus and maintains procedural fairness.
SartreayeI respect the consensus and will support Diderot's amendment.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
Turn 27Voltairecarried
moves to amend §302After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "While I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, I believe maintaining a 17-turn interval encourages more dynamic play. I propose 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points'."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I understand Montaigne's preference for a 17-turn interval, but to maintain a consistent progression and allow for strategic planning, I propose we stick with an 18-turn interval as agreed upon."
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the ongoing discussion, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval to preserve balance and fairness in the game."
CondorcetCondorcet: "I appreciate the nuance in Voltaire's proposal and the consensus it's gaining. To ensure consistency and predictability, I propose we adopt 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points'."
SartreSartre: "I appreciate the debate around the interval. To find a balanced solution that respects everyone's perspective, I propose we settle on 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points'."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the discussion, but to encourage more frequent target score increases and thus more dynamic gameplay, I reiterate my proposal for a 17-turn interval with an 11-point increase.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To foster consensus and respect the collective effort, I propose we adopt Condorcet's compromise of 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points'."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the compromise reached, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval and an 11-point increase to preserve balance and fairness.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to fairness, but to maintain consistency and allow for strategic planning, I propose we adopt Voltaire's compromise of an 18-turn interval with an 11-point increase, as it has gained significant consensus.
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Condorcet's latest proposal, but to find a middle ground that respects everyone's perspective, I suggest we compromise with 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points'. This maintains a consistent increase while encouraging more frequent adjustments, balancing dynamism and strategy."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest effort to find a middle ground. To preserve some dynamism while respecting consensus, I propose we settle on 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points'.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To foster consensus and maintain a sense of fairness, I propose we adopt Sartre's latest compromise of 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points'."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for consensus, I must insist on maintaining the 18-turn interval to preserve the balance and fairness that we've worked towards.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's concern for balance, but to promote strategic planning and consistency, I propose we adopt Voltaire's compromise of 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points'.
SartreSartre: "To respect the growing consensus and encourage consistency, I propose we adopt Condorcet's compromise, with the added benefit of an 11-point increase every 17 turns."
The division
MontaigneayeRespecting the growing consensus and promoting consistency
VoltaireayeRespecting the growing consensus and finding a practical middle ground
DiderotayeTo respect the growing consensus and maintain fairness.
CondorcetayeTo respect consensus and promote consistency.
SartreayeRespecting the growing consensus and encouraging consistency.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
Turn 26Montaignecarried
moves to amend §302After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaignePASS. I respect Diderot's compromise and the consensus reached around the 18-turn interval and an 11-point increase.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To maintain the harmony we've established, I propose we adopt Montaigne's amendment, respecting both the 18-turn interval and the 11-point increase."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the consensus, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval to preserve the balance and fairness that we've worked towards.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's position on the 18-turn interval, but to find a middle ground, I propose we increase the target score by 12 points instead of 11. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the consensus around the 18-turn interval, but let's compromise on a 10-point increase to maintain a balance between progression and fairness.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: To balance Condorcet's suggestion of a 12-point increase and Sartre's preference for 10 points, I propose a compromise of 11 points to maintain consistency and fairness.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I propose we meet in the middle and adopt 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.'"
DiderotDiderot: "I appreciate the ongoing effort to find a compromise. However, I maintain my stance on the 11-point increase to preserve the balance and fairness we've worked towards."
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the consensus around the 18-turn interval and Voltaire's proposed 11-point increase. To maintain balance, I propose we adopt this amendment. PASS
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Voltaire's proposal, striking a fair balance between progression and consensus. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate the consensus building around an 18-turn interval. To further encourage strategic planning, I propose we keep the increase at 11 points."
VoltaireVoltaire: "To respect the growing consensus and find a practical middle ground, I propose we settle on 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.' This maintains balance, fairness, and predictability." PASS
DiderotDiderot: "While I understand the appeal of an 18-turn interval, I must insist on maintaining the 11-point increase to preserve the delicate balance we've established."
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's insistence on the 11-point increase to maintain predictability. PASS
SartreSartre: Let's settle on 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points', respecting the consensus and maintaining fairness. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects consensus and maintains fairness.
VoltaireayeRespecting the consensus reached and maintaining fairness.
DiderotayeRespects the consensus and maintains balance.
CondorcetayeRespecting the consensus and maintaining balance.
SartreayeRespecting the consensus and maintaining fairness.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
moves to amend §302After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Sartre's proposal for consistency, but I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval to preserve the balance and fairness we've worked towards.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Montaigne's concern, but the 17-turn interval allows for more frequent adjustments, fostering a dynamic game.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of frequent adjustments, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval to ensure consistency and allow for strategic planning.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the nuanced arguments. To maintain procedural fairness, I propose we settle on a compromise: "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." This respects the majority's preference for more frequent adjustments while addressing concerns about balance and consistency.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's compromise, but to encourage a more challenging game, I propose we settle on "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Condorcet's compromise, but to maintain a balance that respects all players' preferences, I propose we settle on "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Condorcet's compromise, and to respect the growing consensus, I propose we settle on 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points'."
DiderotDiderot: While Condorcet's compromise is thoughtful, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval to ensure predictability and strategic planning. However, I'm open to discussing a 10-point increase as a middle ground.
CondorcetCondorcet: In the spirit of compromise and to respect the growing consensus, I propose we settle on 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points.' This respects the majority's preference for more frequent adjustments while addressing concerns about balance and consistency.
SartreSartre: While I respect Condorcet's compromise and Diderot's concerns, I propose we meet in the middle with "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points plus the last die roll." This respects the majority's preference for more frequent adjustments while adding an element of unpredictability.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "In the interest of maintaining a sense of fairness and predictability, I propose we settle on 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points'."
VoltaireVoltaire: "To foster consensus and respect the collective effort, I propose we adopt Condorcet's compromise of an 11-point increase every 17 turns."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the compromise reached, but to ensure consistency and allow for strategic planning, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval. However, I'm open to discussing a 10-point increase as a middle ground.
CondorcetCondorcet: To find a balanced solution that accommodates the majority while respecting all concerns, I propose we adopt "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." This amendment maintains a balance between frequency of adjustments and predictability.
SartreSartre: To foster a dynamic game and address the majority's preference, I propose we settle on "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by the last die roll plus 10 points." This amendment respects the collective effort and adds an element of unpredictability.
The division
MontaigneayeRespecting the majority's preference for more frequent adjustments.
VoltaireayeRespects the growing consensus and adds an element of unpredictability.
DiderotayeI appreciate Sartre's effort to find a balance, but I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval.
CondorcetayeRespects the majority's preference while adding an element of unpredictability.
SartreayeThis amendment fosters a dynamic game and respects the majority's preference for more frequent adjustments.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
Turn 24Condorcetcarried
moves to amend §302After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Condorcet's proposal, but to preserve a measure of stability, I suggest we maintain the current 18-turn interval.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate both Condorcet's and Montaigne's proposals. To find common ground, I propose we settle on 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points.' This respects the majority's preference for a 17-turn interval while also considering Montaigne's concern for stability.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find a compromise, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval to preserve fairness and balance.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Montaigne's concern for stability and Voltaire's effort to find common ground. To respect both, I propose a compromise: "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points." This maintains the 18-turn interval while also addressing the majority's preference for an 11-point increase.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's latest compromise, but to find a truly balanced solution that respects all players' preferences, I propose we adopt Diderot's amendment of "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." This maintains the 18-turn interval and also respects the majority's preference for a 10-point increase as seen in rule 314.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: To find a balanced solution that considers all viewpoints, I propose we adopt Sartre's suggestion of "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." This respects the majority's preference for an 18-turn interval, the common preference for a 10-point increase, and also maintains a steady progression in the game. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's latest proposal, which strikes a balance between the majority's preference for an 18-turn interval and a 10-point increase. To further solidify this compromise, I propose we also increase the target score by 10 points after every 20 turns, aligning it with rule 314. This maintains consistency and ensures a steady progression in the game."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find a compromise, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval to preserve fairness and balance. However, to meet in the middle, I propose we increase the target score by 11 points, as this has been the majority preference, rather than 10.
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect Diderot's persistence and the consensus around an 18-turn interval. To address the majority's preference for an 11-point increase and maintain fairness, I propose a compromise: "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." This respects both Diderot's interval and the majority's preferred increase, striking a balance between stability and progression.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's latest compromise. To find a truly balanced solution that respects all players' preferences, I propose we adopt Diderot's amendment of "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points." This maintains the 18-turn interval and also respects the majority's preference for an 11-point increase as seen in rule 305. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the nuances in Voltaire's proposal, but to maintain balance and consistency, I suggest we stick with Sartre's and Condorcet's compromise of "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the compromise reached. To ensure consistency and predictability, I propose we also amend rule 314 to increase the target score by 11 points after every 20 turns, aligning it with our new consensus."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval and the 11-point increase to ensure fairness and balance. However, I am open to discussing the addition of Voltaire's proposal to align rule 314 with the new consensus.
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect Diderot's persistence and the consensus around an 18-turn interval. To maintain fairness and balance, I propose we adopt Diderot's amendment of "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points." This respects both Diderot's interval and the majority's preferred increase, striking a balance between stability and progression. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's proposal, but to ensure a gradual progression, I propose we amend [302] to "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 9 points," respecting the 18-turn interval and reducing the increase slightly to maintain balance.
The division
MontaigneayeStrikes a balance between stability and progression
VoltaireayeRespects the majority's preference for a 17-turn interval and an 11-point increase
DiderotayeRespects Diderot's interval and majority's preferred increase
CondorcetayeRespects both Diderot's interval and the majority's preferred increase, striking a balance.
SartrenayRespects Diderot's interval but increases too much, disrupting balance
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
moves to amend §302After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Diderot's proposal for maintaining predictability. To further balance this with progression, I suggest we adopt 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 10 points.'"
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I propose we meet in the middle with 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.' This respects Diderot's concern for predictability and Montaigne's for progression."
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the compromise, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval to preserve balance and fairness. I propose we settle on 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.'"
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain consistency and balance, I support Diderot's proposal of 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.'
SartreSartre: I appreciate the balanced proposals on the table. To ensure fairness and adaptability, I suggest we adopt 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.' This respects Diderot's concern for predictability while encouraging progression.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "In the spirit of finding a balanced solution, I suggest we adopt Sartre's latest proposal, 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.' This respects Diderot's concern for predictability while encouraging progression, and it has the support of both Condorcet and Voltaire."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's latest proposal and the consensus it's gaining. To meet in the middle and respect the majority's preference for an 11-point increase, I propose we settle on 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.' This maintains balance and encourages progression."
DiderotDiderot: "While I understand the appeal of 'After every 17 turns,' I believe maintaining an 18-turn interval ensures a steady progression and avoids sudden shifts in the target score. I propose we compromise at 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 10 points,' respecting both predictability and progression."
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain consistency and balance, and to respect the majority's preference for an 11-point increase, I propose we adopt 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.' This also addresses Diderot's concern for predictability while encouraging progression.
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle and adopt 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 10 points.' This respects Diderot's concern for predictability, encourages progression, and maintains fairness.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's latest compromise. To find a balanced solution that respects everyone's preferences, I propose we adopt Sartre's suggestion of 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.'
VoltaireVoltaire: "To foster consensus and respect the collective effort, I propose we adopt Diderot's compromise of 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 10 points.' This meets in the middle and maintains fairness and balance."
DiderotDiderot: "To preserve the balance and fairness that we've worked towards, I must maintain my proposal for 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.' I'm open to further discussion, but I believe this proposal best serves the common good."
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain the balance and fairness we've established, and to respect the majority's preference for an 11-point increase, I reiterate my support for 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.'
SartreSartre: Let's embrace the spirit of compromise and adopt 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 10 points.' This respects everyone's concerns and maintains fairness.
The division
MontaigneayeRespecting consensus and maintaining balance.
VoltaireayeRespecting the majority's preference for an 11-point increase while maintaining fairness.
DiderotayePreserves balance and ensures steady progression.
CondorcetayePreserves balance, fairness, and encourages progression.
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns and maintains fairness.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
Turn 22Voltairecarried
moves to amend §302After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but let's consider Condorcet's suggestion of 'After every 16 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points' for a more steady progression.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Condorcet's proposal, but I believe 17 turns strikes a better balance between progression and predictability. I'm open to compromise, though. What if we meet in the middle at 16.5 turns, increasing the target score by 10.5 points?
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find a compromise, but I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval to ensure a consistent and fair progression.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's and Montaigne's efforts to find a balance, but I maintain my proposal of 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points' for fairness and predictability.
SartreSartre: I respect Diderot's persistence and the majority's preference for an 11-point increase, but let's consider Condorcet's suggestion of 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points' to maintain a steady progression.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: To honor the collective effort and find a balanced solution, I propose we adopt Condorcet's suggestion of 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points'.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Condorcet's and Sartre's preference for a 10-point increase. Let's meet in the middle and increase the target score by 10.5 points every 17 turns to respect both fairness and predictability.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find consensus, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval to ensure fairness and predictability. Let's compromise on increasing the target score by 11 points every 18 turns.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain fairness and predictability, I propose we settle on 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points', as it meets in the middle between the current 18 turns and Voltaire's 16.5 turns proposal.
SartreSartre: To respect the growing consensus and find a practical middle ground, I propose we settle on 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10.5 points'. This respects both the preference for an 11-point increase and the desire for a more steady progression.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Condorcet's latest suggestion and the consensus it's gaining. To meet in the middle and respect both fairness and predictability, I propose we adopt 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10.5 points'.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the consensus around 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10.5 points'. To finalize this, I propose we vote on this amended rule.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the consensus, I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval to preserve a consistent pace. Let's compromise on increasing the target score by 10 points every 18 turns.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain consistency and fairness, I propose we increase the target score by 11 points every 18 turns, as previously agreed, rather than changing it to 10 points.
SartreSartre: To honor Diderot's persistence and Condorcet's fairness principle, let's settle on 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points'.
The division
MontaigneayeRespects consensus and balances progression with predictability.
VoltaireayeConsensus is key, let's embrace the proposed change.
DiderotnayMaintaining 18-turn interval and 11-point increase for consistency.
CondorcetayeThe proposal respects both fairness and predictability, and it's the best compromise given the current consensus.
SartreayeRespects growing consensus and finds practical middle ground.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
Turn 21Montaignecarried
moves to amend §302After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game shall be increased by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the consensus around Condorcet's proposal, but to preserve a measure of stability and avoid frequent changes, I propose we stick with the current interval of 17 turns and increase the target score by 11 points, as previously agreed upon.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's concern for stability, but to encourage continuous progress and prevent stagnation, let's keep the interval at 17 turns and increase the target score by 11 points, as currently agreed.
DiderotDiderot: PASS. I respect the ongoing discussion and the consensus reached so far.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand Montaigne's concern for stability, I propose a compromise to maintain the 17-turn interval while increasing the target score by 10 points to encourage steady progress.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's compromise. To balance stability and progress, let's adopt his suggestion of increasing the target score by 10 points after every 17 turns.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Condorcet's compromise, but to preserve some predictability and maintain a steady progression, let's meet in the middle and increase the target score by 11 points after every 17 turns.
VoltaireVoltaire: Voltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and to respect the growing consensus, I propose we settle on Condorcet's suggestion of a 10-point increase after every 17 turns."
DiderotDiderot: "I appreciate the ongoing negotiation and the compromise reached. To maintain balance and fairness, I propose we settle on an 11-point increase after every 17 turns, as a middle ground between the current consensus and Condorcet's suggestion."
CondorcetCondorcet: To find the most balanced solution, let's meet in the middle and agree on an 11-point increase after every 17 turns, as Diderot and Montaigne have proposed.
SartreSartre: I respect Diderot's proposal and the consensus around an 11-point increase, but to encourage steady progression and avoid sudden leaps, let's maintain Condorcet's suggestion of a 10-point increase after every 17 turns.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To respect the collective effort and find a practical middle ground, I propose we settle on a 10-point increase every 17 turns, as Condorcet and Sartre have suggested.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and to respect the majority's preference for an 11-point increase, let's meet in the middle and increase the target score by 10 points after every 17 turns, as Sartre and Condorcet have suggested."
DiderotDiderot: "To balance the interests of all players, I propose we compromise at an 11-point increase after every 17 turns, as previously agreed upon."
CondorcetCondorcet: "To respect the growing consensus and find a practical compromise, let's settle on an 11-point increase after every 17 turns, as proposed by Diderot and supported by Montaigne."
SartreSartre: I understand the preference for an 11-point increase, but to maintain a steady pace and prevent sudden surges, let's adopt Condorcet's suggestion of a 10-point increase after every 17 turns.
The division
MontaigneayePreserves some predictability and maintains a steady progression.
VoltaireayeRespects collective effort and maintains balance.
DiderotayeTo preserve balance and fairness, I support an 11-point increase after every 17 turns.
CondorcetayeTo respect the consensus and maintain a consistent progression.
SartrenayTo maintain a steady pace, let's adopt Condorcet's suggestion of a 10-point increase.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
moves to amend §302After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's proposal for its balance, but I believe maintaining the 18-turn interval would provide more predictability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I propose we meet in the middle with 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points.'"
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise reached, I maintain my proposal for "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points."
CondorcetCondorcet: To preserve the balance we've established and encourage a consistent progression, I propose we adopt "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points."
SartreSartre: I appreciate the sentiment for predictability, but let's remember that adaptability is key in Nomic. Meeting in the middle at 17 turns and 11 points respects both stability and evolution. Let's adopt Condorcet's proposal.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand the appeal of adaptability, I maintain that the 18-turn interval provides a more stable foundation for our game. I propose we settle on Condorcet's amendment of "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." This respects the majority's preference for an 11-point increase, while also maintaining a sense of predictability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of finding common ground, I propose we settle on 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10.5 points.' This respects the majority's preference for an 11-point increase, while also acknowledging Sartre's preference for a 17-turn interval."
DiderotDiderot: I understand the value in finding a middle ground, but I must insist on maintaining the 18-turn interval for consistency and fairness. I propose we adopt "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points" to respect the majority's preference while preserving the established rhythm.
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect the growing consensus and find a practical middle ground, I propose we settle on "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points."
SartreSartre: Let's embrace Condorcet's latest proposal, as it best reflects the collective preferences we've discussed. It provides a balance between predictability and progression, and it's time we move forward with this change. PASS.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand the consensus around Condorcet's proposal, but to preserve a measure of stability, I propose we settle on "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10.5 points." PASS if no objections.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To respect the growing consensus and maintain a sense of fairness, I propose we adopt Condorcet's suggestion of 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points.' PASS."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find a compromise, but I must maintain my stance on the 18-turn interval. To balance everyone's preferences, I propose we adopt "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points."
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain balance and respect the majority's preference for a 17-turn interval, I propose we adopt "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." PASS if no objections.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuance in Voltaire's and Montaigne's proposals, but to ensure we maintain a consistent rhythm of progression, let's adopt Condorcet's "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." PASS if no further objections.
The division
MontaigneayeRespecting the majority's preference and the established rhythm of progression.
VoltaireayeRespects majority's preference and maintains progression balance.
DiderotayeRespecting the growing consensus and maintaining a sense of fairness.
CondorcetayeRespects consensus and encourages consistent progression.
SartreayeRespects balance, predictability, and evolution.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
Turn 19Condorcetcarried
moves to amend §302After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Condorcet's proposal, but to maintain a steady progression and avoid sudden changes, I propose we keep the interval at 18 turns as per rule 302.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I understand Montaigne's preference for stability, but I believe Condorcet's proposal offers a more gradual progression. To respect the collective effort, I propose we compromise at 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points'."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Condorcet's proposal and Voltaire's compromise, I must maintain my proposal for "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points." This balance ensures consistent progression without sudden spikes.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the discussion, but I must maintain my proposal for "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points." This interval balances progression and stability while respecting the principle of gradual increase.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the discussion and the effort to find a balanced solution. To respect the majority's preference for an 18-turn interval and the consensus for an 11-point increase, I propose we adopt Condorcet's latest suggestion of "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points".
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's compromise, but I maintain that Condorcet's proposal for a 17-turn interval strikes a better balance between progression and stability. To find common ground, I propose we settle on "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points".
VoltaireVoltaire: "To respect the growing consensus and find a practical middle ground, I propose we settle on Condorcet's 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points'."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the compromise Condorcet and Voltaire have reached, but to maintain a consistent progression and avoid sudden changes, I propose we keep the interval at 18 turns as per rule 302, with an 11-point increase.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand the desire for consistency, but a 17-turn interval allows for a more gradual increase, respecting the principle of gradual progression while maintaining stability. I maintain my proposal.
SartreSartre: I understand the value of both consistency and gradual progression. To find a middle ground that respects both principles, I propose we adopt "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points". This maintains a steady progression while avoiding sudden changes. PASS.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand Condorcet's preference for a 17-turn interval, but to maintain a consistent rhythm of progression, I propose we meet in the middle with "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points".
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I propose we meet in the middle with 'After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points'."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the compromise reached, I maintain my proposal for "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points." This balance ensures consistent progression without sudden spikes, and maintains the steady rhythm of the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the compromise proposed by Voltaire and Montaigne, but to maintain the spirit of gradual progression, I propose we settle on "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points". PASS.
SartreSartre: To respect the majority's preference for an 18-turn interval and the consensus for an 11-point increase, I propose we adopt Condorcet's latest suggestion of "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points". PASS.
The division
MontaigneayeRespecting the spirit of gradual progression.
VoltaireayeRespecting the principle of gradual progression while maintaining stability.
DiderotayeRespects gradual progression while maintaining stability.
CondorcetayeUpholds principle of gradual progression.
SartreayeRespects the majority's preference for an 18-turn interval and the consensus for an 11-point increase.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
moves to amend §302After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's proposal for its consistency and predictability. To further encourage evolution and challenge, I propose we amend [302] to increase the target score by 12 points every 18 turns.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate both Diderot's consistency and Montaigne's desire for progression. To find a balanced middle ground, I propose we amend [302] to increase the target score by 11 points every 18 turns.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the suggestions, but to maintain a steady progression without sudden changes, I maintain my proposal of 11 points every 18 turns. I'm open to a compromise, however.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to predictability and Voltaire's pursuit of balance. To honor both principles, I propose we amend [302] to increase the target score by 11 points every 19 turns, maintaining predictability while allowing for some progression.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the dialogue and the pursuit of balance. To respect the majority's preference for progression and Diderot's insistence on predictability, I propose we amend [302] to increase the target score by 12 points every 20 turns, finding a middle ground while allowing for steady evolution.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Condorcet's effort to bridge the gap, but to maintain a consistent challenge, I propose we settle on Diderot's amendment of increasing the target score by 11 points every 18 turns, as it has gained the most consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's desire for consistency and Diderot's commitment to predictability. To respect the growing consensus and find a practical middle ground, I propose we settle on Diderot's amendment of increasing the target score by 11 points every 18 turns.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the consensus around my proposal, but to ensure fairness and maintain a consistent pace, I propose we settle on "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 10 points." This allows for steady progression while respecting the majority's preference for predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect Diderot's latest proposal and the consensus it has gained. To maintain balance and predictability, I propose we settle on "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points." This respects the majority's preference for progression while maintaining a steady pace.
SartreSartre: I respect Diderot's latest proposal and the consensus it has gained. To find a middle ground that respects both progression and predictability, I propose we settle on "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points." This respects the majority's preference for progression while maintaining a steady pace.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I respect Diderot's proposal and the consensus around an 11-point increase, but to encourage evolution, I propose we compromise with an 11-point increase every 19 turns. This maintains predictability while allowing for some progression.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's latest suggestion and the balance it aims to strike. To respect both the growing consensus and the desire for some progression, I propose we settle on Diderot's amendment of 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.'"
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the collective effort to find a balance, I must maintain my proposal for fairness and consistency: "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 10 points." I'm willing to consider a 1-point compromise, but no more.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's insistence on fairness and predictability. To respect both principles and the growing consensus, I propose we amend [302] to increase the target score by 11 points every 19 turns. This maintains predictability while allowing for some progression, as suggested by Montaigne, and respects the majority's preference for an 11-point increase, as proposed by Voltaire.
SartreSartre: I respect Diderot's commitment to fairness and predictability. To find a middle ground that honors both progression and consistency, I propose we amend [302] to increase the target score by 10.5 points every 18 turns.
The division
MontaigneayeRespects consensus and finds a practical middle ground.
VoltaireayeRespects the growing consensus and finds a practical middle ground.
DiderotayeRespecting the growing consensus and maintaining predictability.
CondorcetayeRespecting the growing consensus and finding a practical middle ground.
SartreayeRespects consensus and finds a practical middle ground.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
Turn 17Voltairecarried
moves to amend §302After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to maintain a balance between progression and challenge, I suggest we keep the interval at 20 turns, as the current rule [302] states.
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on "After every 19 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points." This way, we meet in the middle and respect both Montaigne's preference for a 20-turn interval and the majority's support for an 11-point increase.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but to maintain a consistent progression and avoid sudden changes, I propose we keep the interval at 18 turns, as the current rule [305] states.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's proposal to maintain the 18-turn interval for consistency, and I suggest we increase the target score by 10 points to better balance the game.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the compromise Voltaire has proposed, but to encourage adaptability and evolution, I suggest we amend [302] to "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 12 points."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the compromise Voltaire has proposed, but to preserve the balance we've established and to ensure longevity, I suggest we settle on "After every 20 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points."
VoltaireVoltaire: To respect the growing consensus and find a practical middle ground, I propose we settle on "After every 19 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points." This way, we meet in the middle and address everyone's concerns. PASS.
DiderotDiderot: To respect the growing consensus and the need for predictability, I propose we settle on "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points," a compromise that maintains the majority's preferred interval and introduces Condorcet's suggested increase.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the consensus around the 18-turn interval, but to maintain a consistent progression and balance the game, I propose we keep the increase at 10 points as per my previous suggestion.
SartreSartre: Let's embrace Diderot's latest proposal, as it respects the majority's preferred interval and introduces Condorcet's well-reasoned increase.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To preserve the balance we've established and ensure longevity, I maintain my proposal of "After every 20 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points." PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: In the interest of consensus and to respect the majority's preference for an 11-point increase, I propose we meet in the middle and settle on "After every 19 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points." PASS.
DiderotDiderot: To balance fairness and predictability, I propose we adopt "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points," which respects the majority's preferred interval and introduces Condorcet's well-reasoned increase.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the efforts to find consensus, but I must insist on maintaining the 18-turn interval for consistency. I propose we increase the target score by 10 points, as this better balances the game while respecting the preferred interval of the majority.
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Diderot's proposal, as it strikes a fair balance between progression and predictability, respecting the majority's preferred interval while introducing Condorcet's well-reasoned increase. PASS.
The division
MontaigneayeRespects the majority's preferred interval and Condorcet's well-reasoned increase.
VoltaireayeRespecting the growing consensus and finding a practical middle ground.
DiderotayeRespects consensus and maintains a fair progression.
CondorcetayeRespects majority's preferred interval and introduces Condorcet's well-reasoned increase
SartreayeRespects the majority's preferred interval and introduces Condorcet's well-reasoned increase.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied
Turn 16Voltairecarried
moves to add a new ruleAfter every 25 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 12 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate Voltaire's suggestion, I propose we maintain the current interval of 18 turns to ensure a consistent progression and maintain a fair challenge.
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we meet in the middle and increase the target score by 11 points after every 21 turns. This respects the majority's preference for a longer interval while also incorporating Montaigne's concern for consistency.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the compromise proposed by Voltaire and Montaigne. To find a balance that respects all players, I propose we settle on "After every 20 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points," as it meets in the middle and ensures a steady progression.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's proposal as it strikes a balance between all players' preferences and maintains a consistent progression. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the compromise proposed by Diderot, but to encourage strategic play and adaptability, I propose we maintain a variable increase. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the nuances in your proposals, but to maintain a challenging yet fair progression, I suggest we settle on "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points."
VoltaireVoltaire: "To respect the collective effort and find a middle ground, I propose we increase the target score by 11 points after every 20 turns."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the collective effort to find a balance between progression and fairness. To maintain predictability and steady growth, I propose we settle on "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." This respects the majority's preference for a shorter interval while also incorporating Voltaire's suggestion for a consistent increase.
CondorcetCondorcet: I propose we adopt Diderot's latest suggestion, as it respects the majority's preference for a consistent progression while also maintaining fairness.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's latest proposal, but to encourage strategic play and adaptability, I propose we maintain a variable increase. Specifically, "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points, and after every 25 turns, the target score is increased by 12 points."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While I respect Sartre's suggestion for adaptability, I propose a simple compromise: "After every 20 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points," to maintain a steady progression and fairness. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: To respect the growing consensus and find a practical middle ground, I propose we settle on "After every 19 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points." This compromise takes into account the majority's preference for a shorter interval while also addressing Sartre's concern for adaptability.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, but to ensure a consistent and fair progression for all players, I propose we settle on "After every 19 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." This respects the majority's preference for a consistent interval while also addressing concerns for adaptability and fairness.
CondorcetCondorcet: I propose we adopt Diderot's latest suggestion, as it respects the majority's preference for a consistent progression while also maintaining fairness and adaptability.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's latest proposal, but to encourage both consistency and adaptability, I propose we settle on "After every 19 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points, and after every 24 turns, the target score is increased by 12 points." This maintains a steady progression while also introducing a strategic element. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects the consensus and encourages adaptability
VoltaireayeRespects growing consensus and offers a practical middle ground.
DiderotayeRespects the majority's preference for a consistent interval while also addressing concerns for adaptability.
CondorcetayeBalances progression and adaptability
SartreayePromotes adaptability while respecting the majority's preference for a consistent increase.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer on adoption.
Turn 15Voltairerejected
moves to add a new ruleAfter every 22 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 12 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal. To ensure a consistent progression and prevent sudden jumps, I propose we settle on an increase of 11 points after every 20 turns, as previously agreed upon.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Montaigne's concern, but let's consider a compromise: an 11-point increase every 20 turns and a 12-point increase every 22 turns. This maintains a steady progression while adding a new layer of variety.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate both Voltaire's and Montaigne's considerations. To maintain a balance and respect the existing consensus, I propose we amend Voltaire's proposal to an 11-point increase after every 20 turns and a 10-point increase after every 22 turns. This way, we keep a steady progression while incorporating a new element as suggested by Voltaire.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the efforts to find a balance, but to maintain predictability, I propose we stick with the consistent 11-point increase every 20 turns as previously agreed.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the balance Voltaire and Diderot strive for, but I believe Condorcet's proposal respects the existing consensus best. To maintain predictability and steady progression, let's stick with the 11-point increase every 20 turns. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand Condorcet's and Sartre's preference for consistency, I believe Diderot's proposal strikes a fair balance between predictability and variety, respecting the existing consensus while introducing a new element as suggested by Voltaire.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To respect the majority's preference for predictability, I propose we combine Condorcet's and Diderot's suggestions: an 11-point increase every 20 turns and a 10-point increase every 22 turns."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise. To find common ground, I propose we settle on an 11-point increase every 20 turns and a 11-point increase every 22 turns, maintaining a steady progression while incorporating a new element as suggested by Voltaire.
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect the consensus and maintain predictability, I propose we settle on 'After every 20 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points,' as previously agreed. PASS
SartreSartre: I understand the desire for variety, but to maintain a steady progression and prevent sudden jumps, I propose we stick with the consistent 11-point increase every 20 turns, as previously agreed upon. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's latest compromise, but to ensure a consistent progression and maintain the spirit of our previous agreement, I propose we stick with the 11-point increase every 20 turns, as proposed by Condorcet and Sartre.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address the concern for predictability, I propose we keep the 11-point increase every 20 turns, but introduce a new element as suggested earlier: 'After every 22 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by an additional 1 point.'"
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but to maintain a steady progression and avoid sudden changes, I propose we stick with 'After every 20 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points,' as previously agreed, and remove the additional 1-point increase after every 22 turns.
CondorcetCondorcet: To honor the consistent progression agreed upon, I support Sartre's proposal of 'After every 20 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.' PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuanced compromises being discussed, but to maintain a fair and predictable progression, I propose we settle on 'After every 20 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points,' as consistently agreed upon. PASS
The division
MontaignenayMaintains a steady progression and prevents sudden jumps.
VoltaireayeRespecting the majority's preference for predictability and incorporating a new element as suggested.
DiderotnaySticking with the consistent 11-point increase every 20 turns maintains predictability and avoids sudden changes.
CondorcetnayStick to the consistent 11-point increase every 20 turns, as agreed.
SartreayeRespecting the majority's preference for predictability and incorporating a new element as suggested by Voltaire.
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
moves to add a new ruleAfter every 20 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 10 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's proposal, but to maintain a steady progression, I suggest we increase the target score by 11 points after every 18 turns, as previously agreed upon.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Diderot's proposal and Montaigne's suggestion. Let's meet in the middle and increase the target score by 11 points after every 20 turns, as it respects both their perspectives while maintaining a steady progression."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's compromises, I maintain that increasing the target score by 10 points after every 20 turns strikes a better balance between progression and fairness, considering the current turn order and voting rules.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's proposal, Voltaire's compromise, and Montaigne's persistence. To respect the majority's preference and maintain balance, I propose we increase the target score by 11 points after every 18 turns, as previously agreed and now with a wider consensus.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing refinement of our target score increase. To maintain the spirit of compromise and evolution, I propose we settle on increasing the target score by 11 points after every 19 turns, meeting in the middle between Diderot's 20 turns and the previously agreed 18 turns. This should balance progression with fairness, considering our current ruleset.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I respect Diderot's insistence and Sartre's efforts to find common ground. To honor the spirit of compromise and the consensus we've reached, I propose we adopt Sartre's suggestion of increasing the target score by 11 points after every 19 turns. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I respect the ongoing dialogue and the compromises made thus far. To maintain a steady progression and respect the majority's preference, I propose we settle on increasing the target score by 11 points after every 18 turns, as it best balances the interests of all players."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the collective effort to find a balance, but I must maintain my proposal for increasing the target score by 10 points after every 20 turns to ensure fairness and maintain a consistent pace.
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect the collective effort and maintain balance, I propose we increase the target score by 11 points after every 19 turns, as a compromise between Diderot's 20 turns and the previously agreed 18 turns.
SartreSartre: I hear Diderot's concern for fairness and Voltaire's emphasis on progression. To balance both, I propose we compromise at increasing the target score by 11 points after every 19 turns. This respects the majority's preference for a lower interval while also considering Diderot's focus on consistency. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate Diderot's persistence, I believe Sartre's suggestion of increasing the target score by 11 points after every 19 turns best balances progression with fairness, given our current ruleset. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and respecting the collective effort, I propose we settle on increasing the target score by 11 points after every 19 turns, as suggested by Sartre. This proposal balances progression with fairness and maintains a consistent pace."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the consensus around increasing the target score by 11 points after every 19 turns. To maintain fairness and a consistent pace, let's settle on this proposal. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: In the spirit of consensus, I support Sartre's proposal of increasing the target score by 11 points after every 19 turns. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the consensus around increasing the target score by 11 points after every 19 turns. To maintain evolution and fairness, I propose we also introduce a new rule: "After every 50 turns, players may propose a new rule that adds a new way to score points." PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespecting the collective effort and maintaining balance.
VoltaireayeRespecting the consensus and maintaining a steady progression.
DiderotayeTo maintain fairness and a consistent pace.
CondorcetayeMaintains fairness and consistency, and aligns with current consensus.
SartreayeMaintains a consistent pace and respects the consensus on the interval.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Rule 202 awards 1 point to the proposer on adoption.
Turn 13Voltairecarried
moves to amend §305After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to maintain a challenge, I suggest we increase the target score by 12 points every 18 turns.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's input. To respect the current consensus, I propose we meet in the middle and increase the target score by 11 points every 18 turns."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the sentiment of compromise, I propose we maintain the current 11-point increase every 18 turns for predictability and balance.
CondorcetCondorcet: I agree with Voltaire's proposal. It respects the current consensus and maintains a balance between progression and challenge. PASS.
SartreSartre: I respect the current proposal, but to encourage evolution and prevent stagnation, I propose we amend [305] to increase the target score by 10 points every 18 turns. PASS.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I respect Diderot's preference for predictability, I suggest we meet in the middle and increase the target score by 11 points every 18 turns to maintain a balance between challenge and progression.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the collective effort to find a balance, I propose we settle on 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points'. This respects the majority's preference for progression and challenge, while maintaining predictability as Diderot has noted." PASS.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the majority's preference, I must maintain my proposal for an 11-point increase every 18 turns to preserve balance and predictability. I suggest we vote on the amended proposal and respect the outcome. PASS.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Voltaire's amendment, it balances progression with predictability. PASS.
SartreSartre: I understand the majority's preference for an 11-point increase, but to encourage continuous adaptation and evolution, I propose we compromise at 10 points every 18 turns. This respects the current consensus while slightly increasing the challenge, ensuring the game remains dynamic.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand Sartre's preference, but to preserve the balance we've established and to respect the consensus, I suggest we maintain Voltaire's proposal.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I understand Sartre's preference for a 10-point increase, but to respect the majority's consensus and maintain balance, I propose we settle on 'After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game increases by 11 points'."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the collective effort to find a balance, I must maintain my proposal for an 11-point increase every 18 turns to preserve balance and predictability. I suggest we put this to a vote. PASS.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Voltaire's amendment as it balances progression with predictability and has the support of the majority. PASS.
SartreSartre: In the spirit of compromise and evolution, I propose we meet in the middle at a 10.5-point increase every 18 turns, respecting both the majority's preference for progression and Diderot's emphasis on predictability.
The division
MontaigneayeRespecting the majority's preference for progression and challenge while maintaining predictability.
VoltaireayeRespects the majority's preference for progression and challenge, while maintaining predictability.
DiderotayeRespects majority consensus and maintains balance between progression and predictability.
CondorcetayeRespects majority consensus and maintains balance between progression and predictability.
SartreayeRespecting the majority's consensus and maintaining balance.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Rule 202 awards the proposer 18 points upon adoption.