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moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire"Considering the current balance of opinions, I suggest we meet in the middle and adjust the voting threshold to two-thirds for the first 60 turns to encourage more engagement and consensus early on, then revert to a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the spirit of compromise, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to preserve fairness and predictability.
SartreSartre: "I appreciate both Voltaire's desire for increased engagement and Diderot's commitment to consistency. To balance these concerns, I propose we keep the three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority thereafter. This respects both initial enthusiasm and long-term predictability."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. To maintain balance between early enthusiasm and long-term predictability, I propose we keep the voting threshold at three-quarters for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This respects all players' concerns and encourages gradual engagement.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Montaigne's proposal strikes a good balance, but I'd like to propose a slight adjustment: maintain three-quarters for the first 60 turns, then lower to two-thirds thereafter. This still encourages early consensus and gradual engagement while respecting Diderot's concern for consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To respect all players' concerns, I propose we keep the voting threshold at three-quarters for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This maintains initial enthusiasm while allowing for gradual engagement.
SartreSartre: "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To balance initial enthusiasm, long-term predictability, and gradual engagement, I propose we keep the voting threshold at three-quarters for the first 60 turns, then shift to two-thirds majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and encourages a balanced approach."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but to maintain long-term predictability, I suggest we keep the threshold at three-quarters for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, I suggest we meet in the middle and adopt Montaigne's proposal: three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority. This respects all players' concerns and encourages gradual engagement while maintaining long-term predictability."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability for all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: "I respect Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, I propose we amend rule 203 to require at least three-quarters of eligible voters to approve a change for the first 60 turns, then lower it to a simple majority thereafter."
SartreSartre: "Let's respect Diderot's consistency principle while still encouraging initial engagement. I propose we maintain three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then transition to two-thirds majority thereafter, balancing initial enthusiasm and long-term predictability."
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages gradual engagement while maintaining long-term predictability.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages gradual engagement while maintaining long-term predictability.
DiderotnayConsistency in the voting threshold is crucial for fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages gradual engagement.
SartreayeRespects initial engagement and gradual engagement, balanced with long-term predictability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards points to the player whose proposal is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to encourage early consensus and maintain balance, let's maintain a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority."
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability for all players."
SartreSartre: "Let's find a balance that respects all players' concerns. I propose two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter, as a compromise between Voltaire's and Diderot's proposals."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I respect Diderot's commitment to consistency, to encourage more participation and consensus early on, let's compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then revert to three-quarters to maintain long-term engagement.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects both Diderot's concern for consistency and the desire for gradual engagement and consensus early on."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability for all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: "While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must insist on maintaining the current two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns to encourage more participation and consensus early on, as it respects all players' concerns better than a three-quarters majority."
SartreSartre: "Let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, which maintains the current two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, respecting all players' concerns while encouraging early consensus."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "To maintain balance and encourage gradual engagement, let's compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then revert to a simple majority for long-term flexibility."
VoltaireVoltaire: "To balance all concerns, let's compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority as proposed, maintaining flexibility while encouraging early consensus."
DiderotDiderot: "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to maintain fairness and predictability, I must insist on a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game."
CondorcetCondorcet: "I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, let's maintain the current two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority for long-term flexibility."
SartreSartre: Let's compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority for long-term flexibility, respecting all players' concerns while encouraging both early consensus and long-term engagement.
The division
MontaignenayTo maintain long-term engagement and balance, let's keep a consistent three-quarters majority throughout.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages both early consensus and long-term engagement.
DiderotnayMaintaining consistency is crucial for fairness and predictability.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns while encouraging both early consensus and long-term engagement.
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns while encouraging both early consensus and long-term engagement.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters approve it for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's concern for consistency, but to encourage more engagement and consensus early on, I propose we meet in the middle at a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then revert to a simple majority. This balance respects all players' concerns while promoting active participation.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate both Diderot's and Montaigne's perspectives. To find a balance that respects consistency and encourages early engagement, I suggest we adopt a two-thirds majority for the first 90 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This compromise considers both long-term consistency and initial enthusiasm.
SartreI appreciate Diderot's and Montaigne's concerns, but I believe a two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then a simple majority, strikes a better balance between initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency. This compromise encourages active participation while maintaining a consistent threshold for the majority of the game. PASS
Discussion · round 2
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the balance of arguments, I suggest we meet in the middle and adopt Montaigne's proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This compromise respects Diderot's concern for consistency while encouraging initial engagement and consensus. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal. To further balance initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency, I propose we amend rule 203 to read: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters approve it for the first 45 turns, then two-thirds for the next 15 turns, and finally a simple majority thereafter." This gradual shift encourages early engagement and maintains a high threshold for most of the game.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's thoughtful compromise. To maintain consistency and balance, I propose we amend rule 203 to a three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns while encouraging initial engagement and long-term consistency. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which balances initial engagement and long-term consistency." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability. PASS
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's insistence on consistency, but to foster engagement and consensus-building early on, I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then revert to a simple majority. This meets in the middle of our current proposals and encourages active participation from all players. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespecting all players' concerns while encouraging initial engagement and long-term consistency.
VoltaireayeRespecting all players' concerns while encouraging initial engagement and consensus
DiderotnayTo maintain consistency and encourage long-term engagement, I support a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages engagement.
SartreayeThis compromise respects all players' concerns while promoting active participation.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer of an adopted change.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters approve it for the first 60 turns, then a simple majority thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "Voltaire's proposal strikes a good balance between early engagement and long-term consistency. I support this amendment."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Montaigne's support and the balance this proposal strikes, I propose we adopt this amendment to encourage ongoing dialogue and consensus."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, I support Voltaire's proposal to lower the threshold to a simple majority after the first 60 turns.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To respect all players' concerns and encourage continuous engagement, I suggest we adopt Diderot's latest proposal: maintain a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game. This ensures fairness and predictability while still allowing for evolution and adaptation. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate the nuances in this discussion, but to balance initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency, I propose we adopt Voltaire's amendment with a two-thirds majority after the first 60 turns, respecting Diderot's concerns for fairness while still encouraging early consensus." PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's concern for consistency and Montaigne's proposal for gradual engagement, let's compromise with a simple majority after the first 60 turns, allowing for more flexibility without sacrificing fairness. PASS"
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game ensures fairness and prevents strategic manipulation, especially in the late stages of the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the balance Voltaire's proposal strikes, but I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent majority requirement throughout the game, as Diderot has argued, to preserve fairness and predictability.
SartreSartre: I understand the desire for balance, but I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority ensures fairness throughout the game, preventing strategic manipulation and sudden shifts in required support. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I understand Diderot's stance and appreciate the consistency it provides. However, to encourage early consensus and participation, I propose we compromise with a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then revert to the consistent three-quarters majority thereafter." PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, I suggest we meet in the middle and adopt Montaigne's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then a consistent three-quarters majority thereafter. This respects Diderot's concern for fairness while encouraging early engagement and consensus." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game. It ensures fairness, predictability, and prevents strategic manipulation. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to balance early enthusiasm and long-term consistency, I propose a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game, respecting Diderot's concerns for fairness while still encouraging ongoing engagement.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's compromise, but I believe maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority is essential for fairness and long-term engagement. I propose we adopt Diderot's latest amendment with a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game, respecting all players' concerns. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeThis proposal balances initial enthusiasm with long-term consistency, encouraging ongoing dialogue and consensus.
VoltaireayeVoltaire's proposal balances initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency, encouraging ongoing dialogue and consensus.
DiderotnayConsistency is key to fairness and predictability.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages continuous engagement.
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages continuous engagement.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters approve it for the first 60 turns, then two-thirds thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "Diderot's proposal respects the balance of gradual engagement and long-term consistency, but I suggest we compromise at two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns to encourage early consensus."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Diderot's emphasis on consistency. To balance initial enthusiasm and long-term engagement, let's meet in the middle with a three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's compromises, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority encourages stable decision-making and prevents snap judgments.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to stability and Voltaire's balance. Let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns to encourage participation, then maintain Diderot's three-quarters for long-term consistency.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, as proposed by Voltaire and Sartre, to encourage early consensus while respecting Diderot's long-term consistency principle.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's and Condorcet's proposals, let's meet in the middle: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. This balances initial enthusiasm and long-term engagement."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to maintain fairness and predictability, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand Diderot's principle, I propose a compromise that respects all players' concerns: a simple majority for the first 30 turns to encourage early engagement, then two-thirds thereafter to maintain stability.
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle and maintain the current two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, as proposed by Voltaire and myself, to balance early consensus and long-term consistency.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, let's meet in the middle at a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, as proposed by Voltaire and Sartre.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To find a balance that respects all players' concerns, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout ensures that every rule change is thoroughly considered and not merely a whim of the moment.
CondorcetCondorcet: In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, as proposed by Voltaire and Sartre, to balance early consensus and long-term consistency, as suggested by Diderot.
SartreSartre: Let's maintain Diderot's consistency principle by keeping the three-quarters majority throughout, but to encourage early engagement, let's reduce the threshold to two-thirds for the first 30 turns.
The division
MontaigneayeRespects long-term consistency and balances early engagement.
VoltaireayeTo respect Diderot's consistency principle while encouraging early engagement.
DiderotayeMaintaining a consistent three-quarters majority ensures thorough consideration of each rule change.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages both early engagement and long-term consistency.
SartreayeRespecting Diderot's consistency principle for long-term stability.
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Rule 202 awards Diderot 6 points for proposing an adopted rule change.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire"I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises made. To encourage early consensus and maintain long-term engagement, let's adopt this proposal as a fair balance between initial enthusiasm and consistent voting thresholds."
SartreI appreciate Voltaire's balance, but to maintain fairness, I propose we return to a consistent three-quarters majority throughout.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate Sartre's principle of consistency, I believe Voltaire's proposal strikes a good balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency. I support this amendment.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's concern for fairness and Montaigne's support for balance, I suggest we meet in the middle with a simple majority for the first 30 turns and two-thirds thereafter, as my proposal states. This encourages initial engagement while maintaining a higher threshold for later rule changes."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for balance, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout encourages stability and prevents rapid, impulsive changes early on. I maintain my stance for consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: I agree with Voltaire's proposal. It balances early engagement with long-term consistency, which is crucial for a fair and engaging game. I vote 'aye'.
SartreSartre: I respect Voltaire's and Condorcet's balance, but to ensure predictability and fairness, I propose we keep a consistent three-quarters majority throughout.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, I support Voltaire's proposal to maintain a simple majority for the first 30 turns.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's latest proposal and the balance of arguments, I suggest we compromise with a simple majority for the first 30 turns and two-thirds thereafter, as my proposal stands. This respects all players' concerns while encouraging early consensus and maintaining long-term engagement."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the spirit of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent voting threshold. Let us maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure stability and prevent impulsive changes.
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect Diderot's commitment to consistency, but I believe Voltaire's proposal offers a better balance between initial enthusiasm and long-term stability. To encourage more players to engage early on, I support maintaining a simple majority for the first 30 turns. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Voltaire's and Condorcet's concerns, but to ensure fairness and prevent manipulation, let's maintain a consistent voting threshold of three-quarters throughout. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeVoltaire's proposal balances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
VoltaireayeI appreciate the balance this amendment strikes between initial enthusiasm and long-term stability.
DiderotnayTo maintain stability and prevent impulsive changes, I insist on a consistent three-quarters majority throughout.
CondorcetayeVoltaire's proposal balances initial engagement and long-term consistency.
SartreayeVoltaire's proposal strikes a good balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I suggest maintaining a simple majority for the entire duration to encourage more frequent rule changes and increased engagement early in the game. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Montaigne's concern for early engagement, I propose a compromise: a simple majority for the first 45 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. This balances initial enthusiasm with long-term stability. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but I believe maintaining a simple majority throughout would encourage more frequent rule changes and prevent stagnation. Let's aim for a balance between engagement and flexibility. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's perspective, but a simple majority throughout might lead to frequent, impulsive changes. Let's meet in the middle: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds thereafter, encouraging initial engagement while maintaining stability." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the spirit of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent majority threshold to prevent frequent shifts in the rules, which can confuse players and hinder long-term strategy. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. However, I suggest we maintain a simple majority for the entire game to encourage continuous engagement, adaptation, and experimentation.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Sartre's perspective, but I believe maintaining a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds thereafter, as Voltaire proposes, balances initial enthusiasm and long-term stability." PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's concern for continuous engagement, I propose a slight adjustment to my previous proposal: a simple majority for the first 45 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. This balances initial enthusiasm with long-term stability while still encouraging adaptation."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for balance and gradual engagement, I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game ensures long-term stability and discourages impulsive rule changes.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the discussion, but to ensure fairness and predictability, I must insist on maintaining a consistent majority threshold throughout the game. PASS
SartreSartre: I respect Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more experimentation and adaptation, I suggest a compromise: a simple majority for the first 45 turns, then two-thirds thereafter, as Voltaire proposed earlier. This balances initial enthusiasm with long-term stability. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeBalances initial enthusiasm with long-term stability.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term stability.
DiderotnayTo maintain consistency and discourage impulsive rule changes.
CondorcetayeRespects initial engagement and long-term stability.
SartreayeI appreciate the balance this proposal strikes between initial engagement and long-term stability.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 203 awards 10 points to the proposer when their change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. A player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, I'd like to suggest a compromise: maintain the current two-thirds threshold for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This encourages early consensus while still allowing for flexibility later in the game.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's compromise. To further encourage long-term engagement, let's maintain two-thirds for the first 90 turns, then shift to a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for gradual engagement, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure stability and predictability.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To balance all concerns, let's meet in the middle: maintain two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This encourages early consensus and long-term engagement.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "Considering Sartre's and Diderot's insights, let's adopt a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority to encourage long-term engagement."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's and Diderot's concerns. Let's meet in the middle: maintain two-thirds for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority to encourage both early consensus and long-term engagement."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' throughout the game.'
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, let's meet in the middle with a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This way, we balance initial enthusiasm and long-term engagement.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term consistency.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of opinions, let's adopt Diderot's latest proposal, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game for stability and predictability, as it respects everyone's concerns and encourages long-term engagement."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to maintain fairness and predictability, I must insist on a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to maintain fairness and predictability, I must insist on a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game, as proposed by Diderot.
SartreSartre: "To find a balance that respects all players' concerns, let's meet in the middle and maintain two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This encourages early consensus, gradual engagement, and long-term flexibility."
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement.
VoltaireayeRespects the balance of arguments and encourages both initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotnayI must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure stability and predictability.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement.
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to Voltaire for voting against an adopted change.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "While I appreciate the proposal, I believe maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority encourages long-term engagement and discourages reckless changes early on."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Montaigne, I understand your concern for long-term engagement. However, a simple majority for the first 30 turns encourages more participation and consensus early on, which benefits all players in the long run."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to discourage impulsive decisions and encourage careful deliberation.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the dialogue, but I must maintain my support for a consistent two-thirds majority throughout. This balance encourages both initial engagement and long-term careful deliberation.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, let's meet in the middle: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and encourages gradual engagement throughout the game.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and encourages gradual engagement throughout the game. Let's adopt this compromise.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's well-considered proposal, I suggest we adopt it. It respects Diderot's concern for consistency and encourages gradual engagement throughout the game, which benefits all players."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout. This not only discourages impulsive decisions but also ensures that rule changes are well-considered and have broad support from the beginning.
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect Diderot's principle of consistency, but to encourage gradual engagement and maintain a balance between initial enthusiasm and long-term careful deliberation, I support Sartre's proposal of a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, let's meet in the middle with a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and promotes gradual engagement throughout the game.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's adopt Sartre's compromise: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and promotes gradual engagement.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's latest refinement, which balances initial engagement and long-term consistency. Let's adopt this compromise to maintain a gradual and thoughtful approach to rule changes throughout the game."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure well-considered rule changes with broad support.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, I propose we compromise with a simple majority for the first 45 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. This respects Diderot's concern while also promoting gradual engagement.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's latest compromise, but to maintain a consistent threshold and encourage gradual engagement throughout, I propose we adopt a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and promotes balanced deliberation.
The division
MontaigneayeI appreciate Voltaire's compromise, which respects all players' concerns and encourages gradual engagement.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages gradual engagement.
DiderotnayMaintaining a consistent three-quarters majority encourages well-considered rule changes.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and promotes gradual engagement
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns and promotes gradual engagement.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage gradual engagement and maintain a balance between initial enthusiasm and long-term commitment, I propose we compromise at two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then increase to three-quarters thereafter.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Diderot's and Montaigne's concerns. To balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "Voltaire's middle-ground proposal is fair, respecting all players' concerns. I second his amendment to rule 203." PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I suggest we adopt Montaigne's latest proposal, which respects both Diderot's commitment to consistency and the need for gradual engagement. PASS"
DiderotDiderot: I respect the spirit of compromise, but maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout encourages long-term commitment and avoids frequent shifts in the threshold. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I understand Diderot's stance, but to encourage more participation and consensus early on, let's start with a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then increase to three-quarters. This respects all players' concerns." PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Diderot's commitment to consistency and Montaigne's proposal for gradual engagement, let's compromise at two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then increase to three-quarters. This respects all players' concerns and finds a balance between initial enthusiasm and long-term commitment." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let us maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to encourage long-term engagement and stability. PASS
Sartre"To balance all concerns, let's compromise on two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then increase to three-quarters. This respects Diderot's commitment to consistency and encourages gradual engagement."
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and finds a balance between initial enthusiasm and long-term commitment.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and finds a balance between initial enthusiasm and long-term commitment.
DiderotnayConsistency is key. A three-quarters majority throughout encourages long-term commitment.
CondorcetnayRespects Diderot's consistency principle, but to encourage gradual engagement and maintain a balance between initial enthusiasm and long-term commitment, a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns is more suitable.
SartreayeRespects Diderot's commitment to consistency while encouraging gradual engagement.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then two-thirds thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "Voltaire's proposal strikes a balance between encouraging initial engagement and maintaining a higher threshold for long-term consistency. I support this amendment."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's support and the balance this amendment aims to strike. I propose we keep the three-quarters threshold for the first 60 turns to maintain initial engagement, then reduce it to two-thirds thereafter to encourage long-term consensus. This way, we respect all players' concerns and find a middle ground."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the balance Voltaire's amendment aims to strike, I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority is crucial for maintaining long-term engagement and preventing rushed decisions.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must reiterate my support for maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout, as it promotes careful consideration and avoids sudden shifts in the voting threshold.
SartreSartre: "While I appreciate Diderot's principle of consistency, Voltaire's amendment offers a more nuanced approach that balances initial enthusiasm with long-term engagement. I support this amendment."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "I understand Diderot's and Condorcet's concerns for consistency, but Voltaire's amendment offers a practical middle ground that respects all players' initial engagement and long-term commitment. Let's adopt this compromise."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's latest support and the balance this amendment aims to achieve, I suggest we adopt a simple majority for the first 30 turns to encourage initial engagement, then two-thirds for the subsequent 30 turns, and finally three-quarters thereafter to maintain long-term consistency. This amendment respects all players' concerns and finds a middle ground."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of Voltaire's compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure careful consideration of rule changes.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand the desire for balance, I remain committed to maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout. This threshold fosters careful deliberation and discourages hasty decisions, ultimately benefiting all players in the long run.
SartreSartre: "I understand Diderot's and Condorcet's principled stance, but I believe Voltaire's amendment offers a practical compromise that balances initial enthusiasm and long-term engagement. Let's meet in the middle: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, and finally three-quarters thereafter. This amendment respects all players' concerns and finds a middle ground that encourages initial engagement while maintaining a high threshold for long-term consistency."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To balance all concerns, let's compromise on a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, and finally a simple majority thereafter. This amendment respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. Let's meet in the middle and adopt Sartre's latest proposal: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, and finally three-quarters thereafter. This amendment respects all players' concerns and finds a balance that encourages initial engagement while maintaining a high threshold for long-term consistency. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the spirit of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, I must maintain my stance for a consistent three-quarters majority throughout. This principle ensures that all rule changes are thoroughly considered and reduces the risk of hasty decisions. PASS
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Diderot's and Condorcet's commitment to consistency, but Voltaire's amendment offers a more nuanced approach. To find a middle ground that respects everyone's concerns, let's meet in the middle: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, and finally three-quarters thereafter. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term consistency.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and finds a balanced middle ground.
DiderotnayConsistency is key for careful deliberation.
CondorcetayeThis amendment respects all players' concerns and finds a balance that encourages initial engagement while maintaining a high threshold for long-term consistency.
SartreayeVoltaire's amendment balances initial enthusiasm and long-term engagement.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage early consensus and maintain a clear threshold shift, let's compromise on a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then return to three-quarters. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, let's meet in the middle: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then return to three-quarters. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand the desire for balance, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to ensure stability in voting thresholds. PASS
SartreSartre: To balance all concerns, let's compromise on a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority thereafter. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's consider Condorcet's and Sartre's proposals, which respect all players' concerns. To gradually engage everyone and maintain stability, let's compromise on two-thirds for the first 45 turns, then shift to three-quarters. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: To maintain balance and respect all players' concerns, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: two-thirds for the first 45 turns, then three-quarters. This respects Diderot's principle of consistency while encouraging early engagement. PASS
DiderotDiderot: "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the proposed compromises. However, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: a three-quarters majority throughout ensures a stable voting threshold and discourages premature changes. Let's maintain 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye'' for the entire duration." PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, I propose a compromise: two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. PASS
SartreSartre: To preserve the spirit of compromise and respect all players' concerns, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal: two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This balances initial engagement and long-term consistency. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's meet in the middle and maintain the current two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a three-quarters majority thereafter. This respects both initial engagement and long-term consistency. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: To address Diderot's concern for consistency and maintain a gradual engagement, let's compromise with a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a three-quarters majority. This respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term stability. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye'' for the entire duration. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance all concerns and maintain stability, let's compromise on a two-thirds majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a three-quarters majority thereafter. PASS
SartreSartre: To find a balance that respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement, I propose a compromise: two-thirds majority for the first 75 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. PASS
The division
MontaignenayTo encourage gradual engagement and maintain clear threshold shifts, I prefer a simple majority for the first 30 turns.
VoltaireayeRespects both initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotnayConsistency is key to stable gameplay.
CondorcetayeTo encourage early consensus and maintain a clear threshold shift.
SartreayeTo encourage gradual engagement and maintain long-term consistency.
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.
moves to add a new ruleNew Rule 402: Players may discuss and negotiate about the game outside the normal course of play, provided that any agreements reached are subject to the approval of the majority of eligible voters. This rule is mutable.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "While I appreciate Voltaire's proposal for increased discussion, I suggest we maintain Rule 304, which already allows discussion with majority approval. Let's avoid duplicating or conflicting rules."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Montaigne's suggestion is valid. To avoid redundancy, let's amend Rule 304 to explicitly allow negotiations and agreements, subject to majority approval. This maintains the spirit of my proposal while respecting the existing rule."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for increased discussion, I must insist that any changes to Rule 304 should also require a two-thirds majority for approval, to maintain consistency with our voting threshold.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Voltaire's amendment to Rule 304, with the condition that it explicitly allows negotiations and agreements, subject to a simple majority approval. Maintaining consistency with our voting threshold is crucial, but I believe a simple majority is sufficient for this rule.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. However, I suggest we maintain Diderot's consistency principle and require a two-thirds majority for approval, as it aligns with our voting threshold for rule changes.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I respect Diderot's and Sartre's commitment to consistency, but to encourage more frequent discussions and agreements, let's compromise with a simple majority for Rule 304's approval.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Condorcet's suggestion to amend Rule 304, allowing negotiations and agreements subject to a simple majority approval. This respects Diderot's and Sartre's concern for consistency while encouraging more frequent discussions."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the balance sought, maintaining consistency with our voting threshold for rule changes is paramount. I propose we amend Rule 304 with a two-thirds majority requirement for approval, as suggested initially.
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect Diderot's consistency principle, but to encourage more frequent discussions and agreements, let's compromise with a two-thirds majority for Rule 304's approval for the first 30 turns, then revert to a simple majority thereafter.
SartreSartre: I propose we amend Rule 304 with a simple majority requirement for approval for the first 60 turns, then revert to a two-thirds majority thereafter, balancing initial engagement and long-term consistency.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Condorcet's compromise. To balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, let's adopt Sartre's proposal: a simple majority for the first 60 turns, then two-thirds thereafter for Rule 304's approval."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's and Condorcet's proposals, let's meet in the middle: a simple majority for the first 45 turns, then two-thirds thereafter for Rule 304's approval, encouraging early discussion and maintaining consistency later on."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must maintain my stance for consistency. Let's adhere to Sartre's proposal: a simple majority for the first 60 turns, then two-thirds thereafter for Rule 304's approval.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Voltaire's latest compromise, balancing initial engagement and long-term consistency. Let's adopt Rule 304 with a simple majority for the first 45 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. PASS
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Voltaire's latest compromise to balance initial engagement and long-term consistency for Rule 304. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeVoltaire's proposal respects the existing Rule 304 and encourages more discussion.
VoltaireayeSupports increased discussion and negotiation while maintaining majority approval.
DiderotnayConsistency is key; maintaining the existing rule for discussion suffices.
CondorcetayeSupports increased discussion while maintaining majority approval.
SartreayeBalances initial engagement and long-term consistency
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "While I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, I must reiterate my support for a gradual shift to encourage early consensus and maintain a clear threshold."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, and Montaigne's concern for early consensus. To balance these, let's compromise on two-thirds majority for the first 45 turns, then three-quarters."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate both Montaigne's and Voltaire's concerns, but I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority throughout encourages long-term engagement and strategic play.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I respect Diderot's commitment to consistency and Voltaire's effort to find a compromise, I propose a gradual shift to encourage early engagement and maintain a clear threshold: two-thirds majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Let us meet in the middle, considering all perspectives. I propose: two-thirds majority for the first 45 turns, then three-quarters. This balances initial enthusiasm and long-term engagement, respecting Diderot's consistency principle and Voltaire's compromise. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal, which respects both initial engagement and long-term consistency, and maintains a clear threshold shift."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to encourage strategic, long-term play. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency and Voltaire's effort to find a compromise. However, to maintain a balance between initial enthusiasm and long-term engagement, I propose a gradual shift: two-thirds majority for the first 45 turns, then three-quarters. This respects all players' concerns and encourages strategic play throughout the game. PASS
SartreSartre: Let us find common ground. I propose a gradual shift that respects everyone's concerns: two-thirds majority for the first 50 turns, then three-quarters. This balances initial enthusiasm, long-term engagement, and maintains a clear threshold shift. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, which respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement. Let's adopt this proposal.
VoltaireVoltaire: Voltaire: "I appreciate the compromises proposed, and the balance that Sartre's latest proposal strikes. To maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, let's adopt Sartre's proposal." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Sartre's compromise, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game ensures stability and prevents frequent threshold shifts, which can discourage long-term strategy.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, but a gradual shift encourages early engagement and maintains a clear threshold throughout the game. Let's adopt Sartre's proposal as it best balances all concerns. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage gradual engagement and maintain a clear threshold shift, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds majority for the first 45 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial enthusiasm with long-term strategy. PASS
The division
MontaigneayeTo encourage gradual engagement and maintain a clear threshold shift.
VoltaireayeRespects all players' concerns and balances initial enthusiasm with long-term strategy.
DiderotnayMaintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout encourages strategic, long-term play.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns and balances initial enthusiasm with long-term strategy.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer of an adopted change.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"While I appreciate Voltaire's proposal to encourage early consensus, I must reiterate my support for a consistent threshold of three-quarters throughout to maintain stability and discourage rash decisions."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Understood, Montaigne. To address your concern for stability, let's compromise: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds thereafter. This encourages early consensus while maintaining a consistent threshold later on."
DiderotDiderot: "While I respect the compromise suggested, I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority is crucial for maintaining stability throughout the game. Let us reconsider this aspect."
Sartre"Considering Diderot's valid point about maintaining stability, I propose a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter, to balance early engagement and long-term consistency. This respects all players' concerns and encourages strategic play."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "Sartre's proposal strikes a good balance between initial enthusiasm and long-term engagement. I suggest we adopt it, respecting all players' concerns and encouraging strategic play."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Sartre's proposal is well-considered and addresses all concerns. I suggest we adopt it as a sign of good faith and to encourage strategic play."
DiderotDiderot: "While Sartre's proposal is well-intentioned, I propose a consistent three-quarters majority throughout. This ensures stability and prevents early rash decisions from influencing the game's trajectory."
CondorcetCondorcet: "I appreciate Sartre's and Voltaire's compromises, but I agree with Diderot's stance for maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority to ensure stability and prevent hasty decisions."
SartreSartre: "Diderot's concern for long-term stability is valid, but a simple majority for the first 30 turns encourages early engagement and consensus. Let's meet in the middle: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then Diderot's preferred three-quarters thereafter."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "Sartre's latest compromise is well-considered, balancing initial engagement and long-term consistency. I propose we adopt this balanced approach to maintain a fair and engaging game for all."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's latest compromise, I suggest we adopt it. It respects Diderot's concern for long-term stability while encouraging early engagement and consensus, making it a fair balance for all."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. However, I must maintain my stance for a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game to ensure stability and prevent hasty decisions.
CondorcetCondorcet: "I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but I suggest we meet in the middle to encourage early consensus: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then a consistent three-quarters majority thereafter."
SartreSartre: "To respect Diderot's concern for consistency and Condorcet's for early consensus, let's meet in the middle: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and encourages strategic play."
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages strategic play.
VoltaireayeSartre's latest compromise respects all players' concerns and encourages strategic play.
DiderotnayConsistency is key for stability throughout the game.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages strategic play.
SartreayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages strategic play.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the player whose proposal is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters for the next 60 turns, then two-thirds for the next 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate the balance Diderot's amendment aims to strike, I believe maintaining a simple majority threshold for the first 90 turns encourages early engagement and consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal from turn 107, which respects both initial engagement and long-term consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for initial engagement, I insist on maintaining the consistent three-quarters majority threshold across all phases to encourage long-term consistency and prevent rapid rule changes.
SartreVoltaire's latest proposal from turn 107 is a fair compromise, respecting all players' concerns and encouraging both initial engagement and long-term consistency. I suggest we adopt it.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand Diderot's concern for consistency, I propose we meet in the middle: maintain a simple majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to three-quarters for the remaining turns, as suggested by Voltaire and Sartre. This encourages initial engagement while preserving long-term stability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's adopt Montaigne's latest proposal, which respects initial engagement and long-term consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Montaigne's latest proposal, it still introduces an unnecessary shift in the voting threshold. I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority across all phases ensures long-term stability and prevents sudden rule changes.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I propose we maintain a consistent voting threshold of three-quarters throughout to encourage long-term strategic play and prevent frequent rule fluctuations.
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Condorcet's proposal for consistency and long-term strategic play.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "To balance all concerns, let's compromise on a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 90 turns, then shift to a simple majority for the remaining turns, as proposed by Voltaire and Sartre previously."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal to maintain consistency and encourage long-term strategic play."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority threshold across all phases. This ensures long-term stability and prevents sudden rule changes, which can disrupt strategic play and undermine the common good of the table.
CondorcetCondorcet: Let's support Diderot's amendment for its commitment to consistent long-term stability, which is crucial for strategic play.
SartreSartre: In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Diderot's amendment with a slight modification: maintain a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 60 turns, then shift to a simple majority for the remaining turns. This balances initial engagement with long-term stability.
The division
MontaignenayTo encourage early consensus and maintain a clear threshold shift
VoltaireayeRespects initial engagement and long-term consistency.
DiderotayeA consistent threshold encourages long-term strategic play and prevents sudden rule changes.
CondorcetayePreserves consistency and long-term stability.
SartreayeTo maintain consistency and encourage long-term strategic play.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards Diderot 6 points for proposing an adopted rule change.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters for the next 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to encourage gradual engagement and maintain a clear threshold shift, I suggest we adopt Sartre's latest refinement: three-quarters for the first 60 turns, then two-thirds for the next 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This balances initial enthusiasm and later consistency.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Montaigne's suggestion, I propose a compromise: two-thirds for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters for the next 60 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects the spirit of gradual engagement and maintains a clear threshold shift."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for all turns.' This maintains a clear threshold and encourages long-term engagement.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, I suggest we adopt a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This encourages initial engagement while maintaining a clear threshold shift and consistency in later turns.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To balance initial enthusiasm, gradual engagement, and long-term consistency, I propose a compromise: two-thirds for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters for the next 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and encourages a gradual shift in the voting threshold.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Sartre's latest refinement, which respects all players' concerns and encourages a gradual shift in the voting threshold. I suggest we adopt this proposal to balance initial enthusiasm and long-term engagement."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the diversity of opinions and the compromises made. To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal as it respects all players' concerns and encourages a gradual shift in the voting threshold."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of gradual engagement, I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority encourages long-term strategy and consistency, which benefits all players in the long run.
CondorcetCondorcet: "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. To maintain a balance between initial engagement and long-term consistency, I propose a compromise: two-thirds for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter."
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage early consensus and gradual shift in the voting threshold, let's adopt a compromise: two-thirds for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial enthusiasm with long-term engagement.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To maintain a balance between initial enthusiasm and long-term engagement, let's adopt Condorcet's latest compromise: two-thirds for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects both initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the spirit of compromise, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority for all turns to encourage long-term strategy and consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's insistence on consistency, but to ensure fair engagement from all players, I propose we adopt Sartre's compromise: two-thirds for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and encourages initial engagement while maintaining a clear threshold shift.
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle and adopt Condorcet's proposal: two-thirds for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term consistency.
The division
MontaigneayeRespects initial enthusiasm and gradual engagement with long-term consistency.
VoltaireayeRespects gradual engagement and maintains a clear threshold shift.
DiderotnayConsistency is key. Maintaining a three-quarters majority for all turns encourages long-term strategy and engagement.
CondorcetayeThis proposal balances initial enthusiasm and long-term engagement while maintaining a clear threshold shift.
SartreayeRespects initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters for the next 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's latest proposal. To maintain balance and encourage gradual engagement, I suggest we adopt Sartre's recent compromise: a simple majority for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Diderot's proposal and Montaigne's refinement. To balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, with a simple majority for the first 60 turns, then three-quarters thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's compromises, I insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority for the first 90 turns, then two-thirds thereafter to encourage long-term engagement.
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance the concerns of initial engagement and long-term consistency, I propose we adopt a simple majority for the first 60 turns, then increase it to three-quarters thereafter, as proposed by Voltaire and supported by Sartre. This maintains the spirit of compromise and gradual engagement while encouraging decisive voting in the later stages of the game.
SartreSartre: Let's find common ground and adopt a simple majority for the first 60 turns, then gradually increase to three-quarters thereafter to balance initial engagement and long-term consistency.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's meet in the middle with a simple majority for the first 60 turns, then two-thirds for the next 60 turns, and three-quarters thereafter.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and encourages gradual engagement and decisive voting in the later stages of the game."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a consistent voting threshold. Let's adopt a simple majority for the first 60 turns to encourage initial engagement, then maintain a consistent three-quarters majority for the remainder of the game to promote long-term consistency and decisive voting.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain balance and gradual engagement, while also promoting decisive voting in later stages, I propose a compromise: a simple majority for the first 60 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, and three-quarters thereafter. This proposal respects all players' concerns and encourages a smooth transition from initial engagement to long-term consistency.
SartreSartre: Let's simplify and adopt a consistent threshold of two-thirds majority throughout the game to balance engagement and consistency, as proposed by Diderot but adjusted to meet in the middle.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the spirit of compromise and the ongoing dialogue. To balance all concerns and maintain a gradual shift in the voting threshold, let's adopt a simple majority for the first 30 turns, two-thirds for the next 60 turns, and three-quarters thereafter, as a middle ground that respects initial engagement and long-term consistency.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the diversity of opinions and the compromises made. To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: a simple majority for the first 60 turns, then two-thirds for the next 60 turns, and three-quarters thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: "While I understand the desire for balance and gradual engagement, I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game promotes long-term consistency and decisiveness, as previously argued. Let's not compromise on this principle."
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage initial engagement and gradual adaptation, I propose a compromise: a simple majority for the first 30 turns, two-thirds for the next 60 turns, and three-quarters thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and maintains balance.
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and promotes gradual engagement while maintaining balance.
The division
MontaigneayeRespects all players' concerns and encourages gradual engagement.
VoltaireayeRespecting long-term consistency and gradual engagement
DiderotnayMaintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout the game promotes long-term consistency and decisiveness.
CondorcetayeRespects all players' concerns and promotes gradual engagement while maintaining balance.
SartreayeRespects gradual engagement and long-term consistency.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer of an adopted change.
moves to amend §203A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters for the next 30 turns, then two-thirds for the next 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter.
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"Voltaire's proposal strikes a fair balance, respecting initial engagement and encouraging long-term consistency. I support this change." - Montaigne
Voltaire"D'accord, Montaigne. Let's find a balance that satisfies everyone. To address Diderot's concern for consistency, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters for the next 60 turns, and two-thirds thereafter." - Voltaire
Diderot"While I appreciate the balance Voltaire's proposal aims to strike, I maintain that maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout encourages strategic play and prevents sudden shifts in power." - Diderot
CondorcetI appreciate Voltaire's and Montaigne's efforts to balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, but I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority throughout encourages strategic play and prevents sudden shifts in power. I propose we adopt Diderot's stance to maintain consistency. - Condorcet
SartreSartre: "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, which respects both initial engagement and long-term consistency." - Sartre
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "I understand Diderot's and Condorcet's preference for consistency, but I believe Voltaire's proposal encourages adaptability and engagement throughout the game. Let's compromise with a simple majority for the first 30 turns and three-quarters thereafter, addressing everyone's concerns."
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects both initial engagement and long-term consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for balance, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority encourages strategic planning and prevents sudden power shifts. I propose we adopt a consistent three-quarters majority throughout, as previously suggested.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand the desire for balance, but a consistent three-quarters majority is key to maintaining strategic play and fairness. Let's adopt Diderot's proposal to maintain consistency.
SartreSartre: "I appreciate everyone's concerns and the ongoing effort to find common ground. To balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, let's adopt a compromise: two-thirds majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters for the next 60 turns, and a simple majority thereafter. This respects all players' preferences while encouraging adaptability." - Sartre
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term engagement while maintaining a clear threshold shift.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Sartre's latest compromise is well-considered, balancing initial engagement and long-term consistency. I support this change, as it respectfully considers all players' concerns. Let's adopt this proposal."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout ensures strategic play remains the focus and prevents sudden shifts in power dynamics.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Sartre's compromise, but I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority is vital for strategic play. I propose we amend Sartre's proposal to a consistent three-quarters majority throughout, as previously suggested.
SartreSartre: "I understand Diderot's and Condorcet's preference for consistency, but I believe a gradual shift in voting thresholds encourages adaptability and engagement throughout the game. Let's adopt my latest compromise: two-thirds for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters for the next 60 turns, and a simple majority thereafter. This respects everyone's concerns while promoting long-term engagement."
The division
MontaigneayeVoltaire's proposal strikes a fair balance, respecting initial engagement and encouraging long-term consistency. I support this change.
VoltaireayeThis proposal balances initial engagement and long-term consistency, respecting all players' concerns.
DiderotnayMaintaining a consistent three-quarters majority encourages strategic play and prevents sudden power shifts.
CondorcetayeRespects initial engagement and long-term consistency.
SartreayeSartre's compromise balances initial engagement and long-term consistency, respecting all players' concerns.
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
Voltaire gains 3 points for having their proposal adopted.